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Old 06-23-2017, 11:51 AM   #24926
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

The last time I watched The Wall, it just seemed so depressing.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:17 PM   #24927
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I'm pretty sure I would see it for free, if for nothing else than to be able to write a funny (hopefully) post for you guys to read about how bad it was.
I may have to go see it. I've never seen a transformers movie, but it's directed by the guy who did one of the greatest flicks of the millennium, so how bad could it be?
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:26 PM   #24928
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...Bad Boys 2??
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:28 PM   #24929
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Wonder Woman

A solid entry into the ever expanding and over-saturated market of superhero movies. The makers of this film clearly had an agenda, but were very adept and able at expressing their ideals without compromising the movie. The film is more about trying to stop war than creating it, and how maybe a woman is needed to accomplish that goal (more on that later).

We meet Diana Prince (played by the gorgeous and talented Gal Gadot) in Paris, as some sort of art curator at the Louvre, and she gets a package from Wayne enterprises that we saw in Batman vs Superman. A picture is in there of her from years prior, and it triggers her memory. The entire movie is a flashback to remember that photo, but we quickly forget about that fact and are swept up into the world of Diana.

We start in the imaginary land of Themyscira, a place in the amazon that is shielded from the rest of the world. It is inhabited by all Women (I capitalize 'Women' on purpose), and all of them are strong, powerful warriors. Diana is a child, and there is some bickering between her mother Hippolyta (played by Connie Nelson) and her Aunt Antiope (played by Robin Wright) as to whether to train Diana to be a warrior. Of course she ends up getting trained, and becomes...surprise surprise...the greatest warrior they've ever seen. There's some stuff about a god killer weapon, and some neat gadgets including the cheesy lasso of truth and a sword that acts as a great object of comedic effect later in the movie.

Flash forward to a few years later, and a plane crashes with the dashing Steve Trevor (played by Chris Pine) in their bubble of a world, and the Germans are close behind. A fantastic beach battle sequence follows, and unfortunately that was probably the highlight of the action. This sequence was breathtakingly beautiful in it's choreography, and showcased the Amazonians in full bad-ass mode. Afterwards, we get a lull in action as Diana learns a bit about the world, and about men. Steve is the first man she has ever seen, and when asked if they all look like that, he responds very cleverly 'Well, I'm above average.'

She ends up going to the real world with Steve to try and stop World War I. This is where the movie starts to go downhill a bit, as I had trouble buying the mythology when it tied into such real events. Diana thinks that it is the God of War (Ares) who is responsible for the war and therefore her mission is to stop Ares, and thus the war. There's some talk about the need for war vs the quest for peace, but I just didn't buy into her innocence. When we met her as a child, all she wanted to do was learn how to fight, and then when we see her grown up, all of a sudden she understands that she really desires peace. I didn't see any arc to her character there.

There's sort of two missions in the movie. One is to stop some chemical weapon makers, and the other is to stop Ares, and while the two are connected, I found it quite distracting to deal with the real world problem of agent orange with the superhero world problem of a God of War. I just couldn't buy into both stories at the same time.

Anyway, they gather the typical band of misfit followers, and off they go to the frontline of the war. There's a trench battle sequence that I found a little silly, as somehow the Germans only seemed to be shooting at Diana (who has the ability to block bullets btw), and so everyone else was free to run next to her and not worry about getting shot. They then infiltrate the German high counsel, to try and assassinate some bad guys who are trying to make the chemical weapon.

The third act has Diana face off against a typical Superhero Villain, with equal God like powers, and this part of the movie fell completely flat for me. It didn't have the look or feel of earlier action sequences of the movie, and the gravitas and importance of the fight was lost on me. It reminded me a lot of the final fight in the aforementioned Batman vs Superman, which I disliked.

Despite these criticisms, I would still recommend this movie. It goes down easy, and is easy on the eyes (did I mention Gal Gadot is absolutely gorgeous). It makes a strong statement that women should have roles in Superhero movies other than 'damsel in distress.' I don't think we will look back on this movie years from now and call it a classic, but for a cheap night out, you could do a lot worse than to watch this fun piece of pop culture.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:33 PM   #24930
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I may have to go see it. I've never seen a transformers movie, but it's directed by the guy who did one of the greatest flicks of the millennium, so how bad could it be?
Well, considering that he won the 2014 Razzie for Worst Director for his last Transformers movie....
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:37 PM   #24931
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I may have to go see it. I've never seen a transformers movie, but it's directed by the guy who did one of the greatest flicks of the millennium, so how bad could it be?
Pearl Harbor?

That movie was farther from the truth than Belushi's comment in Animal House.



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Old 06-23-2017, 02:28 PM   #24932
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The Wall, both the album and the movie, is a depressing, whiny mess with only a few good songs in it. I am a huge Pink Floyd fan but that is one of the most over-rated albums in all of rock.
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:38 PM   #24933
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Re: Broadcast News... I was 19 when I first saw this movie and, just like the Albert Brooks character, pretty sure I was in love with Holly Hunter. She was so cute.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:51 PM   #24934
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Just got back from WSOP... catching up on some reviews:

Wonder Woman (7.5), Baywatch (4.5), 47 Meters Down (5.5)
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:54 PM   #24935
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The Wall, both the album and the movie, is a depressing, whiny mess with only a few good songs in it. I am a huge Pink Floyd fan but that is one of the most over-rated albums in all of rock.
+1

Frequently tuneless too, unlike some of their previous albums which were wonderful. I was at school when it was released and soon got sick of friends playing it to me.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:02 PM   #24936
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Frequently tuneless too, unlike some of their previous albums which were wonderful. I was at school when it was released and soon got sick of friends playing it to me.
Agree completely. Relentlessly depressing.

