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06-01-2012, 02:21 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by doozi123
anyway, i really appreciate the feedback from u and everyone else so far. i'm still in the process of weighing my options. i am almost certain i'm going to wsop to grind some cash and see some old faces from last wsop (happiest month of my life). i will try to find a solution that works best for me. til then, thanks again!
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Reflect on that for a bit.
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06-01-2012, 02:26 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: yo no soy por aqui
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'd skip all the travelling and life experience stuff, but that's me. You can go through enormous amounts of money doing stuff like that.
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Yeah, you can, but that spending a lot isn't a prerequisite for travel. Sounds like he's already decided he doesn't need to do anymore traveling though so it's a moot point.
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06-01-2012, 03:26 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by edavis09
Understandable.
I am actually going through a career change atm, from engineering to security (financial) analysis. Like me, you should utilize the time and financial comfort you have to find something that truly interests you on a personal level (cliche, but true "it's not work if you love what you do"). Once you find that niche, immerse yourself in it by reading and networking as much as possible.
You are young (as I am), and have an opportunity to explore your options. Please don't be lazy, as this is one of the most unattractive traits one can possess imo, and in the opinion of employers (obv).
A quote that I came across in my recent reading, which has been of some inspiration:
"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so." - Bertrand Russell
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yeah, i am relatively young and i still have some time to figure things out. it's just that ever since i was a freshman in college, i had no idea what i wanted to do and i still don't. that was almost 7 years ago. i got through college, but did so without any inspiration or desire to work. i just did it because that's what ppl did. it made me not want to go to class.
but yea i agree with u on the lazy thing. i am definitely someone that wastes a lot of time and procrastinates. i am still working on that. thanks for your feedback, seriously.
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06-01-2012, 03:29 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 143
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by luvthegame
Assume this is level or brag.
"I'm not talented, driven, focused nor skilled....what do I do?"
"I quit my job and now feel stressed my friends and family aren't proud of me....booohooo?"
"I play poker, but awe..... shucks, I made all this money without trying (wink, wink)"
I don't want to travel.
I don't want to run a business.
I don't want to go back to school.
I want an easy job that trains me for life, but isn't too demanding.
Who.
Cares.
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You're not very good at reading. I may consider myself to not be skilled at anything, but at least I have reading comprehension down. Hope you will one day be able to as well.
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06-01-2012, 03:33 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Likewise. You don't know what to commit to, what to get good at. Some people are fortunate in that regard and some aren't. Maybe some even never get to find out. Who knows, maybe the answer is staring you right in the face. Good luck!
YW. (BTW I suck so bad at life it's embarrassing. I'm sick good at math tho. If/when you commit you will find out what it means to make sacrifices.)
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yes, you get my point. spot on. i don't know what to get good at or commit to. I know it's not just me , but i am concerned about how long it will take me to finally come up with an answer to my situation.
at least you are good at something like you said (math). may i ask what you currently do and what your situation is? might help me get some perspective. if not, that's cool. already appreciate your feedback.
Thanks again!
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06-01-2012, 05:36 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: you got it
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by doozi123
i don't know what to get good at or commit to.
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How it happened for we was I have always had a fascination with gambling and probability. Then in your spot (minus the life and the 220K) I came across this book on card counting in Blackjack, and developed an obsession to the point of writing a computer program, in BASIC, to simulate the system in the book. Completing the program I realized that not that many people could have done that, so I had a certain skill for it. Then I became aware that there were funded MSc conversion (I had a degree in philosophy) courses in computing out there, and that would beat my then job as a despatch rider and living in a squat.
See I don't know how any of that applies to you.
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06-01-2012, 05:46 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Los Angeles
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Volunteer or go back to school to get Masters degree.
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06-02-2012, 10:57 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2011
Location: inside your deepest nightmare
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
Don't quit your job
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06-03-2012, 06:51 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
Yeah I think a lot of people are in similiar situation as you, although many of those don't have as much money.
Since money in the short-medium term is probably not going to be a problem for you since you don't seem to live an "expensive" life, and you can play a bit of poker here and there to supplement an income.
