I just got back from playing in the $500 today... I'm not usually one to bitch and usually I don't have to when I play at Parx but I think the following needs to be addressed.

I guess it was around the time when the levels were 600-1200... Our table was 6 handed (I'm guessing we were the only table at the time that was 6 handed). Our table had a ton of chips between the 6 players... I would say if not over a million pretty close to it. Anyways a woman who just bought in was assigned to our table....walks over... looks around... sees Justin Liberto (who at the time probably had around 200K) a dude wearing a white Harley Leather Jacket (who I didn't recognize but had close to if not more than 300K) and the rest of the table was sitting on stack sizes of around or above 100K. She goes on to say "oh no I'm not sitting here", begins to ask the floor if she can sit somewhere else (mentions Justin's name during the conversation) then ultimately ends up back at the cage and gets a refund.

I understand after people buy-in and before they are dealt a hand...a personal emergency or something along those lines might happen. Understood and I'm sure that's why the refund policy is in place. But does looking at your table and seeing a recognizable pro/pros and other big stacks fall under the refund policy? When we called the floor over to ask why she was allowed to do what she did... They told us there's a refund policy in place but she wouldn't be allowed to buy-in again tonight but thought she would be able to do so tomorrow. On top of this being a ridiculous ruling (IMO) ...As a starting stack, wouldn't she want a lot of chips at the table? What does she want to go to a table with all small/avg stacks?

I think this is both unfair to the recognizable pros who shouldn't have their success used against them by letting players get refunds and also unfair to every recreational player who I'm sure would like to know that if they don't like the seat/table they are assigned to due to players who are better then they are that they can just be refunded.

If this is out of line and this is something that Parx allows then I apologize. Everything else at the tournament went perfect like it usually does at Parx.

Just as a sidenote, I started a separate thread because I am hoping that players that are not attending the Parx Big Stax might be able to chime in that also might have come across this type of situation in the past.

We have the same policy at our casino.

As a tournament director I would allow her to receive a refund, but she would not be allowed to register for that tournament that night, but if it was a multi-flight tournament, she could enter a different flight.

this is pretty absurd

This is not the policy at Parx. It was a mistake by the staff. Won't happen again. It's ridiculous to think anyone can receive a refund if they have an unfavorable table draw.

Totally agree with isuxatpokerbad. ABSURD! I say that at every table I show up to .

Matt, I would like to request my tbl tomorrow NOT have any Supastars like YOU, that young Jedi Joe McHeehan, Trevor Detter, Justin Liberto, Phil Hellmuth, Lee Childs, Mike Summers, Alex Rocha, Jamie Kersetter, Mike Marder, Nancy Martin, Pierre Deissler, Joey Spillane and all members of TeamKITTEN. Thanks

Ok, disregard Pierre, Trevor, Joe and Lee. I like talking to them. Plus, Pierre's a fish

But she was allowed to come back and play today? Shouldn't she have also been banned from days 1B and 1C?

I agree, she should have been banned. that's UNFAIR if she did play again.

So basically, you just HAD to find a negative thing to say about Parx and draw attention to it.

Had she quietly walked over, saw her table, looked at her phone and exclaimed, "Oh, I have an emergency! I have to leave!" (Like the pukes who roam the room during table breaks when they notice they're in the BB), THEN she would have gotten her refund, you would have nothing to complain about, the floor guys wouldn't get reprimanded for keeping a loyal reg happy by sticking to their refund policy (regardless of reason), and this thread would never be started, correct?

Well, that's what she gets for being outspoken. What goes through her head comes out of her mouth.

Since you're curious...she was on the fence about buying in again at the 800-1600 lvl (not 600-1200) being it was so late in the tourney, but she knew she couldn't play 1B or 1C and it would be her last shot. Seeing her table with the stack sizes and having played with some of them earlier, she would have ZERO FOLD EQUITY and she knew it would be lighting her buy-in on fire, and decided to take that money to the cash game to win a few pairs of shoes.

(Get it now, Pierre?)

Also, the name "Justin" was never mentioned in the conversation since she doesn't know who he is and wouldn't be able to pick him out of line up.

I know this, because I'm her.


Sorry Matt...next time I'll shut up and fake a stomach ache.

yes you just said you didn't want to play on the table given. that's absurd, the refund is absurd, this is a shame and shouldn't be tolerated. you just said you thought you had no fold equity so you did this based on a poker decision. shame on you

certainly should not be allowed to register in this mtt again on a different day

You act as if I was looking for something wrong...You're the one that induced this thread. Read my original post... I have never had one complaint about Parx... Ever... But I think this is something that needed to be brought up.

What you did was ridiculous and you looked directly at Justin (who at the time wasn't even the chip leader at the table), then everyone else's stack and started speaking to the floor (If I misheard something I apologize but thats moot).....Sticking to the refund policy? I would love to see the rule book that says if a player is not happy with their seat/table draw they can be issued a refund. Not sure what the whole floor keeping the regular happy part is about. The floor apologized to the entire table numerous times because they said the cage had no right to give you a refund. They explained at the time that the cage should have come to them first before doing so and they wouldn't have allowed it. On top of that you act as if others at the table weren't "regulars" who kept calling the floor over to talk about what just happened. I would think they are considering the floor was on a first name basis with any player who made a comment.

Very outspoken.... How old are you early 50's? Would of thought it was a 12 year old who was picked on the uncool kickball team and refused to play. You're the one that made a scene. You could have quietly walked over and walked away and this thread would never exist because no one would have known you were actually supposed to be sitting at our table. But I'm glad it did happen because by you saying next time i'll fake a stomach ache should influence Parx to make future Big Stax events nonrefundable.

Just by judging the way you speak and think in your post, any table you sat at, would've been "lighting" your money on fire.

Lol donkaments never fail to amuse me.

can we go on a date sometime, although I would like a refund if I don't like the steak

What you did was extremely unethical. If you walked through the room BEFORE buying in and decide too many big stacks, field too tough, that is fine. But you dont get to buyin then unreg if you get a bad seat or table.

Unethical angleshooting players like you lead to ironclad no refund policies which then punish players with legit emergencies. Stop griping at OP and look in the mirror.

This lady doesn't seem too familiar with what constitutes cheating in poker:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65...me-20k-799069/

As a recreational player I would love to sit at a fable like the one described by the OP. Sometimes in poker you walk into the lion's den with a steak tied to your neck. Eventually in the tournament you will run into big stacks and great players. I just try to adapt and survive. The thought of getting a refund would never cross my mind. I just missed winning a seat in the satellite before the 300. Next time if you don't like the table draw let me know I'll play.

Here's another from this angleshooter....

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...ealer-1005339/