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06-15-2017 , 03:37 AM
when does day 2 start today/tomorrow?
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06-15-2017 , 04:06 AM
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when does day 2 start today/tomorrow?
1:00 restart
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06-16-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Donk Dunc
Chris - I just wanted to say thanks again for putting on the 2-7 triple draw today, and congratulations on the turn out. The event was well run and the dealers knew what they were doing more than the players did!

Please do it again next year and if it is a day or two before the WSOP event, I'll definitely be back. Phamous Poker Series GOLIATH 2017


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I second this! Really enjoyed it. Will definitely be back for this next year!
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06-18-2017 , 01:24 AM
Bros, here are some things that have happened tonight in event #67 in the first 7 levels

1) not taking the next big blind from a table
2) people exposing their hands and not doing anything when people complain
3) smoking vapors at the table
4) people constantly talking about their hands
5) people le calling the dealer stupid
Etc.....
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06-18-2017 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Noz22
Bros, here are some things that have happened tonight in event #67 in the first 7 levels

1) not taking the next big blind from a table
2) people exposing their hands and not doing anything when people complain
3) smoking vapors at the table
4) people constantly talking about their hands
5) people le calling the dealer stupid
Etc.....
FYI...by definition you don't "smoke vapors". It's a vaporizer, it doesn't burn, thus it isn't smoked.
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06-18-2017 , 11:39 PM
Well, I was thinking of playing the $700 tournament next week, but if things are this bad, I don't think I will.
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06-18-2017 , 11:40 PM
Can someone here tell me how many runners the 500K had Saturday
(flight A)?

Last edited by mrofman; 06-18-2017 at 11:55 PM.
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06-19-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Can someone here tell me how many runners the 500K had Saturday
(flight A)?
96 w 18 advancing
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06-21-2017 , 05:06 PM
Want to add my thanks for the well run 2-7 event. One dealer (Bill?) dealt something like 12 hours straight including 3 at the final table. He was flawless and good humored the whole way. After he staggered out they alternated between 2 dealers with no experience but good attitudes.

Could you please post the result sheets for the event (55). Or direct me to it.

Plan on playing more of your events next year. Thanks Again.
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06-23-2017 , 10:39 AM
Played in 3 events in this series and I don't think I'll be back. Poorly run tournaments, some of the dealers are mediocre and need the floor to resolve things every 20 hands. We had 1 working tournament clock for around 20 tables. I could list more things but I just don't care anymore. The low turnouts are another problem, but I think that's just the result of running crappy tournaments and people no longer interested in playing there.
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06-24-2017 , 01:29 AM
Are they hitting all their guarantees?
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06-26-2017 , 04:58 AM
What time are the $700 $500k guarantee tournaments going to end each day?

Thinking of playing but start time is 2 or 3pm..... won't that go until like 1am? Seems ridiculous
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06-26-2017 , 10:51 AM
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What time are the $700 $500k guarantee tournaments going to end each day?

Thinking of playing but start time is 2 or 3pm..... won't that go until like 1am? Seems ridiculous
Starts at 3p bag at 320a, restart Tuesday 3p
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06-26-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Starts at 3p bag at 320a, restart Tuesday 3p
restart 2pm, sorry for the mix up
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06-26-2017 , 01:30 PM
Thanks. Out of curiosity - What is the reasoning for starting so late?
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06-26-2017 , 01:41 PM
How many did they get yesterday?
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06-26-2017 , 01:53 PM
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Thanks. Out of curiosity - What is the reasoning for starting so late?
It was beyond my control
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06-26-2017 , 01:54 PM
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How many did they get yesterday?
199 for flight A
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06-26-2017 , 02:15 PM
I'm guessing late start times is to try to get any bustos from tournaments like wsop monster.... but my god 3pm to 3am is torture
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06-26-2017 , 05:19 PM
Played the $700 yesterday after busting the $50k in a day mtt. I enjoyed myself. One Asian lady went off on a dealer regarding the placement of the dealer button. They got into a bit of a shouting match. The dealer could have handled it better, but I imagine it's got to be challenging navigating argumentative poker experts and inexperienced recs when your deciding upon a tone to take. The floor was called over and handled it perfectly. Firing another bullet in the $700 today. Good luck y'all.
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06-27-2017 , 04:14 AM
Played $700 day 1b today. I'm sorry but most of the complaints here are true and not exaggerated. Had a dealer who was unbelievably slow. There's no way this dealer was auditioned or trained. He messed up bets and pots left and right. A table with him probably got half the hands other tables got.

Also, it's just awful to have a big field tournament start at 3pm. Goes until 3am.

Another thing is we got no dinner break. I missed like half a level trying to get my dinner.

Pros - tournament structure was good (liked starting stack depth). $700 entry is good inbetween for those who can't afford 1ks.

But please work on some of those things
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06-28-2017 , 12:06 AM
Chris,

I'm thinking about flying there next week and am interested in the $400 bigO 125k guarantee.

I notice on the structure sheet it says "Management reserves the right to cancel, change or modify the Tournament in part, or in whole, without notice"

What exactly does this mean? Can PH reneg on the guarantee if they can see it wont meet the numbers?
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06-28-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Chris,

I'm thinking about flying there next week and am interested in the $400 bigO 125k guarantee.