It seems you want to do something productive rather than just chill, travel etc... (which is not a bad option in your case imo, but it sounds like this is not necessarily what you want to do). You said you might want to start a business later on.
I would suggest you just get information on a certain area of interest, whether that be programming, organising party's, finance, ice hockey, whatever. Either get a job in the area that you like (regardless of $/hr), or start a website about it or whatever. Doing something productive about something your passionate about will make you feel good, and will make you much more knowledgeable in it, which is a big plus if you want to start a business in that kind of area later on. Having a job in that kind of area will also help you a lot as you will learn how things work and you will also be interested. Instead of thinking "yeah I'm just here grinding work kind of chilling so I can make some money and tell my family I have a job" you will be saying "This is cool because I'm learning about x and y and this is somewhat interesting".
Anyway, job or no job, invest your time into something you enjoy, and let the chips fall where they may.
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06-04-2012, 07:52 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Friendly Libertarian
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
Rushmore is on the right track.
$220k w/o debt is a super-powerful spot for someone in his mid-20s. Why not continue playing poker, but start investing in things on the side? Not all investments are going to require the entire lump sum. Check out spex and bwana's posts in BFI about mobile homes, for example. There are investments on the order of $5k to $10k. If you take a loss or two on those, it's not going to ruin you, and you can probably make it back from poker.
By all means, pick something that you're interested in. If you have any desire to make money off investments, you typically have to learn about in what you're investing. If you can get to a level of proficiency in literally any type of investment, you may not only find a career for yourself, but you'll also have a pretty solid little entry on your resume that you can talk about in terms of your successes and experience.
Also...being a successful investor would certainly give you the firepower to tell your relatives to stfu. Regarding what to invest in...all I can tell you in my limited experience and education is make sure you can see where the money is coming from. Understand how you're going to get paid in the first place, and then research how likely that event is to occur. If some "buddy" of yours comes along with an "opportunity," even if he's someone you trust, be very very wary. Look for things that may not have the highest return ever, but are pretty easy to achieve.
One last thing...you spoke about the blankness of your resume. Remember that you can pick and choose what experience goes on there. Even if you only invest a few times a year, you can still talk about that with a potential employer down the road (assuming you need to get one). Most prospective employers want you to have some manner of expertise and be able to talk about your successes (in something other than poker). Side investment would probably give you the perfect avenue for that.
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06-05-2012, 11:25 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by Klakteuh
Yeah I think a lot of people are in similiar situation as you, although many of those don't have as much money.
Since money in the short-medium term is probably not going to be a problem for you since you don't seem to live an "expensive" life, and you can play a bit of poker here and there to supplement an income.
It seems you want to do something productive rather than just chill, travel etc... (which is not a bad option in your case imo, but it sounds like this is not necessarily what you want to do). You said you might want to start a business later on.
I would suggest you just get information on a certain area of interest, whether that be programming, organising party's, finance, ice hockey, whatever. Either get a job in the area that you like (regardless of $/hr), or start a website about it or whatever. Doing something productive about something your passionate about will make you feel good, and will make you much more knowledgeable in it, which is a big plus if you want to start a business in that kind of area later on. Having a job in that kind of area will also help you a lot as you will learn how things work and you will also be interested. Instead of thinking "yeah I'm just here grinding work kind of chilling so I can make some money and tell my family I have a job" you will be saying "This is cool because I'm learning about x and y and this is somewhat interesting".
Anyway, job or no job, invest your time into something you enjoy, and let the chips fall where they may.
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totally agree with you. i'll definitely be spending the next few months trying to figure out what i am interested or have a passion in. thanks for your time and advice!
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06-05-2012, 11:29 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 143
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by Coffee
Rushmore is on the right track.
$220k w/o debt is a super-powerful spot for someone in his mid-20s. Why not continue playing poker, but start investing in things on the side? Not all investments are going to require the entire lump sum. Check out spex and bwana's posts in BFI about mobile homes, for example. There are investments on the order of $5k to $10k. If you take a loss or two on those, it's not going to ruin you, and you can probably make it back from poker.
By all means, pick something that you're interested in. If you have any desire to make money off investments, you typically have to learn about in what you're investing. If you can get to a level of proficiency in literally any type of investment, you may not only find a career for yourself, but you'll also have a pretty solid little entry on your resume that you can talk about in terms of your successes and experience.
