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06-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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Allegedly Attractive
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Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Well?
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06-22-2009, 12:46 PM
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Don't Call Me Shirley
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Long dead.
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06-22-2009, 12:56 PM
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Allegedly Attractive
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Long dead.
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Sigh. I was so hoping that in the future there would be an Immortal Bionic Wookie....who's gonna be my nemesis if you're dead? 
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06-22-2009, 01:02 PM
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Tripod
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
dead. and probably dust.
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06-22-2009, 01:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Waiting to be unfrozen.
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06-22-2009, 01:43 PM
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Don't Call Me Shirley
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Well, HH, there are roughly pi*10^7 seconds in a year. To get to a trillion (10^12), we need another four and a half powers of 10 - roughly 50,000 years. There's more time between now and a trillion seconds from now than there is between now and the beginning of recorded human history.
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06-22-2009, 01:49 PM
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Allegedly Attractive
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Au contraire, Mr. Scientist Wookie:
A Trillion Seconds - NPR
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It turns out Senator Johnny Isakson stepped into a very well studied, but complicated area of scientific measurement when he attempted to explain a trillion dollars.
Isakson tried to covert a trillion seconds into years, months and days.
It turns out no one can tell you how many days in the future a trillion seconds would put you. And it's not even like, 'we're not sure it's a Thursday or a Tuesday'. We don't even know what month it would be.
I called up Tom O'Brian, chief of the Time and Frequency Division at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) who works on super-precise atomic clocks.
He says there are just too many uncertainties. Among other things tidal forces with the moon are slowing down the earth's rotation. (Many years from now, he says, the moon will sit fixed above one spot on earth. - HH Note: I never knew this - does this mean that the moon will then always look the same, i.e., it would appear as a full moon, crescent, half moon, etc. - whatever shape it would be - THE SAME WAY EVERY NIGHT?)
O'Brian writes
"no one can predict exactly where in space the earth will be in one trillion atomic seconds from now, so it is impossible to say exactly what will be the day, hour, minute and second reading on a clock based on a hybrid of earth orientation and atomic clocks one trillion atomic seconds from now. Using certain different timekeeping systems, it would be possible to give an exact answer."
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Hobby beats Wookie. Game, set, match. Hobby wins it all AGAIN. Hobby is a Winner. Yeah, Hobby!
Last edited by HobbyHorse; 06-22-2009 at 01:58 PM.
Reason: Yes, I know...I just wanted to post my article.
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06-22-2009, 02:02 PM
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Don't Call Me Shirley
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
You're trying to out-nit me based on a bunch of people who are trying to sound smart but are actually retarded?
Seconds don't depend on the revolution of the earth for their existence. We can define seconds in terms of the amount of time it takes for light to travel 2.998*10^8 meters, and that's invariant with respect to the rate of rotation and orbit of the earth. Sure, the number of complete rotations or orbits of the earth after that long of a time can't be precisely known after that much time, the amount of time it'll take light to travel 2.998*10^20 meters is still equal to roughly 50,000 times the time it takes the earth to orbit right now. The error bars on the number or revolutions and orbits doesn't change the fact that you'll be long dead.
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06-22-2009, 02:02 PM
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Allegedly Attractive
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
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Originally Posted by Dominic
dead. and probably dust.
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Or maybe by that time you will have evolved enough to be reincarnated as your opposite...let me be the first to introduce the future Jenna Jameson 50000 to the Lounge!
And by that time I will be a heartbreakingly suave and hairless Frenchman, ldo.
Mmmmm...future me makes me drool... 
Last edited by HobbyHorse; 06-22-2009 at 02:09 PM.
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06-22-2009, 02:06 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Changing the Earth's position doesn't slow the passage of time, it just screws up atomic clocks. It's going to take ~31k years, and if you want to get it down to the nanosecond you could.
edit: Wookie said it first and made it sound smartier.
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06-22-2009, 02:16 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Hopefully still rising at night to feast from the blood of the living.
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06-22-2009, 02:23 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
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Mmmmm...future me makes me drool...
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The grave's a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
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06-22-2009, 02:35 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
Life runs to death
As rivers to the sea
And life is fresh and death is salt to me.
Though after a trillion seconds or so, I'll probably be like, whatever.
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06-22-2009, 03:18 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
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Originally Posted by Landonfan
Changing the Earth's position doesn't slow the passage of time, it just screws up atomic clocks.
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Um, no.
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Scientists had long realized that atoms (and molecules) have resonances; each chemical element and compound absorbs and emits electromagnetic radiation at its own characteristic frequencies. These resonances are inherently stable over time and space. An atom of hydrogen or cesium here today is (so far as we know) exactly like one a million years ago or in another galaxy. Thus atoms constitute a potential "pendulum" with a reproducible rate that can form the basis for more accurate clocks.
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06-22-2009, 03:20 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Where Will You Be a Trillion Seconds From Now?
maybe landon was talking about time dilation? where time pass slower depending on gravity...
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