I notice on the structure sheet it says "Management reserves the right to cancel, change or modify the Tournament in part, or in whole, without notice"

What exactly does this mean? Can PH reneg on the guarantee if they can see it wont meet the numbers?
All events around the country always reserve the right to modify, cancel, without notice. That said I can't think of a circumstance that would exist to pull a guarantee once a tournament started.
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06-30-2017 , 02:40 PM
My impressions after playing the Main Event this year.

1) Overall, it was ok, and probably better than in years past, and honestly, a little better than I expected.

2) Turnout was a bit disappointing for an event with this size guarantee and structure. You made the guarantee, but at the end of your last "standard" flight (D), you were still a couple hundred entries short and needed lots of people to enter the graveyard shift flight. I don't get why you had so many flights. The room was half empty the entire time. Having a packed room with lots of chaos and tons of alternates is not really an ideal thing either, but neither is having flights which end at sunrise. You have plenty of capacity, so I don't get why you spread it out so much.

I believe some of the uninspiring turnout had to do with your scheduling. There doesn't seem to be any reason why you decided to go head to head with the Venetian 3500. That event cost nearly twice as much, had 2 fewer starting flights and got nearly as many entries as your event. That should tell you something. There doesn't appear to be anything really compelling going on this weekend at this price point. Why not have it then? Or why not just have it the same timeframe as last year when it was a huge success?

Speaking of pricepoint... i'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind raising the buy-in and rake this year. While there isn't a huge difference between 1650 and 2000, I think there is enough of a psychological difference that you lost some entries. Last year’s main event had the same guarantee, cost 350 less, and got near DOUBLE the entries. You made a ton more money on the event last year. Scheduling had a lot to do with it, but I don’t think scheduling alone accounts for such a drastic difference in interest.

3) The registration process continues to be borderline idiotic. People have complained about it here for earlier tournaments and its doesn’t seem like you are doing anything about it. I late registered (about 12:30) and played nearly half a level at a table with 5 people at it (as sixth joined us with a couple minutes to go before break). Meanwhile, you’re opening up new tables around us. Next door there was a table with 4 players. And everywhere around us, players are complaining and getting really annoyed that they are playing short handed. There’s absolutely no excuse for this occurring. I asked the floor and was told “Well, some players would complain if they late register and are not sat immediately.” Yes, poker players will complain about just about anything, but I have literally never heard a player make that sort of complaint, especially when the alternative is playing 5-handed for half a level when most tables are 9-10 handed. And you shouldn’t be opening individual new tables solely for late registrants either in any case. Players who come late and register together should not have a high likelihood of being sat at the same table. I don’t understand why this continues to be an issue at PH. Registration should be something that is pretty straightforward and when it’s not, players get annoyed.

4) Day 1B had roughly 20 tables to start and it appeared you were short on dealers. While I’m sure some of this is out of your control, it still seems to be an indication of ill-preparedness. I was shocked at how low the turnout for 1B was, but still, it’s your Main Event. If the room is packed and there’s a line out the door and your short-staffed, that’s one thing. But the room was 75% empty at the time.

5) Speaking of dealers, I thought they were an improvement this year. Some were even excellent. I do feel like the overall dealer quality at PH is worse than some other venues, but its not as bad as it was a couple years ago. Some dealers are certainly not very good, but I think when players are already agitated by something… like the registration process, or lighting (I have no issue with it, but it doesn’t seem like anything has actually been done in this area), or whatever, then dealer mistakes or general poor quality suddenly become much more noticeable and annoying.

6) In the category of things largely out of your control.. each of the last three years, there has been some sort of dance competition/convention for little girls in the convention center during the series. This year, a particular player lost his cool and got in a verbal and physical confrontation with another player, just as all these dancers were coming out of the convention center. This led to one of their mothers getting into a verbal confrontation with this player. Now, I think security handled the player situation as well as possible, and the mother’s reaction was pretty hypocritical. But it’s understandable, given what the player did in front of her daughter. It can reasonably be asked… why is an event for children being held in a Vegas casino, never mind PH which is not exactly known for its upscale environment? But that being said, I think there are things you can do logistically to separate the series area from the walkway area between the convention center and escalators. You could probably put up some sort of curtain. And at least during the Main event, you had tons of space to use towards the back of the room and didn’t need to be filling tables up front.

7) It'll be interesting to see how may players buy-in for 6 BB last second today. While I would never do this, in reality, you are not all that far from the money. I think its too close to allow this. Depending on seat assignment, a player may be able to coast to a cash. Its your Main Event. It should be about poker, not talking advantage of loopholes in your structure.
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07-01-2017 , 04:26 AM
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I believe some of the uninspiring turnout had to do with your scheduling. There doesn't seem to be any reason why you decided to go head to head with the Venetian 3500. That event cost nearly twice as much, had 2 fewer starting flights and got nearly as many entries as your event. That should tell you something. There doesn't appear to be anything really compelling going on this weekend at this price point. Why not have it then? Or why not just have it the same timeframe as last year when it was a huge success?

Speaking of pricepoint... i'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind raising the buy-in and rake this year. While there isn't a huge difference between 1650 and 2000, I think there is enough of a psychological difference that you lost some entries. Last year’s main event had the same guarantee, cost 350 less, and got near DOUBLE the entries. You made a ton more money on the event last year. Scheduling had a lot to do with it, but I don’t think scheduling alone accounts for such a drastic difference in interest.
I think word has gotten around as to how bad these tournaments are. I heard several people at the WSOP events talking about it. It's the same old story with the issues you mentioned, the terrible lighting, the crappy chips that are all the same color. It all points to PHo being too cheap and too indifferent to fix things.
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