Also...being a successful investor would certainly give you the firepower to tell your relatives to stfu. Regarding what to invest in...all I can tell you in my limited experience and education is make sure you can see where the money is coming from. Understand how you're going to get paid in the first place, and then research how likely that event is to occur. If some "buddy" of yours comes along with an "opportunity," even if he's someone you trust, be very very wary. Look for things that may not have the highest return ever, but are pretty easy to achieve.
One last thing...you spoke about the blankness of your resume. Remember that you can pick and choose what experience goes on there. Even if you only invest a few times a year, you can still talk about that with a potential employer down the road (assuming you need to get one). Most prospective employers want you to have some manner of expertise and be able to talk about your successes (in something other than poker). Side investment would probably give you the perfect avenue for that.
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yea i never really at it that way. thanks for your response. really opened my eyes to looking at this as more of an opportunity rather than a time to be spazzing out about a quarter-life crisis. i will definetely spend some time and search for something i wanna learn about and be proficient in, and possibly invest in it or something else. thanks for making me realize that i have an opportunity. you seem like a pretty optimistic person. appreciate your feedback and time, as well as your entire perspective on my whole life situation. really helped me a lot.
Thank you!!!
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06-09-2012, 09:20 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
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Originally Posted by doozi123
hi guys. just wanted to see if i could get any good constructive criticism and/or advice about my current life situation. will try to keep this as short as possible even though there is a lot to say. here goes:
i am 25 years old. i graduated university in '09 and have grinded online til black friday. i made enough to pay for any expenses i have (mainly just for entertainment. i live at home even though i wasn't at home much due to traveling a bunch in 2011). outside of poker, i just did some traveling and chilled with friends. sitting at work right now where i have been here for about 13 or 14 weeks. it is my first job ever at a electronics customization company. during the first 6 or 7 weeks, i was learning to work in the sales department. i answered people's questions sales questions, gave quotes, worked with ebay and paypal a bunch. i was totally fine with this, even at $10/hr. however, my boss had to let someone go after week 6. that is where it all started crumbling for me. i now had to do my and his job. his job consisted of packaging quite heavy electronic products, as well as building power supplies. i've been sticking it out since he got fired, but just gave my 2 weeks notice a few days ago. my job has since turned into 90% physical labor packaging boxes and carrying them down to the pick-up area downstairs. after packaging is done, i have to cut the boxes that i took the electronics out of down to size. then i often have to sweep the floor of that room since it is really messy after i am done with it. then take out garbage. quite depressing.
anyway, all of my friends/family think i am an idiot for "not trying". they think i am just trying to get out with a B.S excuse, which just is not the case. i am quite miserable here because i do such a skilless job which anybody can do. I can go to the casino 2 hours from my home and make more money in 4-5 days than i do in an entire month working here. before you make any conclusions, let me try to elaborate some more. i honestly do not know what i am good at. my grades in high school and college were very poor. i barely graduated college because i was too busy not going to class (usually due to playing online poker during '06-'09). My resume would be a blank piece of paper if i did not make things up on it.
i intend to go to wsop this year and play a ton of cash as i did last year. i had the best year of my life last year because of ultimate freedom. last year i met so many awesome people in the same situation as me. that was just what i needed. all of my housemates in vegas, mostly from leggopoker were super cool and i was able to develop a special bond with all of them.
i have about 220k to my name. this obviously played a role in my decision-making to quit my job. i know people always say to get a job lined up before you quit your old job. i think those people are usually the ones that have a lot more responsiblity than i do, and have more expenses. i am fortunate enough to have a lot of savings and do not have any serious obligations or expenses other than which i choose to (entertainment, traveling, food, etc). i plan on taking a 2-3 month break and then start applying for jobs again. i know it will be difficult for me but it will give me a lot less stress. yea, this is obviously the easy way out.
questions for you guys:
1) already decided i am quitting and my last day is next friday. what would you have done in my situation?
