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Old 03-26-2009, 10:49 PM   #91
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Re: pointless knowledge

How about this for pointless knowledge . . . An infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of keyboards will never ever reproduce the works of Shakespeare over an infinite amount of time.

I think the above is factual and proven by mathematical probability geeks but I could be wrong.

If factual, I don't really see a point in knowing or proving it to be, and the idea of an infinite number of monkeys pressing buttons . . . gaaa, head asplode.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:52 PM   #92
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Idk if you're joking or not. If you're trying to tell me that breaching = jumping, then I'm gonna have to disagree unless you can prove to me that it's scientifically classified as jumping.
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Okay.

This from Enchanted Learning's Whale Glossary-

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Breaching: Many whales are very acrobatic, even breaching (jumping) high out of the water and then slapping the water as they come back down.
Really, if you can't accept the learning of the enchanted, I feel for you. They're enchanted, for Pete's sake..

Or this Wikipedia page, with the definition provided by cetacean researcher and whale groupie Hal Whitehead, in which he defines a breach as a "leap". In fact, virtually everything I checked defined a "breach" as a jump or a leap.

As to a "scientific classification" of jumping, there is none; different species do it in different ways. Frogs and horses both jump, but are not physiologically identical in doing so. But even if you accept the rigorous definition that demands the jumper has to be at some point 100% airborne after propelling oneself up, using one's own power, then whales can, indeed, jump.

Now, as to whether other mammals can or cannot jump: there is no real consensus. Even the guy at AllExperts, who seems to have zoological degrees spewing out of his wazoo, cannot give a definite answer, although he seems to doubt the jumping abilities of sloths and bats. Also unable to jump, at least according to Wesley Snipes? White men. This in spite of the House of Pain imploring us to do so.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:00 AM   #93
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As to a "scientific classification" of jumping, there is none
So then jumping is subjective. In that case, I refuse to believe that it's possible to jump without the involvement of legs of some sort.

Also, showing a bunch of articles where breaching is described as jumping doesn't mean it is jumping. It's just being compared to jumping because that's the best way to explain it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:23 AM   #94
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How do you prove a negative?
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:16 AM   #95
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So then jumping is subjective. In that case, I refuse to believe that it's possible to jump without the involvement of legs of some sort.
Awaiting your explanation as to why Mexican Breaching Beans have never broken through as a novelty item.

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Also, showing a bunch of articles where breaching is described as jumping doesn't mean it is jumping. It's just being compared to jumping because that's the best way to explain it.
Only here in the South, where five constitutes a full set of teeth, would two be considered a "bunch".

The fact that there is no consensus in a physiological or scientific definition of "jump" does not mean it is purely subjective. In the examples cited, breaching is not being compared to jumping, it is being identified as jumping. If you want to google up, you'll find plenty of qualified folks who consider it "jumping" without giving one thought to whether it passes your definitional muster.

If you want to continue to use such a semantic loophole, be my guest. It's unassailable, really.

You can also put on a Burger King crown, walk around town in your bathrobe, and call yourself the King of Landonfanland. Just don't expect a whole lotta bowing and scraping going on when you walk by.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:25 AM   #96
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blah blah blah, can't jump without legs, end of story. Whales are just flailing around in the water until both a whaleologist and a jumpologist tell me otherwise.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:36 AM   #97
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blah blah blah, can't jump without legs, end of story. Whales are just flailing around in the water until both a whaleologist and a jumpologist tell me otherwise.
A whaleologist did tell you. See my first response. If you read that article, he further explains the difference between a breach and a lurch, and describes the physical activity needed to achieve such feats. None are achieved by simply "flailing around".

As for a jumpologist, I am awaiting a call back from Doctors Roth and Van Halen.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:37 AM   #98
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Landonfan and kudzudemon...I think that this is really what you want from each other...



You ain't foolin' me with all these talk about "whales"...

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Old 03-27-2009, 01:46 AM   #99
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A whaleologist did tell you. See my first response. If you read that article, he further explains the difference between a breach and a lurch, and describes the physical activity needed to achieve such feats. None are achieved by simply "flailing around".
Did he describe the part where the whale bends its knees and pushes off from the ground? Cause otherwise it's not jumping.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:47 AM   #100
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HH,

How about I breach your face?
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:48 AM   #101
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HH,

How about I breach your face?
Shawn Johnson would not approve, Ginger.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:50 AM   #102
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Not Moby Dick, though. Everyone knows white whales can't jump.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:03 AM   #103
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blah blah blah, can't jump without legs, end of story. Whales are just flailing around in the water until both a whaleologist and a jumpologist tell me otherwise.
Can snakes jump?

I think someone should go to the Oxford English to resolve this question.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:04 AM   #104
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elephants are the only animals that cannot jump
i also think they are the only 4-legged mammal whose knees all bend the same direction as humans.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:07 AM   #105
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Not Moby Dick, though. Everyone knows white whales can't jump.
hahahahahahahahaha......very nice, Wook.
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