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Old 06-23-2017, 10:33 PM   #24937
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David Fincher is directing World War Z... 2
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:35 PM   #24938
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why do people that offer up reviews of movies they have seen always feel the need to describe the plot/story... ad nauseam.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:00 PM   #24939
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Yeah, there is really no need to give us a book report...tell us what you liked and don't like about it, don't give a detailed synopsis
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Old 06-24-2017, 12:24 AM   #24940
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beauty and the beast (original) 7/10

Still the basic movie we all remember and liked or loved, but never noticed how sexist it is towards men. Gaston the hard working self made man is painted as a buffoon rapist, Belle is the girl who is just too good for everyone, and the Beast who was born into royalty and is a real ahole is loved and praised. Belle's father is also a failure buffoon who can't do anything right.

The lesson is all men are idiot rapists unless you are born into money, then you can do whatever you want.

Songs still pretty good.
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:27 AM   #24941
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I find this post-feminist critique of B and the B to be both perceptive and refreshing. Well done, pwns.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:13 AM   #24942
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Mother and I are going back to watch movies we've either never seen (me) or forgot about and want to see again (Mother). Usually 1 a week. Past weeks have been Bridge over the River Kwai (loooong, unintentional comedy), Brooklyn (charming), Driving Miss Daisy (holds up!), Race (meh), The Departed (had to stop and explain what was happening multiple times, <<Goodfellas)

One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) was this week.
God damn what a cast. A whole lot of omg that guy!
Nicholson really was a talent. Epic magnetism.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:01 AM   #24943
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beauty and the beast (original) 7/10

Still the basic movie we all remember and liked or loved, but never noticed how sexist it is towards men. Gaston the hard working self made man is painted as a buffoon rapist, Belle is the girl who is just too good for everyone, and the Beast who was born into royalty and is a real ahole is loved and praised. Belle's father is also a failure buffoon who can't do anything right.

The lesson is all men are idiot rapists unless you are born into money, then you can do whatever you want.

Songs still pretty good.
Belle is hardly heroic or anything. She's just a pretty, sweet, good girl. She's the prize. It's hardly a feminist tale.

The class issue is interesting though. The father is like a bumbling peasant. Good natured, kind of pathetic, but he's cool because he knows his place. Gaston is the striving nouveaux riche. The Beast is an aristocrat. There's something like this in a lot of Shakespeare where there's criticism of aristocracy at the first look, but anyone who ends up acting noble, usually has noble blood. If this were Shakespeare, they would have discovered at the end that Belle's real parents were aristocrats. (Maybe they did. It's been a long time since I've seen it. )
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While we're on the subject of Disney cartoons and feminism though I will offer my criticism of the oft repeated feminist criticism that it's misogynist that so many Disney villains are women. I think that happens in movies directed at very young children more because a powerful male villain is too scary for very young children. Many of the male villains in these cartoons are weak like in The Lion King and Aladdin.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:54 PM   #24945
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Really liked Silence. I get that the length turned a low of viewers away, but the gorgeous visuals are worth the price of admission, as is the moral quandary at the heart of the film that left me a with much to think about.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:59 PM   #24946
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I think Disney just follows the plot of the fairy tale source material. I'm not sure if there's any real effort to emphasize female villains.
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Old 06-25-2017, 02:31 AM   #24947
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Really liked Silence. I get that the length turned a low of viewers away, but the gorgeous visuals are worth the price of admission, as is the moral quandary at the heart of the film that left me a with much to think about.
Really liked it too. Some people didn't like the length, but for me the movie sped by.

I try to keep most of my crackpot ideas off the forum, but I left the theater convinced that Kichijiro was Drunken Jesus.
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Old 06-25-2017, 02:55 AM   #24948
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Wonder Woman. Feels like they just decided to copy one of the better entries in the Marvel franchise, Captain America: The First Avenger, in order to prop up the flagging DCU.

I think the sign of a good modern superhero movie is when the 3rd act is the weakest, and that was definitely the case with this movie.

Got my 6 laughs, it passed the Bechdel test and the missus liked it - what more can you ask for on a date night at the movies?
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Old 06-25-2017, 09:13 AM   #24949
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Baby Driver - fun heist movie with some great car chases. It's more down to earth than other Edgar Wright movies but still has the visual flair and humour you'd expect. The narrative and character's decisions do get a bit messy towards the end but those are minor quibbles. It's almost like a musical as there's barely a moment when a song isn't playing. All in all just great fun.
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morgan
(the morgan project in german).
deep in the woods a few scientists are cloning and they are doing good. morgan is a female teenager/clone-droid. too bad a machine doesnt always run right.
a bit of a.i. meets species, a lot of thriller, a bit of a mess here and there, good enuff to be watched by this thread
a few very annoying scenes: if you can shoot somebody in a 2016 movie: effin do so, stop to hesitate!!
oh: directed by ridley scott jr.
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