2) i realize how hard it will be for me to find another job. at the moment, i don't give a damn. i really don't find it's worth staying at a company where i learn nothing. making $1260 after taxes per month is awful. i spend about $200 on gas per month for commuting by car. i don't get health insurance. what would you do if you had 220k(ish)? invest ? if so, in what?
3) do you think i am screwed long-term-wise?
4) would you even take a break after quitting? or would you just go immediately into looking for another job? do u think i am wasting my time/life? if so, advice plz.
if you need any more information about me that i may have left out, please do not hesitate to ask. i am an open person and do not have anything to hide (or at least dont think i do) on an online forum.
hope i can get some serious feedback/advice. thanks in advance, guys. = )
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I'm 25 as well and it's a horrible age to be, especially because I have no achievements, no friends, no gf, no degree, no skills. I feel like I should have achieved something by now, but I have nothing in life except $20,000 in savings and a small ****ty business that is losing steam rapidly. If I had 220k in cash I would feel almost invincible and would strut around like a boss 24/7. To me, $220k might aswell be $1, 000, 000.
Anyway, at the age of 25 I'm feeling rather dejected. I want friends because I have none, sexual intimacy because I have none, and a good rate of income so I can travel around a bit. This is how I'm going to get my life on track:
At the age of 25 I realized like yourself that I had no skills. I always wanted to design and create computer games when I was younger, but I hated the necessary mathematics so I quit that ambition. Having no skills or prospects at 25 is really embarrassing, I have now challenged myself to learn Spanish, Chinese and some other skills. Learning languages is something I enjoy. At the age of 25, I have finally become decisive and have a measurable goal that I can focus on entirely. I've set my course and will not change direction now.
Like youself, I also have a ****ty 10$/hr job aswell (it's actually £6.5/hr), but I also have other ways of making money and I spend my free time researching new money making ideas. Luckily, my ****ty job is only part time so I can spend my ample free time seriously improving my skills. Once I learn Spanish I want to learn about the markets; the commodities market, stock market, statistical analysis, and use my existing savings to make more money. Once I've learned about the markets, I want to be able to develop websites, learn how to use Dreamweaver and maybe Photoshop. At the age of 25, I just want to keep adding skills to my arsenal. I want to rapidly increase my skill base by absorbing only useful skills. i don't want to waste four years of my life going to university and learning the unspecific skills of a degree. i want specific, desirable skills that I can learn rapidly with dedication.
To increase my social sphere of friends, I've decided trying one new experience a week. A social experience preferably: Playing sport, volunteering, rock climbing, debating, stand up comedy, going to a restaurant, cooking a new recipe, etc. This should give me loads of new exciting experiences that enrich my life and interesting things to talk about with my current colleagues with whom I currently don't speak because my life is so **** that I'm embarrassed to talk to them.
I'm going to be leaving my comfort zone permanently. I'm going to try and pick up loads of girls with the deliberate intention of getting rejected and becoming immune to the attendant feelings of humiliation. I want to overcompensate for my lack of women in the past and become super successful. I want to become like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddjZf7Nqbo0
Last edited by Megastar11; 06-09-2012 at 09:28 PM.
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06-10-2012, 01:20 AM
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mazungu
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boot-licking little man
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
Megastar,
It sounds like you don't like yourself very much. That's perfectly fine, I was in the same situation many years ago. Wanting to change is the first step in making it happen so you're on the right track.
But as far as women and relationships go, be aware that to attract anyone special you will have to like yourself. It stands to reason, otherwise what are you offering this prospective mate? You could very well find someone while you're in this stage, but there is a very high probability that she doesn't like herself either. And when you put together two people like that you usually end up with a world of pain.
Your focus should be on becoming someone who you like. You want to arrive at the point where you wouldn't want to be anyone else in the world. And with that you just might find that you end up attracting someone awesome.
ps, I never had 20K at your age. I didn't have it at 35 either. So you must have done something right.
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06-11-2012, 02:39 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: One yard
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Re: quitting my job. please give me some serious advice!
I feel ya man, I just quit my job to start a Masters program. Didn't like it at all so I quit and am looking for a job again now. I still don't have a damn clue what to do with my life. Good news is, we're young and have years to figure this stuff out. Hell, I know people 30+ yrs old that don't have a clue either.
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