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Old 09-02-2009, 12:31 PM   #196
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Re: September: please let us get laid

Indeed, Wook.

At the very least I would have continued to expand the business until it was at a point where I knew I was losing money by not focusing on Desktop Publishing. Quitting a job with the hope of expanding a business to bring in a stable income is like playing the lottery. Good luck!
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:33 PM   #197
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Today is my gf of 15 yrs last day at her good paying good benifit job. After 10 years she quit due to freak/bitch boss. Seems to think her sanity is important. I keep telling her "her sanity was never one of her strong points".

Change is good? right? How about fear of poverty? I know it is not a real fear but neither is the fear of heights when you are standing on a bridge. Fear and Danger are not really related that closely.


AND Hobby Pregnacy dreams do not exist. Those are nightmares. Never had one but understand the problem.
I've known a lot of women who will quit jobs on the spot. Usually married or living with a guy who will pay their bills, so they don't really care. Guys tend not to have the luxury to be too flighty.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:41 PM   #198
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awww...

Who wants to email or text that to their girl, or any random girl.
Would prefer "so when you gonna let me tap that."
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:45 PM   #199
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Merek: That really sucks. Does she have another job lined up? While I'm on the side of keeping a job until the economy settles, I can understand if her current job was just so soul-sucking she had to get out. But it would seem borderline insane to me if she quit this job without another one waiting.
What he said.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:46 PM   #200
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What kind of test? Grammar/punctuation, I'm assuming?

Good luck!

By the way, why are you going to school? To study what?

It sounds like your plate is extremely full.

What would you do for them as a line editor, do you have to be in the office physically, and how's the pay?
My plate is full. Sometimes I feel very overwhelmed and wonder why I put so much on myself It's just that from a young age I was aware that I would only have so much time in this life to accomplish anything important to me, so I feel guilty for wasting any time. But mostly I'm doing the things I love or contributing to making it possible for me to do what I love, so I can't complain.

A line editor's job is to distinguish the forest and the trees, going line by line and dealing with plot problems, phrasing problems and so on, much like what you have done when helping me out with my own stories. The test includes several examples from their already published works but before they made any changes. My suggested revisions don't have to be in keeping with the changes they ended up making, but they do need to be thorough, aggressive, and accurate enough that they would have made them better pieces. Punctuation and grammar are good to point out but not stressed as much since that is something the copy editor will later focus on.

All the work is done through an online office, no need to be anywhere near their physical location. Pay is an abysmal $50 per book, so no way I can quit my job and do this for a living yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

Got to go, I'll respond later with your question about school.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:50 PM   #201
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I've known a lot of women who will quit jobs on the spot. Usually married or living with a guy who will pay their bills, so they don't really care. Guys tend not to have the luxury to be too flighty.
Yeah I know two women like this and they did expect their husbands to just pick up the slack. It sort of shocked me.

But I also know 3 men like this, so I don't think it's really a gender issue. The two women are really histrionic and self-centered if you ask me. Of the 3 men that I know, all 3 are alcoholics and one (my ex) is bipolar, which I think contributed to his difficulty sticking with a job. My ex had no patience for bitchy bosses and was known to fly off the handle and quit on the spot. I eventually got sick of it.
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She is leaving a 45K(11 months a yr) job with the plan to start a desktop publishing business. She has been doing this a bit on the side for years and has ongoing work for 5-7k per year and is trying to expand. But we live in a small isolated town and there are a bunch of small similar businesses. To be successful you have to be good at self-promotion. She is amazing, smart and talented, but selfpromotion is not her strength. Can she learn that is the question?

I do business counselling and business loans for a living. Few people can go far beyond their comfort zone and stay there and be happy. I expect her to have a hard time building a customer base.

Can we be comfortable with her income being half or less? Will she beat herself up in slow times? Will we ever get that month in the country siide in France? Will Dexter be caught? These and other questions will be answered in the next episode of "As the Merek squirms"

I feel bad about whining. We have had a easy run of two good incomes for so long, lots of holidays, etc. If this was 5 years ago when my job thrilled me more it would not be a issue. Compared to others on here we have little to complain about. We still have no worries about paying the mortgage, we just have to be careful with money for first time in 10 years.
Hate to be a cynic, but hope you like kids. Some women choose the mommy route when they get tired of or frustrated by work and know they have their expenses covered.

Thing about building up and maintaining contacts and networking is it can be a full time business of its own, and a pretty much perpetual one. Talking to people you don't like, going to parties you don't want to go to, becoming involved in community events and organizations you are not interested in, etc. If your GF doesn't truly groove on such stuff, it could be very hard for her.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:53 PM   #203
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Yeah I know two women like this and they did expect their husbands to just pick up the slack. It sort of shocked me.

But I also know 3 men like this, so I don't think it's really a gender issue. The two women are really histrionic and self-centered if you ask me. Of the 3 men that I know, all 3 are alcoholics and one (my ex) is bipolar, which I think contributed to his difficulty sticking with a job. My ex had no patience for bitchy bosses and was known to fly off the handle and quit on the spot. I eventually got sick of it.
Comparing apples to oranges here, if you're talking average women versus exceptionally nutty guys. Of course nutball guys are going to be as nutty as average women, if not more so. But in general, men know they can't not work and expect women to be the sole earner in a relationship.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:02 PM   #204
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Comparing apples to oranges here, if you're talking average women versus exceptionally nutty guys. Of course nutball guys are going to be as nutty as average women, if not more so. But in general, men know they can't not work and expect women to be the sole earner in a relationship.
Disagree here. The guys that I know are all in long term relationships and if you met them you would not think they were "nutty." You would be surprised at how many women actually are the breadwinners in many low-to-mid income families. I don't mean to argue with you, just saying that in my opinion it is not a gender issue, it's an individual issue.
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awww...

