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08-10-2014 , 05:57 AM
I just saw the movie "Deliverance" on T.V., hadn't seen it for a long time. Don't know how many here have seen it being it came out in 1972.

Something has always bothered me about that movie. When Ed (Voight) is trying to kill the 2nd hillbilly with his bow & arrow & has a hard time letting the arrow fly (we have already seen this when he tried to shoot a deer earlier in the movie)......the hillbilly has a rifle & turns & see's him & they fire at about the same time.

We think he missed the hillbilly because he starts walking toward Ed with his rifle pointed at him to kill him.....& all Ed has time to do is go into a fetal position. But then the rifle gradually lowers until its pointed at the ground & a harmless shot just careens off the ground....& then we see that Ed hit him in the chest & it just took a bit for him to drop & die.

But then we see that Ed is shot with an arrow which goes thru his side with one end sticking out of each side. He only has fired one arrow & u can see in the start of the scene that he has the arrow he is notching & only one other which is solidly in an arrow holder. There are no other people around.

I've decided what happened.....& it seems to be almost astronomical for it to happen. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

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08-10-2014 , 07:23 AM
He fell on the arrow.
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08-10-2014 , 12:29 PM
Yeah that scene bothered me for a long time but I saw it recently and I think he just fell on an arrow.

The scene seems a bit overly convoluted, though.
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08-10-2014 , 06:20 PM
Not sure what the confusion is, he fell on the arrow. Seems pretty simple.
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08-10-2014 , 08:44 PM
here's one from one of my all time favs:

Walter pulls a piece on smokey for allegedly committing a lane foul.
smokey reports the incident and the league commissioner calls the dude to say obv it violates all kinds of bylaws etc, but then they're still advanced to the semis and that whole incident is never referenced again.

how were they not disqualified not to mention kicked out of the league?
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11-10-2014 , 03:42 PM
In Ace Ventura he finds a diamond in the dolphin tank then realizes it came from their AFC Championship ring and was one of the players on that team. By the end of the movie we find out it was Ray Finkle's ring, and that Ray Finkle has had a sexual reassignment and is now Detective Lois Einhorn. Lois Einhorn, as a woman trying to keep her past identity hidden, does not and obviously would not ever wear her old football ring for any reason ever.

But when she went to go steal the dolphin she put her ring on. Yeah.

I've probably seen this film 30 times or so and it just occurred to me how far-fetched this is. I suppose I can buy that she put it on as some ceremonious thing but I just don't get it. She was also there with many other people (dolphins are heavy yo) and so she would risk them finding out her past identity. Or, they already knew her past identity.... whatever man.
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11-10-2014 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
In Ace Ventura he finds a diamond in the dolphin tank then realizes it came from their AFC Championship ring and was one of the players on that team. By the end of the movie we find out it was Ray Finkle's ring, and that Ray Finkle has had a sexual reassignment and is now Detective Lois Einhorn. Lois Einhorn, as a woman trying to keep her past identity hidden, does not and obviously would not ever wear her old football ring for any reason ever.

But when she went to go steal the dolphin she put her ring on. Yeah.
****. Now I hate this movie
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11-10-2014 , 04:17 PM
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In Ace Ventura ...
great movie?
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11-10-2014 , 04:18 PM
Yeah. Few people realize David Mamet co-wrote the screenplay.

Last edited by A-Rod's Cousin; 11-10-2014 at 04:25 PM.
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11-10-2014 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
In Ace Ventura he finds a diamond in the dolphin tank then realizes it came from their AFC Championship ring and was one of the players on that team. By the end of the movie we find out it was Ray Finkle's ring, and that Ray Finkle has had a sexual reassignment and is now Detective Lois Einhorn. Lois Einhorn, as a woman trying to keep her past identity hidden, does not and obviously would not ever wear her old football ring for any reason ever.

But when she went to go steal the dolphin she put her ring on. Yeah.

I've probably seen this film 30 times or so and it just occurred to me how far-fetched this is. I suppose I can buy that she put it on as some ceremonious thing but I just don't get it. She was also there with many other people (dolphins are heavy yo) and so she would risk them finding out her past identity. Or, they already knew her past identity.... whatever man.
ahhhh...

but she isn't Lois Einhorn... Finkle is impersonating Lois Einhorn.

all is well in the universe once again!
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11-10-2014 , 05:51 PM
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great movie?
yes.
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11-10-2014 , 06:02 PM
rbk, have you ever seen a movie you didn't love? It seems like you love every movie you see.

