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Old 03-05-2012, 07:06 PM   #46
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Re: CHICAGO POKER CLASSIC ALTERS RULES MID SERIES?

This seems pretty clear cut to me. If they published 17-32 HU gets 5 points then not awarding points for it amounts to a broken contract. End of argument. I don't see how you would lose if you sought legal action.

If they're going to take prize money out for the staff I think a 1 % tip is more than fair. I mean wtf. You have a 25 % rake on the turbos, 20 % on the event 1 and the same rake for re-entries, 17 % on event 2, etc.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:28 PM   #47
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Hey Shane you should Consider asking jose and Ryan for some kind of chop
Now that Jose is on dinner break. Isn't there one more event to be played as well?
Sorry to see them screw use over like this but best of luck
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:38 PM   #48
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Hey Shane you should Consider asking jose and Ryan for some kind of chop
Now that Jose is on dinner break. Isn't there one more event to be played as well?
Sorry to see them screw use over like this but best of luck
Today was the last event. I considered talking to Ryan and Jose about it but ultimately it's not their responsibility. It's the Chicago Poker Classic's responsibility to honor the rules they published themselves.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #49
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I took 34th in the first event and was shown the tip box 2 times and the women paying me out told me the dealers only get paid 4 dollars a hour so tips are appreciated..
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:27 PM   #50
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Today was the last event. I considered talking to Ryan and Jose about it but ultimately it's not their responsibility. It's the Chicago Poker Classic's responsibility to honor the rules they published themselves.
Your only option if Caesars doesn't do the right thing is to take it to the Indiana Gaming Commission.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:27 PM   #51
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Ah I was backing Jose for this and didn't even know they denied Will the points he deserved. Confirmed ridiculous, but at least you ended up winning the $50k that was pretty much yours to win (don't mean to rip on Jose, he did a great job all series, but it really shouldn't have been that close if they just gave Will the points he deserved).
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:45 PM   #52
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Your only option if Caesars doesn't do the right thing is to take it to the Indiana Gaming Commission.
States right on the points rules pdf that the prize money will be paid out at the discretion of managment. So im not sure anything can be done
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:57 PM   #53
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I think this thread underscores that it's a brave new world for TDs regarding their tournaments. If you do a good job (and by and large, these TDs did a good job), you will be commended. Most of the feedback about this series has been very good, and I agree with that positive feedback, by and large.
I'd say the feedback has been largely negative.
The aggressive enforcement and penalties of exposed cards in early rounds really turned off recreational players.
The payout based on unique players in day 1a + day 1b was an outside-the-box shift not well known before the tournament and, also, greatly confused the recreational player.
The cut-off times for registrations and late entrants were done by seat-of-the-pants.

Overall, pretty poor experience due, in large part, to TDs.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #54
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they should never change the rules mid-series. chicago floor was very stubborn and didnt care what the players thought.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:15 PM   #55
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The problem is that none of the others in the heads up event bubble were awarded points either. Are you saying that all of those plsyers in the third round should have been awarded points?

If so, why are you the only one complaining.

I believe Chris tryba lost out on the million dollar freeroll last year when he finished 9th at the ft of a wsopc ring event that paid 8 spots but was listed as awarding points to the ft.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:26 PM   #56
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The problem is that none of the others in the heads up event bubble were awarded points either. Are you saying that all of those plsyers in the third round should have been awarded points?

If so, why are you the only one complaining.

I believe Chris tryba lost out on the million dollar freeroll last year when he finished 9th at the ft of a wsopc ring event that paid 8 spots but was listed as awarding points to the ft.

Likely that none of the others that got 17th-32nd had as much riding on their points result as the OP.


Also, not sure what Tryba has to do with this matter... they are two different incidents, and "two wrongs don't make a right."
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:29 PM   #57
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The problem is that none of the others in the heads up event bubble were awarded points either. Are you saying that all of those plsyers in the third round should have been awarded points?

If so, why are you the only one complaining.

I believe Chris tryba lost out on the million dollar freeroll last year when he finished 9th at the ft of a wsopc ring event that paid 8 spots but was listed as awarding points to the ft.
It was all players that lost in the 4th round that should have received points. As for why are the other players not complaining? I don't know any of the other 15 players that lost that round and I'm assuming that the ramifications for not being rewarded the points in all of their cases were insignificant. Meaning this points race was paid out to 1st place only, if William would not have won the other two events these 5 points would not have mattered.

I received confirmation tonight that William indeed would have won the points race should he have been awarded the 5 points. We are currently seeking out our legal options.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:33 PM   #58
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Ah, so you're saying the points contest is winner take all. That changes things considerably.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:44 PM   #59
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Can someone cut and paste the actual wording of the points description of the heads up event
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:33 AM   #60
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Heads Up
Placement Points
1 25
2 21
3-4 17
5-8 13
9-16 9
17-32 5


Compared to the other points awarded saying:
Regular Events:
1 25
2 21
3 18
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Cash 2

Turbo Events:
1 12.5
2 10.5
3 9
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Cash 1



They made it very clear.
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