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03-05-2017 , 10:27 PM
sexy beast.

teddy drives gal back to the airport (stopping off to kill the banker) in his porsche.

they're in London however he's driving a car with American setup ie: the driver on the left side of the car.
and he's driving on the right side of the road.
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03-08-2017 , 05:59 AM
to me a plothole is a clear contradiction, not just unrealistic things happening.
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03-08-2017 , 07:36 AM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh driving in an American model car on the wrong side of the road thru London is a pretty clear contradiction.
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03-10-2017 , 11:52 AM
The whole premise of John Wick 2 doesn't make much sense (semi-spoiler?)

Spoiler:
There's an elaborate code of honor that these international assassins take very seriously, but somehow the Italian gangster guy double-crosses JW and there's no repurcussion from the league of assassins? Like, you'd think he'd get booted out of the club for that.

Also, if you plan on double-crossing your assassin, does it make sense to pick the most legendary, unstoppable assassin in the world instead of one of dozens of generic off-brand guys who are littered all over the place?
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03-10-2017 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
sexy beast.

teddy drives gal back to the airport (stopping off to kill the banker) in his porsche.

they're in London however he's driving a car with American setup ie: the driver on the left side of the car.
and he's driving on the right side of the road.
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to me a plothole is a clear contradiction, not just unrealistic things happening.
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhh driving in an American model car on the wrong side of the road thru London is a pretty clear contradiction.
So, how was the plot affected by this clear contradiction?

There are plenty of movies with all sorts of inconsistent geographic visuals; in fact, one of my favorites is John McClain/Bruce Willis using a Pacific Bell pay phone at "Dulles" Airport in DieHard 2. However, that doesn't mean that there was a hole in the plot because of that. That geographic error is a "clear contradiction" but it really has no effect at all on the plot. Contrast that with the fact that the movie completely disregards the fact that BWI is only about 50 miles from Dulles and that the planes could have easily been diverted there after the tower was taken over instead of just circling Dulles until they ran out of gas. Now to me, that is a major plot hole.
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03-10-2017 , 08:18 PM
meh ur just dismissing it cuz it makes sense in ur mind.

imagine in die hard if ppl were driving around on the wrong side of the road and the steering wheel was on the right side of the car etc and everyone was acting like that was totally natural you wouldn't just shrug it off as an inconsequential geographical oddity.

you would be like wtf is going on this movie is ridic and it would be a huge deal.
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03-10-2017 , 09:23 PM
On IMDB these both fall under goofs but they consider it "errors in geography" which is different from "plot holes".
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03-12-2017 , 09:09 PM
I really don't think a Left hand drive automobile in a right drive country constitutes a plot hole... it had nothing to do with the plot.

It might qualify as a continuity error... or perhaps he's just into gray market vehicles as a indicator of his extravagant personality.
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03-13-2017 , 03:40 AM
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I really don't think a Left hand drive automobile in a right drive country constitutes a plot hole... it had nothing to do with the plot.

It might qualify as a continuity error... or perhaps he's just into gray market vehicles as a indicator of his extravagant personality.

and has a special license to drive on the wrong side of the road?

I'll grant it doesn't affect the plot but it's a major continuity error and again if it was reversed and in a movie like die hard it would be a much bigger deal.
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03-13-2017 , 11:17 AM
Not sure it qualifies as great, but it's at least pretty good.

Logan ending spoiler below.

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I get that he's sick and his healing powers are deteriorating, and therefore he can't recover from massive wounds anymore. But, he still has an adamantium skeleton, right? So, how did he get impaled by wood? How'd it get through his rib cage?
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03-19-2017 , 11:21 AM
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Not sure it qualifies as great, but it's at least pretty good.

Logan ending spoiler below.

Spoiler:
I get that he's sick and his healing powers are deteriorating, and therefore he can't recover from massive wounds anymore. But, he still has an adamantium skeleton, right? So, how did he get impaled by wood? How'd it get through his rib cage?
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I don't recall how big the wood/wound was but a rib cage has spaces in between so it's possible it went in between a couple of his ribs.
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03-23-2017 , 10:24 PM
This was my problem with Logan:

Gabriela only cares about getting Laura to North Dakota on time so she can go to Canada and be safe forever. She has $20,000. Why doesn't she buy a car and drive just the two of them while keeping as low a profile as possible? Not only does she not need Logan, contacting Logan and asking him to drive them is the WORST of all possible actions she could have taken. He's freaking WOLVERINE. Obviously the bad guy mutant gene splicers are going to be watching him 24/7.

I don't care that somehow she has been in communication with Xavier. Xavier can't help them. Go directly to North Dakota. Do not wait for anyone, especially for Logan. Get there as quickly as possible.
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03-23-2017 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranberry Tea
The whole premise of John Wick 2 doesn't make much sense (semi-spoiler?)

