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Old 07-27-2017, 12:50 PM   #26
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Re: 2017 Winstar River Series...

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Not really arguing, but just a genuine question, because I do not know - In what way do you guys think another WPT would be superior to PNIA? I am far from an expert, but this summer's WPT, for instance, had only a $200,000 guarantee on the $125 NL vs the $300,000 guarantee on the PNIA $125. I was under the impression that Choctaw was running all of the non-main event PNIA/WPT events anyway, unlike WSOPC, which the WSOPC actually runs all the events for. Is that correct?
Choctaw dropped the guarantee back to $200K because it missed in the PNIA and it would have missed this time too. Choctaw runs all the events with Jimmy Sommerfeld as their TD, the wsopc just sets the buyins and structures and tells them their events have to run 12 rings in 12 days.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:05 PM   #27
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3. WSOP Circuit Main in November (New this year, but will be huge)
Huge? More so than the other WSOP?
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:08 AM   #28
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Huge? More so than the other WSOP?
I would think pretty similar numbers, ~1500 in main.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:36 PM   #29
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Where are the rakes posted for the River Series? When I see no rake posted on a tournament flyer, it normally means high enough to be embarrassing. Nothing makes me NOT want to attend a tournament more than flyers missing entry fee breakdowns.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:36 PM   #30
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Where are the rakes posted for the River Series? When I see no rake posted on a tournament flyer, it normally means high enough to be embarrassing. Nothing makes me NOT want to attend a tournament more than flyers missing entry fee breakdowns.
Maybe they are "juice free". But I agree with you about if they aren't disclosed they are usually high.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:35 PM   #31
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Anyone have a link to the mega satellite schedule?
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:36 PM   #32
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correction on the $275 Super Sat that is on Saturday, it is at 12 PM.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:46 AM   #33
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Anyone have a link to the mega satellite schedule?
Schedule and structures are up on their website. I found it interesting that the main is paying 12%. If I am reading that right you are in the money if you make day 2. I like this, but it could make for long day 1s especially on Saturday/Sunday.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:15 PM   #34
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Where are the rakes posted for the River Series? When I see no rake posted on a tournament flyer, it normally means high enough to be embarrassing. Nothing makes me NOT want to attend a tournament more than flyers missing entry fee breakdowns.
Agree that the information should be readily available. In the past the rake has actually been lower than most comparable tournaments though.

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Schedule and structures are up on their website. I found it interesting that the main is paying 12%. If I am reading that right you are in the money if you make day 2. I like this, but it could make for long day 1s especially on Saturday/Sunday.
This has been the case since at least 2008 and in all those years, they played to 10% instead of 12% so the day 1s should be a bit shorter this year than in years past.

I like it as well, but lots of people don't like it since it means that each day plays a different length of time. Obv it's kind of annoying to, say, make 1500-3000 blinds and bust, and another flight ends at 1200-2400, but it's also annoying to survive Day 1A with a small stack, and then have to skip 1B and 1C without any guarantee of making money.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:07 AM   #35
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Re: 2017 Winstar River Series...

1st mega had 305 runners paid 61 + 8. ended right before 6pm at 1.5k/3k/300 level.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:14 AM   #36
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1st mega had 305 runners paid 61 + 8. ended right before 6pm at 1.5k/3k/300 level.
I hate to miss these. The megas for the River have to be some of the best value in any tournament nationwide. The level of play is as bad as you will ever see in a $500+ tournament and the added seats take it over the top. Hoping to get away and play in at least one of these.
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I hate to miss these. The megas for the River have to be some of the best value in any tournament nationwide. The level of play is as bad as you will ever see in a $500+ tournament and the added seats take it over the top. Hoping to get away and play in at least one of these.
agreed about the add value. There are some horrendous plays being made. I managed to grind my short stack into money when people that had 40k plus just donk off chips when they dont need to play a hand to make the money.
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Would everyone's guess of orser of size for field size on main event starting days from largest to smallest be Saturday, Sunday, and Friday?
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Would everyone's guess of orser of size for field size on main event starting days from largest to smallest be Saturday, Sunday, and Friday?
Last year's order was Sunday, Saturday, Friday if I remember correctly.
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Yeah, Sun > Sat > Fri. The fact that Mon is a holiday, and that there is re-entry makes Sun the biggest.
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