Who wants to email or text that to their girl, or any random girl.
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Duh! Thanks for the idea, Dave. I will send that to my wife now
Careful. Once you clarify for her that you know one thing, what happens if she bumps into a guy who knows two things?

You may be setting yourself up for a fall, here.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:10 PM   #206
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omg that made me laugh. You didn't really tell her this did you? (I think you could say this about a lot of us.)



I agree with you Wook, but Merek was in a bad spot. He can't exactly forbid his gf from quitting. I don't think a partner can do that can they? I can picture it now..."Are you insane? Quit whining and suck it up you big baby. We don't have the luxury of deciding where and if we can work in this economy. grow up." I don't know, can you say that kind of thing to your partner?
I can picture a woman saying this to a man, and I wouldn't blame her or be surprised, either. A couple is no longer a single, after all.

Harder to picture a man saying that to a woman, but it shouldn't be.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:14 PM   #207
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The sky is reddish today. Fire has made our air at a bad level to breath. The first year I was here I remember the sun was virtually blocked out.
Hell, OUR sky is reddish in the evenings and hazy during the day from your fires.

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Merek,

I'd endure the insanity of the bitch until there seems to be more optimism about the economy, personally.


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Can a partner subject his or her spouse to the stress of months of scraping by, tapping into savings, and wondering how they'll pay the bills? What if Merek gets laid off? He'll have that fear lingering over his head, too. "Are you insane? Quit whining and suck it up you big baby. We don't have the luxury of deciding where and if we can work in this economy. grow up" sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to say.
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I've known a lot of women who will quit jobs on the spot. Usually married or living with a guy who will pay their bills, so they don't really care. Guys tend not to have the luxury to be too flighty.
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Yeah I know two women like this and they did expect their husbands to just pick up the slack. It sort of shocked me.

But I also know 3 men like this, so I don't think it's really a gender issue. The two women are really histrionic and self-centered if you ask me. Of the 3 men that I know, all 3 are alcoholics and one (my ex) is bipolar, which I think contributed to his difficulty sticking with a job. My ex had no patience for bitchy bosses and was known to fly off the handle and quit on the spot. I eventually got sick of it.
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Disagree here. The guys that I know are all in long term relationships and if you met them you would not think they were "nutty." You would be surprised at how many women actually are the breadwinners in many low-to-mid income families. I don't mean to argue with you, just saying that in my opinion it is not a gender issue, it's an individual issue.
Don't have time right now to comment other than I disagree with Katy. (Sorry) I have personally seen this FAR more with women than men. Not always, but in general. I attribute it to the Male/logic Female/emotion thing
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A line editor's job is to distinguish the forest and the trees, going line by line and dealing with plot problems, phrasing problems and so on, much like what you have done when helping me out with my own stories. The test includes several examples from their already published works but before they made any changes. My suggested revisions don't have to be in keeping with the changes they ended up making, but they do need to be thorough, aggressive, and accurate enough that they would have made them better pieces. Punctuation and grammar are good to point out but not stressed as much since that is something the copy editor will later focus on.

All the work is done through an online office, no need to be anywhere near their physical location. Pay is an abysmal $50 per book, so no way I can quit my job and do this for a living yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

Got to go, I'll respond later with your question about school.
For the amount of work being done, it sounds like basically a token payment rather than a real one. To really work on a book line by line would take countless dozens of hours. I think it's sometimes quicker to write stuff than edit it. But it does sound like it will give you a lot of experience in a field you're interested in, and keep your hand in to pot when it comes to networking.

I hope you don't have to sit through too many horrible submissions.

The distinguishing the forest for the trees parts sounds decent. It's fun to turn the larger things about; the nitty work gets tedious.
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okay, just did the P90X "stretch" video with the GF. Did that because we only have one set of bands and no chin up bar yet.

wow, I haven't stretched like that in 25 years. I feel worn out but great now.

Tomorrow I'll get into the meat and potatoes and do the "chest and back" video here at home by myself.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:40 PM   #210
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Disagree here. The guys that I know are all in long term relationships and if you met them you would not think they were "nutty." You would be surprised at how many women actually are the breadwinners in many low-to-mid income families. I don't mean to argue with you, just saying that in my opinion it is not a gender issue, it's an individual issue.
Let's just call them exceptional then. You are comparing apples to oranges if you compare the psychological or emotional stability of ordinary women versus the stability of two alcoholics and one bipolar. Unless we've begun defining emotional and psychological stability downward to include having commonly life-changing dangerous addictions, for instance. And I think that would be stretching things a bit.

A more fair comparison would be if ALL the people you were comparing were equally not addicts or afflicted with significant psychological considerations.

Now, if you had said one of the guys simply has a fetish for sitting up to his waist in smoked herring, I would have agreed he was comparable to average people, as long as he didn't do it at work.
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