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Only idiotic if you don't understand simple logic. Of course, players who re-enter BSF tourneys may have incentive to do also sorts of underhanded things with their chips. However, players who are near the end of day one of non BSF tourneys also have incentives to do all sorts of underhanded things with their chips. And there are many, many more of these players than there are those who re-buy into BSF after making day two.

If your real concern is about chip security, collusion, etc, then you should be bringing up the inherent dangers of any re-entry format, and lobbying TDs to implement strategies to prevent cheating in these.

Instead, you pick one re-entry format to have a vendetta against, for lord only knows what particular reason.. probably some personal thing you have with the folks who introduced the format. Your argument is weak, not because it isn't true, but because it isn't relevant. The numbers of players who take advantage of BSF, bagging bonuses or not, is quite small, according to all the data I have seen.

And by the way, this stuff about chip dumping is way overblown. Does it ever happen? I'm sure it does, but I don't think it is an epidemic. You know how hard it is to chip dump without someone noticing something fishy? Never mind the likelihood of getting on a table with a "friend" at the end of day one, having them agree to cheat, and winding up with the right combination of hands to allow you to do this. Of all the forms of cheating in poker, chip dumping seems to be one of the least worrisome.

Like you would know ....

Well, I guess you're right. I don't know. It must take a world-class cheater to have such an astute opinion about cheating as you do.

I get what you're saying about reentry without BSF, but I find it highly unlikely that those players are dumping to friends or anything else collusive. If they are so short they don't want to bag (or surrender) a short stack, they are playing wild and crazy at the end to either double up a time or 3, or go broke trying. While such behavior seems to offend some purists, it is certainly not collusive, or cheating by any definition.

BSF without a bagging bonus causes the same problem, only more so. You bag a short stack one day, and the next try you have to get to a higher total, or it's the same as busting. Every incentive to play crazy near the end.

But BSF with a bagging bonus definitely can put people in the position to behave collusively, and have a huge EV edge by doing so. As such, I'm against this format as well.

Cheers, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

I'm opposed to bagging bonuses if they come out of the prizepool. Same thing with chip leader bonuses, etc. And if you think bagging bonuses significantly increase the risk of cheating in BSF, then by all means, do not have any bagging bonuses. I will not shed a tear.

And I don't even care if they got rid of BSF since it would never occur to me to double my investment in a tournament when I don't have to. I don't think I am alone in that viewpoint since so few people ever take advantage of BSF (The only statistic I have seen is from Matt Savage in the 2015 Aria WPT500where allegedly 10 people took advantage of BSF out several thousand entries.). If the prevalence of those using BSF has drastically increased, I'm open to hearing about it and may change my mind.

But harping on the BSF format as a security risk seems misplaced. The point is, no matter what re-entry format there is, at some point in the tourney, there will be some number of players for whom getting rid of their chips becomes advantageous. And some percentage of those players will choose to cheat. People who are concerned about this should advocate for heavy punishments for those who get caught. That will do more to curtail the problem than strongly advocating against one re-entry format over another.

Anyone else playing the 100k today?

Maybe Alen Kessler is since he busted out of O8

The Chainsaw? haha I'll be looking for him then.

Just look for this guy

It says he still has 8.7k chips after day 1.

Woahhhh... stop the madness

AK be like "talk to the hand!"

"Dealer, how dare you look away from me when I'm speaking!"

"Oh dealer, I have a question... why am I such a structure nit?"

Anyone play in the 1st two flights of the $150 $100K guarantee event today? Number of entrants?

No but I'm playing the 7pm one

They said the first 2 flights today had 550 and 450.

I played 1A

Unsure if the tourney board was incorrect - It said 394 entrants for 1A - unsure about the others.

IMO, pretty soft field, although I was card dead all day.

I thought the tourney was run decent and most dealers seemed to be competent... atleast the ones that dealt to me, which is refreshing considering other series, such as the WSOP can sometimes throw in brand new dealers that do not know what they are doing.

My only complaint about playing here are the chips.

Denominations are in small font... The 25s and 100s look almost identical - 100s are Bluish Green where 25s are Green, yet black chips are worth 5,000?

Unsure why others in the thread are complaining about blind structures for these events. I personally do not want to put in 12+ hour days playing poker so that we can hit all the blind levels. The tourney played fast at the end of the day... but I'm okay with it.

For example, level 14 cost you around 10,000 chips per orbit.

Yea I got those numbers from a dealer so he probably was off. 1c had 275.

Have only played one event over there so far, but it was the triple-draw mix. Given that most dealers likely don't have a lot of experience with those games, I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the general level of competence displayed by the dealers rotating throughout the day...

So I just looked online again and their 200k gtd ($200bi) is now 100k gtd (150bi). Will confirm when I reg

I will blast them if they tried this.

Nah, its 200k