Cuz u run bad

TAB,

Do you know about when we can expect the chip counts/structures to be posted for the rest of the events?

I tried going from the WPO but I'm particularly interested in the 1k 6 max and there wasn't one (that high) in the WPO.

thx

Event 21$1,000 Buy-In + $90 Entry
(One day tournament)No Limit Hold’em – 6 Max
Sat, April 24 – 11AM
Level Ante Blinds
1st Level - 25 - 50
2nd Level - 50 - 100
3rd Level 75 - 150
4rd Level - 100 - 200
5th Level 25 150 - 300
6th Level 50 200 - 400
7th Level 75 300 - 600
8th Level 75 400 - 800
9th Level 100 500 - 1000
10th Level 200 600 - 1200
11th Level 200 800 - 1600
12th Level 300 1000 - 2000
13th Level 300 1200 - 2400
14th Level 400 1500 - 3000
15th Level 400 2000 - 4000
16th Level 500 3000 - 6000
17th Level 500 4000 - 8,000
18th Level 1000 5000 - 10,000
19th Level 2000 6,000 - 12,000
20th Level 2000 8,000 - 16,000
21st and above By Director
General Rules
Players will start with 15,000 in tournament chips.
Each level will last fifty(50) minutes.

THX!!!

4rd Level - 100 - 200
TRUE 2p2 style!! lulz

it looks good to me As much as everyone loves the deep stacks and slow structures you have put together, there always needs to be a balance...and some of those recent complaints are justified as many of these tourneys are running much longer than they should... and stop listening to Chainsaweqsque comments

I hate to nitpick but this really needs a 2500 5000 level; a 50% jump that late is not a good idea.

LOL....who didn't know this was coming.... Allen, it's a $500 buy-in tourney...let it go...spend your energy/currency on some other event.

lol...I've done it again!

It skips from 2k 4 k to 3k 6k at the higher buyins as well.....

I know a lot of players want to get their moneys worth but I would rather see no 75 150 and add in the 2500-5k. The complaints about taking too long are most likely from those who did not make the FT..I would prefer if it moves quickly before that for a smaller buyin

+1

More play deeper. It astounds me that when the money really matters (i.e. final table) a lot of these events become shove fests/card catching. Take out a level or two earlier and add them in later. Maybe extend the levels at the final tables to an hour.

Frankly with 25k stacks I'd like to see the 25/50 level removed and replaced by a later level.

+2

waiting for TFT to chime in and explain to these people why jumping early levels is not a good idea

I know the Todd Terry argument but I don't feel its valid for 300-$500 donkaments of which there are hundreds to play each year. Even many casual players don't want to come back and bubble or mincash for only a couple hundred profit on day 2 of these events.

The point is to be able to still play poker at the final two tables. Maybe jumping an early level isn't the best way, but this surely isn't a problem with no solution.

Hey TAB, just got word from my backer that I'll be in the high roller.

When should I call?

Hey TAB,

What is the structure for the 4/17 4 pm 500+60 survivor event? I've never played one of these before. Is this the first time Borgata is offereing a survivor event as part of an "Open"?

tomorrow will be fine.

40 min levels...solid.

Agree. Thats why we went with lot of 1 day'ers.

Wow, free rooms plus stealthmunk's dead money for the high roller, awesome.

Tab runs the best-structured tournaments at every buy-in level in the world. Now they've apparently gotten too good and people are complaining that they take too long.

To me, live tournaments are/should be about playing postflop poker, getting into the heads of your opponents, absorbing all available information and making quality decisions. The later the tournament turns into a coinflipping contest (which inevitably happens in all tournaments), the better. If you want a $300-$500 tournament that gets shortstacked quickly, play online, you can multitable them all day long.

Additionally, one of the reasons the Borgata consistently outdraws its local opposition is most of their customers love the deepstacked structures they offer. People want to get their money's worth.

Won't argue the first point....but my suggestion relates to the lack of play nearing the FT.

Having the avg stack of 9BB at the FT with 8 left and a difference of 80k (as there was in the DS Event #1 in BWO) between 1st and 8th is a real shame. Just not sure playing 500BB deep in Level 1 is necessary at the expense of the FT scenario described above.

First, I agree that Tab consistently runs GREAT tournaments. I don't think anyone was requesting a tourney that gets shortstacked quickly. I was trying to suggest how to have the tournaments run approx the same amount of time but still allow for some play at the final two tables.

I believe what bwslim69 was referring to was the first tourney of the winter open. I also played down to the final 3 tables and at that point it had pretty much turned into a shovefest. I realize that the tourney I'm referring to may ended up that way because of the extremely larger than expected field. This is not a criticism of how Tab run's his tourney, but isn't the goal to always improve (if possible)?

A few points:

1. **** happens sometimes that causes a structure to break down. I just played in a WPT event that had a pretty good structure (for a WPT event, for any other event it would be considered an amazing structure) but the average stack got out of whack late because we played for hours on the money bubble (going from 13 to 12) and the short stacks just kept winning all-ins.

2. I was once at a WSOP FT where I was in 5th place out of 9 coming in and had 15 BBs. First was $540K or so. That's the pretty much inevitable nature of tournament poker, short stacks with huge money at stake.

3. I'm assuming event #1 of the WPO lasted a very, very long time. It's just not possible to run a fantastically structured $300 buy-in event -- it would take too long.

4. Many tournaments that have larger average stacks at final tables are crapshoots early in the tournament, like the old Super Tuesday on PokerStars (which a bunch of us complained about and they finally fixed). Extreme example: if 100 people sign up for a tournament, you tell 90 of those people that they've been eliminated and give the remaining 10 a 10x starting stack, you'll have a very big average stack at the final table, but the final table has been determined by a process having nothing to do with poker skill.