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04-10-2016 , 04:38 PM
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He didn't have any bacteria to start with. I assume he jumpstarted the bacteria using human **** as fertilizer. He had more **** to work with. Problem solved.
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04-20-2016 , 05:06 PM
I've seen The Godfather a few times and until people specifically pointed it out for me, have never noticed the one bad punch out of an amazing movie, in an otherwise good scene. Every other kick or punch in that scene looks fine as well upon closely watching it.
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04-20-2016 , 10:58 PM
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I certainly agree about oldboy and especially infernal affairs as examples.

However Heat is probably the best remake in history. The original was a great idea but lowsy casting and execution, while the remake was close to perfection
The Departed was good though.

I thought the Oldboy remake was ok. Brolin is pretty much always awesome in everything he does. Not saying it was on par with the Japanese original though, and definitely the original didn't need to be remade.
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05-17-2016 , 01:28 AM
looper.

the entire premise of the film is that murder is so impossible in the future that they literally have to send ppl back in time in order to have them killed.
it's the conceit on which the entire plot is based.

and yet JGL/Bruce's wife is just causally shot and killed in the future prompting Bruce to travel back in time and try and save her.

methinks that is a plot hole large enough to fit a worm hole in.
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05-19-2016 , 02:28 PM
I completely agree with regards to Looper but I still enjoyed the he'll out of it.
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05-19-2016 , 05:11 PM
^Oh hell yeh! I don't care about plot holes when it comes to sci fi. I just accept what happens.

From memory, there's not too many recent blockbuster sci-fis that have come out.

I mean....Looper, Inception, .... obviously i'm missing some....but as far as big box office successes, these two are the only ones that come to mind right now (i'm no expert lol).
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05-19-2016 , 05:23 PM
*cough* Star Wars *cough*
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05-19-2016 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by petesgotaces
From memory, there's not too many recent blockbuster sci-fis that have come out.

I mean....Looper, Inception, .... obviously i'm missing some....but as far as big box office successes, these two are the only ones that come to mind right now (i'm no expert lol).
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*cough* Star Wars *cough*
Just from last year I would also add Jurassic World, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay, and The Martian as big sci fi box office successes as well.
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05-19-2016 , 08:34 PM
oh ya I loved looper as well just thought that was pretty ridic plot hole.
it was also totally unnecessary, they could have had the exact same film without the stupid future love story motivation.

him just not wanting to die and wanting to come back and stop the rainmaker would've been enough.

whatever.
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06-04-2016 , 04:34 AM
The biggest plot hole of minority report is always missed, even by people who hate it. The entire conflict is a plothole.

Tom Cruise "proves" the precogs aren't 100% accurate by not committing a murder even though he was said to be pre-destined to commit one. But so what? Every single murder the pre-cogs predict is stopped, they are right 0% of the time, and this never crashes pre-crime. So OK I will assume the explanation to be

"The pre-cogs are always right as long as there is no interference based on their pre-cognition visions"

But once they show Cruise the visions, there is no reason why he cannot stop himself, just like he stops the criminals he arrests. His not killing the guy proves nothing either way, it is reasonable to except that once he saw the visions of the murder that the outcome is changed.
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06-04-2016 , 04:42 AM
In, "Angels in the Outfield", Ranch Wilder remarks that The White Sox have the heart of the order due up in the 9th. (which translates to the 3,4, & 5 hitters)

Eventually the conflict resolves with the B/L 2 out situation, which would mean the #8 hitter is the batter. Hit Or Die Kesey is clearly not an 8th place hitter, he's huge and everyone acts like he's the most dangerous hitter ever.
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06-04-2016 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
The biggest plot hole of minority report is always missed, even by people who hate it. The entire conflict is a plothole.

Tom Cruise "proves" the precogs aren't 100% accurate by not committing a murder even though he was said to be pre-destined to commit one. But so what? Every single murder the pre-cogs predict is stopped, they are right 0% of the time, and this never crashes pre-crime. So OK I will assume the explanation to be

"The pre-cogs are always right as long as there is no interference based on their pre-cognition visions"

But once they show Cruise the visions, there is no reason why he cannot stop himself, just like he stops the criminals he arrests. His not killing the guy proves nothing either way, it is reasonable to except that once he saw the visions of the murder that the outcome is changed.
I may be wrong, but wasn't there a % given from the precogs of the murder that was predicted to take place? I seem to remember something like that...
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06-04-2016 , 12:23 PM
Another one from Godfather (apologies if this was already brought up):

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Why did Michael think killing all the family dons in the end would solve anything? Doesn't change the fact that they all still got the rest of their families around that can step up. Hell, half the movie is literally about the Corleone family stepping up when Vito got shot, so why wouldn't that happen with the other families? Also, I know the Corleones moved in the end to escape blowback, but will the other families really never find them? They found Michael alone in Sicily, how hard could finding a whole family be? The Baptism scene is legendary, but Michael's "plan" behind it seems clunky...
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06-04-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I may be wrong, but wasn't there a % given from the precogs of the murder that was predicted to take place? I seem to remember something like that...
No. It was understood that if the precogs gave a vision it was 100% going to happen unless there was intervention from precrime. Later it is revealed that sometimes the pre-cogs disagree on a vision 2 to 1. These disagreements are covered up so that no one knows there is a flaw in the system. When Tom Cruise learns of the coverup he tries to break back into precrime to find his "minority report" Eventually he learns he doesn't have one but manages to not commit the murder he is destined to commit... thus "disproving" precrime.

