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anyone see triple 9?

was super excited for it but I haven't heard ANYTHING about it and with that cast seems like it should have gotten more buzz if it was decent.

Rotfl. Post of the thread.

No matter how big we know it will have one perfectly engineered weak spot which will, with little effort, trigger total and catastrophic destruction.

I'd like to see a short film about the engineers who design these things and the ramifications of their continual failure.

Had several very good set-piece action scenes.

Plot was beyond lol-worthy. Also clear it was originally written to be set in LA then moved to Atlanta (probably for tax incentives) and they were too lazy to rewrite it. So we have an Atlanta that's overrun by Latino gangbangers and Russian mafiosa.

What he said. It's embarrassingly bad. I was excited for it. How can you miss with that cast? It played out like David Ayer lite by someone who has no ****ing idea how to make a movie.

The Death Star in Rogue One is the same Death Star from the original trilogy. From what I understand, it's a movie about the rebels that found the blueprints that were used to figure out the weakness.

The trailer was fantastic.

Could have told you Triple 9 would suck. Don't need to look much beyond the The Town-esque Lite feel to it, and the big name cast... with a February release date.

I mean I just figured with a cast like that and directed by hillcoat it had a good chance of being awesome.

I have no idea how release dates are correlated with what to expect from a film.

Jan-March is when they traditionally dump their stinkers:

1) Prestige products that turned out to not be good enough for an Oscar campaign (I Saw the Light)

2) Crowd pleasers/money makers that turned out not to be pleasing and unlikely to make money (Triple 9, Jane Got a Gun)


Some producers have figured out that a good action film (Deadpool) can have a long run in this timeslot due to low competition for screens.

In reading about a years' worth of this thread i have come to a conclusion. Everyone that defended the martian as a good movie gave points why, as in: good story, good acting, nerd humour, and not many more than that actually, but it isn't that far above par of a movie. Though, I think, definitely errs more on side of enjoyable.

Everyone that says it sucks avoids any descriptive whatsoever as to why.
I would bet money, being a gambler and an artist, that those people (subconsciously?) knew they were going to propound that very opinion before even seeing the movie. It reminds me of people judging music on it's indefatigable reputation, without a moment of reflection on what they've just heard.

Actually two conclusions. In order : 1. People hang on to preconceptions of art long after it's consumption. So is art's consumption not at all the end of it's digestion? and should people without taste buds even comment on things they cannot taste?
2. People without any hint one way or another about what art makes them feel should not comment on how they feel about it.

I don't think it was awful, but wouldn't call it better than decent either.

Woody Harrelson was excellent but has the least amount of screen time of the bigger names (except Reedus.) Needed more of him imo.

Honestly most of the rest of the cast under performed. Reedus and Paul weren't nearly as dynamic/memorable in this as they are in Walking Dead and Breaking Bad.

Ejiofor was fine but he didn't have quite the commanding presence he usually does.

Affleck was solid enough, can't say he under preformed. But I do think Reedus, Paul and Ejiofor all did, although it's possible that's what they were asked to do, it may not be their own faults.

Not sure where I stand on Winslet's performance. I will say this. If you watched the film not knowing she was in it, you may still have not figured out it's her by the end, you'll almost certainly have had to do a double or triple take to be sure.

Seemingly that would mean she gave a great performance, and yet I still found something off about it. I think she was just miscast. Kate Winslet is excellent within her wheelhouse, but perhaps not as much when she steps outside of it.

Here are some of the reasons why The Martian is a bad movie:

The story and character behaviors are not believable. It's OK for works of fiction to incorporate fantastic elements, and the premises often rest on them. That said, the behavior of the characters in the universe that is created needs to make sense within the context of that setting. This is not the case for The Martian. The characters behave in an unrealistic manner (for the context of the movie) which draws the viewer out of the immersion into the story. This makes the viewer less interested. The behavior of the NASA ground personnel in particular is a good example of this.

Many of the plot elements are overly contrived for dramatic effect. It's OK to do this if you can do it in a believable manner. The Martian fails to execute on that. The scene where Captain Disco goes out into space to grab Poop Potato's hand is a great example. This is clearly a scene they wanted to have in the movie because they thought it would look cool, so they tried to figure out a way to jam it in there, and eventually came up with the ham-fisted effort we saw on the screen.

The jokes fall flat. How many times are we subjected to the same joke about Captain Disco's disco music? It wasn't even funny the first time. There were many opportunities for them to make actual funny jokes, but they just kept repeating the same one over and over again.

etc

Uh,no.

Needs more cowbell instead of Spongebob screaming.

I'm wondering why the need to insert women into major roles in the Star Wars universe,it's always been for the fanboys.

It's like making Rob the major focus of the Kardashian clan.

Carol:

[x] period piece
[x] Blanchett
[x] social issue
[ ] Streep
[x] rich white people of today can feel superior to the laughably old-fashioned people
[ ] poor people were the bad guys
[x] injustice
[x] human triumph
[x] coming of age
[x] humorous line cuts immediately to a rockin' period-appropriate song and montage



It was alright though.

Because women are people? If you consider Ridley the star of 7 and whoever it is the star of this one, that's still only 25% of Star Wars films with a woman in the lead. Women are, IIRC, ~50% of the population.

Seemed to pay off pretty ****ing well too. "It's always been for the fanboys" is an absolutely asinine statement when E7 apparently was not for the fanboys (since it had a women in a large role, I guess?) yet is what, 2nd highest grossing movie ever? I think you can drop the fan"boy" thing at this point.

I think when people say the The Martian sucks, that's partly an overreaction to the praise heaped on the movie. It's a decent, entertaining film but hardly best movie of the year material.

Partially untrue... I said it wasn't good before the praise started coming in.

I wouldn't use the word "suck".

The End of the Tour

I'm only halfway through but I'm liking it a lot more than I thought I would. I am not a fan of DFW fiction, but I love his non-fiction. I am also a fan of Bret Easton Ellis (yes I'll admit that) and his harsh criticism of this movie I think was unfounded. BEE's argument was that they made DFW to be some angelic creature that he really wasn't, thus undermining the entire point of the movie, which is authenticity. I am not finding DFW to be that perfect person so far in it. I also read the DFW biography (Every Love Story is a Ghost Story) which accurately portrayed his shortcomings. It seems in the movie, this DFW (so far) admits to those as well.

Some of the Martian hate clearly stems from the anti-science undertones common in America.

Matt Damon iron manning it into space was beyond awful. I thought the rest was believable enough given the setting.

Flipside is that some of the love seems to stem from people excited to see a reasonably authentic treatment of science in a mainstream movie.

Totally agree that was awful and not in the book.

For sure

95% of sci-if movies these days are dystopian, post-apocalyptic, zombie plague affairs. I liked The Martian in large part because it had a refreshing, upbeat vibe.

That's where I'm at,I get all worked up to see a movie that's supposed to be all that and a bag of chips,and it lets me down,then I tend to be more critical.

TBH,the only hyped up movie I've seen that lived up to it in the recent past was MM:Fury Road.

I'm interested in Hardcore Henry,I may have to see it before the hype gets too bad.Maybe makes a difference.

It is what sci fi used to be.


Also, it was nice to see a lifetime of study and work pay off rather than the now standard trope of "None of the experts can solve this, so let's turn to a completely unqualified amateur."


Even the young guy who came up with the slingshot idea presumably had a PhD in Astrophysics.