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Old Yesterday, 12:34 AM   #24326
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

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Benjamin's mother accepts her life as a "wife" and seems happy..except for that really weird scene between her and Benjamin...when Benjamin's shaving and his mother wants to know where he goes at night. And she's wearing a negligee.
Told ya!!!!!!!!!

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I also can't believe how I never saw how completely self-absorbed and narcissistic Benjamin is. It's obvious, but I always saw myself in Benjamin some...probably because I saw it for the first time when I was about his age. Now, as man older then Benjamin's parents are in the movie, I see a privileged, mopey, young jerk. I still can relate, but holy ****, I hope I wasn't that self-absorbed at that age.
Also kinda toldja, but I go further with it and think he's clearly mentally ill.

Check out Lord Love a Duck for another '60s generational dividing line film.

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oh and I can't believe I never watched movies with the director commentary before.
the reason I still buy blu rays is I love the bonus features so much but I never checked out the commentary feature before (not sure why not) but after my millionth time watching michael clayton last night I decided to check out the commentary feature where tony n his brother/editor john basically narrate the entire film.

it's freaking awesome.

of course now I'm going to lose hundreds of hours of my life as I go thru my giant collection of blu rays and listen to every director commentary.

I'm esp looking forward to hearing fincher as he's been hilarious and super intelligent in every interview ever and I just really hope they have this feature on every blu ray cuz its def worth the price of the blu ray just for this feature and it will be so amazing hearing my fav directors talk about my fav films and will give a whole new perspective on films I've seen a hundred times.

I feel like a little kid on Christmas day.
Spinal Tap has an in-character one that is hilarious (there was also an out-of-character one that I think went out of print long ago, don't know current status).
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Old Yesterday, 09:04 AM   #24327
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

Michael Clayton I found pretty blah, oh another evil old corporation, never seen that before!
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Old Yesterday, 03:16 PM   #24328
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

But the move wasn't about an evil old corporation... that was merely the vehicle for the humanistic, or lack of humanity, drama to play out.
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Bruce Willis isn't a good actor in general, but it was a travesty to include him. The only reason he was there was to make it up to Disney for the Broadway Brawler fiasco, so it's not surprising that he phoned it in, but it's hard not to wonder what this movie would have been with a committed professional.
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you actually couldn't be more wrong.
rbk, I realize you are lolrbk, but you may want to take a look at these links:

A Companion to Indie Film

Reel Terror

The Fight over "Broadway Brawler"

The Best of Times for Bruce

Variety

Yes, Willis expressed interest in TSS, but it was because he had to pick something since he was forced to make the Disney movies as a result of the BB blowout. Willis didn't even want Shyamalan to direct, and fought for a more experienced director. Vogel held his ground on that one, but it wasn't because Willis was buddies with Shyamalan.

We can agree to disagree on whether or not Willis is a good actor, but you might want to know that he sides with me on that issue.

Here are what two 3rd parties you may recognize had to say about Willis in TSS:

Ebert: "The film opens with the mayor presenting him with a citation, and that moment precisely marks the beginning of his professional decline. He goes down with a sort of doomed dignity."

NYTimes: "For Mr. Willis, the movie continues the unpromising track he took with ''Mercury Rising,'' in which his character goes through hell to save the life of an autistic child. "
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

I think The Village in unjustly maligned.
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

The Graduate might easily be seen as the repression of middle-aged female desire. I love the ending, particularly the ways it plays upon the Harold Lloyd film Girl Shy, which I happened upon many years after first seeing The Graduate.

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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

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I think The Village in unjustly maligned.
I will always hate the final ten minutes, but everything up until then had me thinking it was his best film ever.
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Old Yesterday, 08:58 PM   #24333
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The Graduate might easily be seen as the repression of middle-aged female desire. I love the ending, particularly the ways it plays upon the Harold Lloyd film Girl Shy, which I happened upon many years after first seeing The Graduate.

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When I was in grad school, my film professor played this at the university cinema and hosted a Q&A on the film afterward. He was nobody special, he was just eager for a chance to discuss one of his favorite movies with anyone who loved it enough to show up late on a weekday to watch it.
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Old Yesterday, 10:31 PM   #24334
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I will always hate the final ten minutes, but everything up until then had me thinking it was his best film ever.
The reveal doesn't bother me...it's a disappointment, yes, but no answer was going to work that well anyway. I just love the old-fashioned-ness of it...and the performances in it are uniformly great, especially Howard and Hurt.

People complain about how "unrealistic" it is, but that's part of its charm, for me. It's not supposed to be realistic. It's a fable. It's Little Red Riding Hood for grown-ups. Yes, in the real world, you wouldn't send a blind girl on a quest through a wood with monsters in it. But this is a fairy tale. And I love that it's a fairy tale.

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Old Today, 12:25 AM   #24335
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

I'm an avid defender of The Village

Way better than Split, which I still don't understand how it garnered decent reviews.
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Old Today, 02:05 AM   #24336
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Re: Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

I liked Unbreakable and Signs a lot years ago, not sure if I still would now.

"BUT EARTH IS FULL OF WATER" is one of those really annoying things that people think of as a "plot hole" that doesn't actually matter. You could easily have used apple juice or made a quick reference to them focusing on arid areas or something if you wanted to get around that argument. It's inconsequential as to whether or not it's a good film.
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Old Today, 10:22 AM   #24337
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who truly enjoyed The Village. I always feel like I'm in the minority when it comes to this movie. With the exception of the last five minutes (which I'll address), the rest of the movie is a masterpiece in how to build suspense. The stories of the monsters, the atmosphere, the music with those haunting violins. The stellar performances by Bryce Dallas Howard, Joaquin Phoenix, William Hurt, Sygorney Weaver, Adrien Brody, Brendan Gleeson...I mean how could you ask for a better cast?

And let's not forget the actual showdown with the monster. The overhead shot of her walking through the woods with all the red flowers on the ground



Then the actual monster. Just standing there, panting. Then the chase. I remember being in the theaters gripping on for dear life to the handrests.



People love to **** on this movie for the ending. How unrealistic it was, how silly everything else in the movie turned out to be. While I agree with most of the points that people make about the ending, I don't think it detracted from it that much. Because we were living in colonial times for the entire movie and the movie was more about atmosphere than the actual details of the monster, I didn't feel cheated at all by the big reveal at the end.
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