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Old 12-22-2012, 05:21 PM   #1
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Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

Dates are online, June 1st - July 4th
http://www.goldennugget.com/lasvegas...okerseries.asp

I really enjoyed the 2012 Series (I had a blast playing the Badugi and 8-game Mix), the venue is great, the structures are amazing and the Wi-Fi is free...

I just hope they don't raise the rake again ! Can't wait for the final schedule.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:23 PM   #2
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

The pic of Howard is a little off-putting. Guess most of the Nugget's target audience doesn't know or care.

Either way, the series should be fun
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:13 PM   #3
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

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The pic of Howard is a little off-putting. Guess most of the Nugget's target audience doesn't know or care.
This. They had those pics last year when they could have been considered controversial. This year, it's probably spilled over into bad taste.

Either way, I popped in a couple of times this year (2012), but numbers weren't all that great and I never actually played an event. I played at WSOP / DSE / Wynn / Binions, but not here. Perhaps lower rake will pull in better numbers?
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:36 PM   #4
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

Only played the main and imo it started off great with an awesome "early" structure.

However, after the dinner break they started skipping key levels and when I asked the Tournament Director about it he really didn't have a good answer.

As for the other tournaments - well, the crowds were pretty poor since there were tournaments going on everywhere basically.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:36 AM   #5
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Only played the main and imo it started off great with an awesome "early" structure.

However, after the dinner break they started skipping key levels and when I asked the Tournament Director about it he really didn't have a good answer.

As for the other tournaments - well, the crowds were pretty poor since there were tournaments going on everywhere basically.
Are you saying they skipped levels printed on a structure sheet? Or just levels you thought should be there?
I'd raise hell if they changed from a printed structure.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:47 PM   #6
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

"As for the other tournaments - well, the crowds were pretty poor since there were tournaments going on everywhere basically."


I think that the WSOP daily deepestacks (especially the 2pm) is really pulling many of the players from the other tournament series. They get tons of runners with big prize pools (no matter what your opinion is of the structure). The 2pm would regularly get over 1000 entries from the second week to the sixth week of the WSOP. I think competing tourneys will have to come up with some good ideas to lure back these players.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:08 AM   #7
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Are you saying they skipped levels printed on a structure sheet? Or just levels you thought should be there?
I'd raise hell if they changed from a printed structure.

Played this at the last minute and they followed the structure that was on their sheet.

However, if I remember correctly they started skipping levels that didn't make sense at all(especially for a main event)

It went from 300-600 to 500-1000 to 800-1600.

Totally ridiculous for a $1090 main event.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:48 PM   #8
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"As for the other tournaments - well, the crowds were pretty poor since there were tournaments going on everywhere basically."


I think that the WSOP daily deepestacks (especially the 2pm) is really pulling many of the players from the other tournament series. They get tons of runners with big prize pools (no matter what your opinion is of the structure). The 2pm would regularly get over 1000 entries from the second week to the sixth week of the WSOP. I think competing tourneys will have to come up with some good ideas to lure back these players.

^^this

I think the Venetian and Wynn could gain some traction if they post some guarantees. Just the mention of guarantees increases the field size, and they may need to look at more events with about $350 buy-in. If playing a $1K event may as well play in $1K to $2500 events at the Rio.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:14 PM   #9
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This schedule is amazing though. So great to see so many non-NLHE tourneys. Are there other good series that have mixed games, 2-7td, badugi, etc?
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:51 PM   #10
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

link to schedule

http://www.goldennugget.com/lasvegas/pdf/gps.pdf
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:38 PM   #11
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Played this at the last minute and they followed the structure that was on their sheet.

However, if I remember correctly they started skipping levels that didn't make sense at all(especially for a main event)

It went from 300-600 to 500-1000 to 800-1600.

Totally ridiculous for a $1090 main event.
I did not remember it this way so I had to look it up. It went 300-600, 400-800. 500-1000 before skipping to 800-1600. They also skipped 1200-2400. But, you did start with 25000 starting chips and the rounds were one hour long from the start. 177 people entered and first paid a little over 46k. I thought overall it was the best tournament I played last year. Everyone can form their own conclusions, but if a majority of the stronger players are elsewhere that improves the chances for those who are merely hobbyists like me.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:04 PM   #12
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

I wish they would throw in a larger buy-in for each discipline. Maybe like a 350 or 400 BI rather than just day after day of small BI events. I also think they would do well to put the non-HE events later in the day (maybe 2) so they could get some of the Noon bustouts jumping into these events. I went down 1 day and the NLHE event had 60ish while the concurrent PLO only had like 25-30.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:35 PM   #13
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

They have to set themselves apart from the other series though. If they add a $350 or $400 event you are competing with the Venetian.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:10 PM   #14
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

they have an open face chinese tourney

thats pretty cool. dont think they had one last year. maybe im wrong.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:22 PM   #15
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Re: Grand Poker Series 2013 (Golden Nugget, Las Vegas)

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I wish they would throw in a larger buy-in for each discipline. Maybe like a 350 or 400 BI rather than just day after day of small BI events. I also think they would do well to put the non-HE events later in the day (maybe 2) so they could get some of the Noon bustouts jumping into these events. I went down 1 day and the NLHE event had 60ish while the concurrent PLO only had like 25-30.
I would like to see non-NLHE MTTs start at ~2:00 too. That would make late registration until ~4:00.

They did try having larger buyins ($550) for each discipline a couple years ago, but they haven't tried since...likely b/c it scared lots of people away.


Last year, some of the non-NLHE events were running on the same day as their WSOP counterpart. As an example, the WSOP $1500 PLO8 ran same day as a $200 PLO8 at the Golden Nugget on June 26. If Golden Nugget pushed it back 1-2 days, it would have gotten a lot more runners (the same people who played the WSOP event would play the Golden Nugget one).

I remember emailing the Golden Nugget TD about the MTT series last year with this problem. They didn't want to change it either, citing that "we're not competing with those higher buyin MTTs" even though the non-NLHE player pool is small and they would play the event the next day...

Also, the fact that GN released the schedule before WSOP announced their schedule further cements their line of thinking (assuming it's the same TD).

Some side notes:
1. It looks like with past Venetian Deep Stack Series I & II this year, they may be introducing 11AM (limit MTTs) & 3PM (PLO/PLO8) MTTs for non-NLHE games. Hopefully, they'll try to utilize this spot and continue to add many non-NLHE MTTs.
2. Wynn and Binion's could also provide some competition. At least they try to compliment the WSOP schedule instead of compete. In fact, Binion's changed a 6-max NLHE to PLO8 the day before the $1500 WSOP PLO8 event b/c players were asking last year.


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they have an open face chinese tourney

thats pretty cool. dont think they had one last year. maybe im wrong.
Open Face Chinese tourneys are new to the poker MTT world. I think 2013 PCA was the first, with LAPC being 2nd. It's good that they're going to run one. Hopefully, others will too.
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