Spoiler:
There's an elaborate code of honor that these international assassins take very seriously, but somehow the Italian gangster guy double-crosses JW and there's no repurcussion from the league of assassins? Like, you'd think he'd get booted out of the club for that.

Also, if you plan on double-crossing your assassin, does it make sense to pick the most legendary, unstoppable assassin in the world instead of one of dozens of generic off-brand guys who are littered all over the place?
Also:

The guy hires JW because assassinating his sister is a near impossible task and only the legendary Neo could possibly hope to pull it off. But he just sneaks into her hot tub room with minimal effort and waits for her to show up. Then she just kills herself. Seems to me that lots of people could have managed that.
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03-23-2017 , 10:53 PM
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back to the future films:

how come marty's parents aren't freaked out that their son looks and sounds identical to "calvin klein"???

he was the dad's best friend and the mom had a massive crush on him, yet what 20yrs later they don't notice their son is 100% identical?
I'm convinced that George figured the whole thing out. He obviously couldn't say anything to Marty before 1985 for fear of ruining the timeline. But as soon as BTTF3 ends and Marty comes home, I imagine he and his dad have a very intense conversation.
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03-24-2017 , 08:57 AM
I would struggle to remember how someone I met for a week 20 years ago looked.
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03-24-2017 , 09:25 AM
lol "someone".

how about the only person in high school who befriended you and happened to set into motion the plan which led to you marrying the women of your dreams?

or the person you had a major crush on and had the experience his mother shared with him.

not exactly a random brief encounter.

and ftr I can remember clearly all kinds of ppl I knew in high school many of whom I knew way less intimately than they knew him.


matt,

I like that and am going to go with ur theory as well
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03-24-2017 , 09:36 AM
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lol "someone".

how about the only person in high school who befriended you and happened to set into motion the plan which led to you marrying the women of your dreams?

or the person you had a major crush on and had the experience his mother shared with him.

not exactly a random brief encounter.

and ftr I can remember clearly all kinds of ppl I knew in high school many of whom I knew way less intimately than they knew him.


matt,

I like that and am going to go with ur theory as well
fair enough.

I know that I'd struggle to recognize pretty much all the people from high school if they walked past me now as their 14-16 year old selves. Including girls I had a "one week crush" on.

Remembering they wouldn't have seen him for 30 years (though to be fair they would obviously started recognizing him 5ish years earlier as a younger Marty). I don't think there were any photos taken of him either to help with any memories. I'm only at 20 years since high school. I can't imagine things would improve in the next 5ish years.

Maybe you've got a better memory than me.
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03-24-2017 , 10:08 AM
I def could understand not recognizing random ppl u barely knew, but what about ppl u were close with and or had life defining experiences with?

surely there must be some ppl from 20-30 years ago who u would recognize immediately if they showed up looking exactly like they did back when u knew them.

cuz thats the other thing, it's not like marty has aged he looks just like he did when they knew him that has to ring some bells.

obv it's a lil different since they've known him since birth and he wouldn't start looking identical until maybe 14+ but I still think it's highly unlikely and a giant plot hole.

and yet it's still one of my fav films series and I'll always love them.
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03-24-2017 , 10:29 AM
The guys I would recognize would be the ones I was friends with for years. And a lot of that is because I saw most of them after high school as well.

I can't imagine recognizing people I knew for a short time (like a week). Even important events.

I'm pretty confident that if I walked past my first gf from high school I would not recognize her (we went out for 3 months or so).
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03-24-2017 , 10:38 AM
wow that's insane to me.
did u have like 100 gf after her?

I can picture the face of most of the girls I hooked up with (BJ+) and while I probably wouldn't recognize any of them now as they've grown older and look different, I'm pretty sure if I saw them as they looked when we hooked up I would recognize them.

and there is no way I could forget my first ever gf.
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03-24-2017 , 11:38 AM
I mustn't be good with faces then. I've only had a handful of gf (been with the same girl since I was 20), so that's not the problem. 20+ years is a long time.

Maybe I have the Barney problem. Only recognize them when they bend over.
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03-24-2017 , 11:57 AM
lololololol never heard that one before.
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03-24-2017 , 12:30 PM
They probably can't even conceive of the possibility since time travel isn't even a thing (as far as they're aware). The thought never even enters their mind. Not unrealistic at all.
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03-24-2017 , 02:57 PM
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

The way the erasing is done is that your brain gets mapped at the office, and then the erasers come in at night and do the erasing of all the memories that were previously mapped.

After Joel get's his head mapped, he goes home and has a conversation with his neighbor about Clementine. When the erasing begins, they erase that specific memory, but there's no way they would've known about that memory because it was never mapped at the office.
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03-24-2017 , 07:08 PM
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They probably can't even conceive of the possibility since time travel isn't even a thing (as far as they're aware). The thought never even enters their mind. Not unrealistic at all.

I'm not saying they would understand why or think it was a result of time travel, I just think they might one day be like gee honey does marty remind u of anyone?
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