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Old 06-21-2012, 08:24 AM   #721
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

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Not sure how common this is. I don't think the floor staff is that quick to get a player seated in a busted position before one hand is even dealt. I sure haven't seen that happen at Venetian.

A++++++++++ to Tommy for his attitude in taking care of players. I had a nightmare scenario yesterday where I was in the $600 for 3 entries, and each time drew between the button and the small blind. It was a nightmare scenario compounded by the run-bad to have to re-enter 3 times. So happy to see this change.
Wow, that must have been some serious run bad to have to plow through a 15k starting stack twice and be on a 3rd one during the re-entry period!
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:33 AM   #722
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I had a nightmare scenario yesterday where I was in the $600 for 3 entries, and each time drew between the button and the small blind. It was a nightmare scenario compounded by the run-bad to have to re-enter 3 times. So happy to see this change.
Hahaha wow I'm on tilt just reading that.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:05 PM   #723
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Schedule conflict again tomorrow. $600 Omaha 8 directly against $2500 o/e. Lots of the same players. So easy to schedule these events with no conflicts.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:07 PM   #724
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

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Wow, that must have been some serious run bad to have to plow through a 15k starting stack twice and be on a 3rd one during the re-entry period!
It was, of course.

AhKh 4-bet pre, villian calls, flop K44, we get it in, he has KK.

Limp-call a raise with 7d6d, flop Ah4d5d, we get it in, he has A4o and holds.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:34 PM   #725
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

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It was, of course.

AhKh 4-bet pre, villian calls, flop K44, we get it in, he has KK.

Limp-call a raise with 7d6d, flop Ah4d5d, we get it in, he has A4o and holds.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:51 PM   #726
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

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Schedule conflict again tomorrow. $600 Omaha 8 directly against $2500 o/e. Lots of the same players. So easy to schedule these events with no conflicts.
Allen,

The phrase " lots of the same players" could apply to every event we run against another casino.

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Old 06-22-2012, 12:46 AM   #727
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Allen,

The phrase " lots of the same players" could apply to every event we run against another casino.

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You only run a few mixed events, its easy not to schedule them over the same wsop mixed event. Sorry if I wasnt clear. There is a finite group of players who like these events. No need to split them up between venues.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:57 AM   #728
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

The Venetian has done an ok job of competing with the WSOP but it still is not even close to it. The WSOP has no fear of this series, next year I would like to see ~5 1k buyin events with a 2M guarantee on the schedule on non NLH WSOP days. These will easily hit their guarantee, and it might scare the WSOP into actually becoming player friendly.

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Old 06-22-2012, 05:22 AM   #729
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

you think the V is going to draw 2000 players for a 1k?
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:37 AM   #730
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

if it has a 2M guarantee it definitely will if it is scheduled properly
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:09 PM   #731
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Thank you, I will consider dropping our 7pm to $150 for our November Series.

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I like the new $200 buy-in. Please check with others before lowering it to $150. Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:46 PM   #732
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

Tommy, I just got home after 16 days at the tournament. Nice job. Please consider increasing the number of PLO tournaments. I think you saw the magnitude of the interest when you had the 4pm $600 PLO tournament. The Venetian could become the place to play PLO tournaments.

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Old 06-22-2012, 02:57 PM   #733
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Tommy, I just got home after 16 days at the tournament. Nice job. Please consider increasing the number of PLO tournaments. I think you saw the magnitude of the interest when you had the 4pm $600 PLO tournament. The Venetian could become the place to play PLO tournaments.

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I will definately consider more PLO.

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Old 06-22-2012, 08:13 PM   #734
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Re: 2012 Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III: May 24 - July 15

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The Venetian has done an ok job of competing with the WSOP but it still is not even close to it. The WSOP has no fear of this series, next year I would like to see ~5 1k buyin events with a 2M guarantee on the schedule on non NLH WSOP days. These will easily hit their guarantee, and it might scare the WSOP into actually becoming player friendly.

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While it'd be a nice warning shot to the WSOP, I think we need to step back into reality. Can you imagine Tommy going to his boss with your proposal? Im not sure what the largest field the V has gotten for a 1k is, but I'd guess its around 3-400. They'd call him bat **** crazy (not to mention the space issue).

That's really all irrelevant though. Fish play the WSOP because of the WSOP name no matter how poor the actual tourney is (see the $235 daily) and because of the bracelet. Those are two things the Venetian is never going to have.

I would also argue that the Venetian isn't as much of a WSOP competitor as it is a WSOP alternative. Their schedule essentially mirrors the WSOP schedule, just with smaller buy ins. Their mixed events are usually timed so people in town can play the WSOP and then their event. They know their role, basically.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:41 AM   #735
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Guarantees attract players. Even a 1.5M guarantee would suffice and would be met 100% of the time if scheduled correctly. It would be up to the Venetian to have enough dealers and tables to accommodate it. They do have that huge convention center
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