My wife is like that. She watches every movie and they all have a bottom range of "it was OK"
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11-10-2014 , 06:07 PM
I've seen tons of movies I didn't like.
pretty much every super hero film, or mindless action flick.
I'm actually decently hard to please when it comes to movies, but I also LOVE great movies, and ace Ventura is ****ing great.

if u read my posts tho u will see I do hate some movies (ie: the counselor)

i also have a very eclectic taste in films.
kubrick and coen are two of my fav directors ever, but alongside fargo, TBL, NCFOM etc and all of kubric's films i think dumb and dumber is one of the GOAT.

but I'm also very good at knowing which movies I won't like and avoiding them, so I tend to see more movies I'm a fav to enjoy.

tho i am often forced to watch a movie i am almost sure is going to suck, like anchorman 2 or dumb n dumber to.
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11-10-2014 , 06:15 PM
I just wont watch a movie that sucks... I just won't do it.

I'll walk and eat the money before subjecting my brain to some avoidable drivel.

not that all drivel should be avoided...
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11-10-2014 , 06:33 PM
ya i generally won't go to a movie in the theatre unless i'm super excited to see it.
i did get dragged to the avengers and fell asleep like 30mins in.

i will give more movies a shot at home ( i have a pretty sick set up at home so its great for movies) but i'm pretty quick to give up on a movie i don't like.

i did pay ****ing money to see the godamn counselor in theaters.
that was one of the most disappointing films (in terms of my personal expectations) i can recall in a long time.
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11-10-2014 , 06:56 PM
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ya i generally won't go to a movie in the theatre unless i'm super excited to see it.
i did get dragged to the avengers and fell asleep like 30mins in.

i will give more movies a shot at home ( i have a pretty sick set up at home so its great for movies) but i'm pretty quick to give up on a movie i don't like.
I'm a lot like that. I pretty much know what I will and won't like before I watch it. And I always know in the first 15 minutes if I like it or hate it.

Thanks to hanging around the Lounge talking about movies for years now I have tried to widen my movie taste with recommendations here but for the most part I despise the pretentious artsy fartsy crap many loungers drool over. Rarely am I proven wrong when trying to satisfy my own tastes and preferences.
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11-10-2014 , 10:25 PM
Not a plot hole and not a movie but it bugs me that Pinkman drove that POS car the whole time during BB.
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11-10-2014 , 10:31 PM
A) some people don't care about cars

B) he had no reportable income for much of the show, so would've looked pretty suspicious if he rocks up in a nice car
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11-11-2014 , 05:18 AM
Exactly. Driving a nice car would have been a total Nicky Barnes move. "The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room".
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11-11-2014 , 11:31 AM
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Exactly. Driving a nice car would have been a total Nicky Barnes move. "The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room".
Andrew dice clay?
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12-29-2014 , 08:32 PM
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12-29-2014 , 09:45 PM
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12-30-2014 , 08:32 AM
The whole premise of Alien 3.

It is supposedly a mining refinery run by felons in the middle of nowhere.
So in a glaxy of over-abundance of basically anything - it would have to be pretty farking rare thing to want to refine - q.e.d. its valuable. But, instead of paying people to refine this important stuff, they build a huge prison in the middle of nowhere to take advantage of slave labour.

So if it is valuable - you would not leave it to criminals.
If it is not valuable - why bother mining it - just leave the prisoners to rot.

Or even, in a world where you can cyrogenically freeze people for long-distance travel - surely you just cyro-comatose the mofoprisoners into storage somewhere guarded....yet apparently this is somehow a world where death penalty is not ok yet some how prison slave labour hire is cool - what a hair splitting convenient moral system that is.

And falling for the same Alien hitchhiker trick.
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12-30-2014 , 08:44 AM
um you do realize that throughout history slaves have been used to mine extremely valuable resources right?

it's not like you need skilled labor to work the mine, are you familiar with the diamond industry?
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12-30-2014 , 12:27 PM
Not sure if mentioned Before

Batman Begins The device that they smuggle into the city is a big microwave that instantly turns water into vapor, yet it has no impact on human beings, who are made up of mostly water.
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