This is completely wrong.

Yeah, there are "only so many elite players"...and they are all in town trying to win money and bracelets.

This thread is making my head hurt.

Mine too! What % of the field in a WSOP 1k do you think qualifies as excellent or better? What % in a Bellagio 1k?


There were 4k players in the 1k seniors. There will be 90 or so in the 50k 8game. If anyone thinks the 8game is easier to cash than he senior event giant lulz.

Lots of weird **** kicking around in this thread.

A. How many players you have to outlast to get down to 10% of the field has no impact on your odds against outlasting them.

B. In two tournaments with same relative number of skilled players (say one out of ten is a seasoned pro) bigger field means the risk of starting at a table with an overrepresentation of strong players is smaller, but with a sample of ten you're never going to have a perfect "normal" distribution at one specific table.

C. The structure modifies the skill effect (LDO). Extreme example: In a ten player tournament where each player starts with one chip, the damaging effect of playing against Phil Ivey is much smaller compared to a tournament where everybody starts with 100,000 chips.

OP doesn't appear to understand the concept of a BR (if he did it's unlikely he would be asking questions about "the toughness of the field"). Having $1,000 is not being rolled for a $1,000 MTT; having $50k - $100k is.

If OP wants to give himself a better of playing the ME for his $1k, adding a few $100s and winning 3 consecutive even chance roulette (or craps) bets will serve him much better than navigating a big field low buy-in WSOP MTT. Also, this way there will be no W2 mess to deal with.

You have good players and you have these guys in 1k WSOPs. They aren't playing 1k Bellagios.

I played the seniors event for the first time and was stunned by the plays I saw. There were lots of people like me who were just wanting that first WSOP experience and I must admit I picked the seniors event to avoid running into a lot of you guys and/or the pros. There were lots of pros in the event but luckily they weren't at my tables.

I'd heard about the bad play in the cheaper events but nothing can prepare you for what you'll see. Lots of players went out in the first level and it wasn't because they were trying to chip up early. Well, some may have been but the ones I saw left us shaking our heads with their terrible play.

I think it is best to be on time for the $1000 events to take advantage. Later in the day, the play was much better although not nearly as aggressive as I would expect an open event to be.

Happy to say I cashed although just barely. So I'm one for one.

Nice!

Damn, now I'm really pissed I missed it. I couldn't miss work because they needed coverage in case someone had a major problem. Nobody did. >grrrr<

Your experience is substantially different than when I played it a couple years ago. I had a tough nitty table, just like one would expect, but I could catch any hands.

It's either Tony Hachem (******) or Tony G (legend). If it was Hachem, can you please tell me you knocked him out?

Wasn't either of them.

I realized the Tony I was thinking of was Tony Poulis, and then I realized that's a soccer manager. So I dunno.

Any one with luck this year at WSOP? I will post my result after I play on July 1st.

played in the $1k NLHE event. Thought the field was incredibly soft for most of my time there (second to last table I was at where I lost 2/3 of my stack was tough). Finished in 83rd.

Well, thanks guys for all your help and comments.

I just got back from my very first WSOP and my very first $1000 buy-in. My highest buy-in was <$300 previously.

There were 3221 entrants. The game was tough. Maybe it was just my table and my position. I had a Euro young gun directly on my left. He's been min-raising from all spots. He's been also 3-betting me light all the time. So, I had to pick my spots wisely with such a shallow stack.

I had to go all in at lvl 1 which I absolutely hated. I had AK and just tried to squeeze with a call and a LP re-raise. LP called and turned up AcKc. He had a freeroll by on the turn with 2 clubs on the board. My heart was really pounding with 1 card to come and I had to dodge a club.

Luckily I made it. I continued to chip up slowly and steadily. Actually I had to go all in 3 times in the first 4 lvls. The 3000 starting chips was just a little too short as expected.

I was never moved and this is the only time I wished I got moved. I hated my spot acting before the young Euro guy (he had a stack of $500 Euro, and bundle of $100 USD, so obviously a Euro pro).

Finally, young Euro pro's AK got crushed by David "Bakes" Baker's 99 all in (who won the $10K HORSE this year.) That left Euro short and he was quickly eliminated.

Then it was smooth sailing for me into about 1am when we made the money.

I went back to work on day 2 at 1pm to join the other 264 players. I had never seen AA once in 11 hrs on day 1. Luckily, I got AK quite a few times, KK a couple times. Trip once. Flop a straight. I finally got my AA on day 2 and doubled up. Then this questionable hand came up and please feel free to discuss it at the strategy forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...illan-1218392/

I made it way past 100 but still long way from $10K (#36). So, I couldn't parlay my earnings into the $10K ME. Guess, I just had to wait till next year. At least I made the money and can decide on $1K or $1.5K event next year.

Yada -

I played one 1500 and one 1000 this year. The 1500 was full of limpers and passive players and was easy to play.

My 1K table had two bracelet winners and at least one if not two other young pros (all to my left) where I had to nit up and play super, super tight.

Other than the $500, don't expect it to be any harder.

MDM