I contend this 1 action does not disprove precrime, because his entire backstory is about how he prevents these predestined crimes. I see no logical difference why it should change things if it's his own crime that he is preventing.
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06-05-2016 , 08:34 AM
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Another one from Godfather (apologies if this was already brought up):

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Why did Michael think killing all the family dons in the end would solve anything? Doesn't change the fact that they all still got the rest of their families around that can step up. Hell, half the movie is literally about the Corleone family stepping up when Vito got shot, so why wouldn't that happen with the other families? Also, I know the Corleones moved in the end to escape blowback, but will the other families really never find them? They found Michael alone in Sicily, how hard could finding a whole family be? The Baptism scene is legendary, but Michael's "plan" behind it seems clunky...
There's no plot hole here. You're just misinterpreting what the scene represents.
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06-05-2016 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KermitTheCowbell
Another one from Godfather (apologies if this was already brought up):

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Why did Michael think killing all the family dons in the end would solve anything? Doesn't change the fact that they all still got the rest of their families around that can step up. Hell, half the movie is literally about the Corleone family stepping up when Vito got shot, so why wouldn't that happen with the other families? Also, I know the Corleones moved in the end to escape blowback, but will the other families really never find them? They found Michael alone in Sicily, how hard could finding a whole family be? The Baptism scene is legendary, but Michael's "plan" behind it seems clunky...
Lol, no. It's perfect. I wouldn't want to change a thing, and I dare you to try to improve upon it.
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06-05-2016 , 01:19 PM
LOL, challenge totally not accepted. Just saying Michael's plan was a little...idk, I'll stop now.
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06-15-2016 , 09:41 AM
Panic Room

The burglars fill the panic room with propane, so Jodie Foster decides to light it on fire and stay low to the ground to let it burn off above them....except propane is heavier than air.
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06-18-2016 , 10:58 AM
I may have mentioned this one before can't remember but it def fits the title of thread as it is not only a great movie but the greatest film franchise of all time.

in the 3rd Bourne film they invent a back story that jason and nikki used to be lovers.
it's clearly just lazily thrown in so they can have a romantic angle but it makes absolutely zero sense given the way the two interacted in the previous films.

its a minor nit and doesn't detract from the film imo but it just reinforces how idiotic Hollywood is with their overwhelming obsession with having a romantic angle to every movie.

god forbid the dude just focus on figuring out his past and escaping the full power and resources of the most powerful military apparatus in the world which is trying it's hardest to exterminate him.....

nope gotta make sure he's distracted by a LAAAAAADY.
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06-18-2016 , 04:20 PM
Didn't they insert that to giver HER a motivation for helping Bourne?


In the previous movie, of course, she'd been totally fine with killing him. And in the first, she barely knew who he was.


But suddenly she's willing to put herself on a govt kill list and live the rest of her short life on the run in constant fear in order to maybe help some dude who doesn't even remember banging her in the back room of a safe house (NFW a remorseless killing machine like Bourne was taking her on long moonlit strolls past the Rialto unless it involved dumping a body, maybe hers, in the canal; it was hot & dirty sex someplace convenient with no talk or snuggling after).
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06-19-2016 , 10:49 AM
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I may have mentioned this one before can't remember but it def fits the title of thread as it is not only a great movie but the greatest film franchise of all time.

in the 3rd Bourne film....
LOL
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06-19-2016 , 05:47 PM
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Didn't they insert that to giver HER a motivation for helping Bourne?


In the previous movie, of course, she'd been totally fine with killing him. And in the first, she barely knew who he was.


But suddenly she's willing to put herself on a govt kill list and live the rest of her short life on the run in constant fear in order to maybe help some dude who doesn't even remember banging her in the back room of a safe house (NFW a remorseless killing machine like Bourne was taking her on long moonlit strolls past the Rialto unless it involved dumping a body, maybe hers, in the canal; it was hot & dirty sex someplace convenient with no talk or snuggling after).

ya pretty hilariously lol.
but imo having her help him was just a way to introduce a romantic angle.

it was obv super unnecessary on both fronts but whatever still GOAT.
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06-19-2016 , 05:49 PM
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LOL
can't wait to hear what you think is a better franchise.

Bourne films are the greatest action films and it's not particularly close.

the 1st n 3rd films are truly elite and the 2nd n 4th are good fun.

hoping the 5th stays true to the formula and doesn't drag down the overall quality of the franchise.

the Bourne legacy gets way too much hate, I quite liked it and while it obv wasn't as great as the first 3, I thought renner was awesome and the story was quite clever imo.

plus all the stuff in Alaska was awesome.
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06-19-2016 , 06:14 PM
I love three of the mission impossibles and a few fast and furious's
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06-19-2016 , 07:40 PM
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can't wait to hear what you think is a better franchise.
How about James Bond, Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit to name three for starters. I can go on if you'd like.
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