Oh,that's not a sham at all,it won awards and has been cited as influence in many generations.

I never said an academy award is a be all,end all,but to dismiss getting this award or being nominated for any award as irrelevant is disigenious.


And damn few of the movies you list are considered the best movie of the year they were made, much less the decade they were in,which is what the discussion was about.


From the greatest film evar,"and that's all I got to say about that".

I agree with this and I think the Oscars are useful as a cultural litmus test. But as especially once you're 10 years removed from the films' release, they're essentially useless as a measure of quality.

And how could I forget Terry Gilliam in that list? I'd take any of his three 90s films over probably 35 of the 50 BP nominees that decade. And if you're not allowed to call Brazil (or Blue Velvet or Blade Runner, just to stay among the Bs) the best film of the 80s then I don't even.

Calm down imo.

Favorite movie that wasn't nominated for best picture?

Tough choice, but I'm going with one of my favorites (for much of my life it was my clear #1)

2001: A Space Odyssey

What are you talking about? We like the movie. You don't. Okay, fine. But to start going off on awards and stuff....it's just bizarre.

It is pretty strange that 2001 wasn't nominated since it was a huge box office and critical success, and Kubrick's previous film Dr. Strangelove was hardly conventional and nabbed a BP nod.

But Close Encounters wasn't nominated 10 years, either. Maybe it's a sci- fi thing.

Close Encounters blew goats, though.

I always defer on Close Encounters. I didn't see it until after I saw Raiders, E.T., Poltergeist (which is a Spielberg film afaic) and so I was aware of his tricks and too old to be in wonder of it.

But a lot of people love it. I just assumed it was one of those "have to experience it in the theater" movies.

I had mashed potatoes last night and once again thought of Close Encounters.

Was actually going to bring this up when talking about A Touch of Sin, but didn't.

I like Bobcat and wanted to like this but couldn't. I just can't get behind the revenge fulfillment fantasies when it strikes so close to home to modern day tragedies. It is certainly annoying to deal with some of the people shown in this movie, but blowing them apart just repulses me. It's especially unsettling when it's (imo) completely possible that something like this actually happens sometime in my lifetime.

I really enjoyed Why Don't You Play in Hell? (high recommend, especially for anyone who likes samurai, yakuza, or just Japanese films) which has similar mindless violence and deaths, but the realism is once removed so I was able to laugh along with the movie. God Bless America was too realistic and instead of laughing at some of the dark humor I was cringing.

lol eyefora,

one person said that someone they knew thought LoTM was best film of the 90s.

not anyone in this thread someone's friend...

the rest of us were simply saying how much we liked the film and weren't trying to rank it vs all the other great films.

then you came in and started talking nonsense and trying to argue something no one was saying.

Parallel - on Netflix. C-

I was really looking forward to this as its been advertised a lot lately here but have to say I don't think it was very good.

There were 1 or 2 moments that were great but I'd only give it 5/10

Oh yeah Birdman felt like a mix of Fight Club, Sunset Boulevard, and Boogie Nights. Though I found these 3 movies better.

Reminded me of Adaptation

Three Days of the Condor.

A little disappointed because my expectations were high. It was good though, like very professional.

B+

Ok then,fair enough, I'm trying to hook up with a couple of far chicks right now.
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I didn't see God Bless America as a revenge movie. To me it was more of a statement about the total lack of respect for anything decent in todays society.
I also think this was a reflection of the modern western world as a whole, not just in the USA. It's just that in America it's easier for someone to go off the rails like this because, let's face it, you have all the guns and your not afraid to use them.
Stole my parking space, I'm gonna shoot ya.
Played your music too loud, I'm gonna shoot ya.
Pissed me off at work, I'm gonna shoot ya.
This is not about revenge it's about the collapse of decency, the madness of the youtube generation and the frustration of an older generation who don't understand the IDGAF attitude of today.

IMO obv.

Yeah maybe revenge is not the best word, might just be semantics though. Imo he was getting revenge for people being so stupid and dumbing down our culture. Also his first contemplation of murder was revenge for his neighbors waking him up so to me that seemed to set the theme for the movie. Revenge might not be the best word but I can't think of anything more accurate. I don't think many people have had thoughts about cleaning up society's culture and making the world a smarter place, but I think everyone has had moments where they wanted to hit that obnoxious person who we have to deal with on a regular basis. This film is an iteration of that fantasy and taking revenge on people who make our lives more annoying than they need to be.

my real problem though was how realistic and possible the casually shown violence was. I don't shy away from casual violence like my previous example showed (hopefully), but I prefer if it's removed a bit from reality. Yakuza in kimonos fighting with katanas and automatic weapons as they pose for the smiling cameraman was amusing because it's so ridiculous.

To murder a girl in front of her school because she is a snob and stupid is just too close to home with real tragedies I grew up hearing about. It somehow managed to get worse from there.

Saw Whiplash last night. I thought the movie was great. While it wasn't the main point of the movie, I like that it shows people working extremely hard to try to be great as opposed to showing a genius being great naturally.

The ending of the movie was superb.

Maybe 'impotent frustration' is better than 'revenge'.
Take the high school girl for example. I don't think he shot her because she was a stupid snob, I think it was because she was a stupid snob who's dispicable behaviour was being promoted as something good.
She was being held up as someone that young kids should emulate, as his own daughter was doing.

I think it was the sheer frustration of being able to do nothing about that kind of behaviour except lash out at it.
And the fact that society as a whole was revelling in such scummy behaviour and copying it, was the straw that broke this particular camels back.
And it's not like the film was saying, 'the only way to deal with this is to murder someone', I think that the killing spree itself was also part of the reflection of the IDGAF society portrayed in the movie.

Again, just my take on it.

I'd have to disagree with the first part of that, but it really doesn't matter. The message of the movie was not what bothered me. It's just that no matter what I have trouble finding humor in a high school girl being executed after class and many other scenes in the movie.

Life Itself (Netflix Instant US)

Wow. This is a near universally acclaimed biographical documentary about Roger Ebert, and boy does it live up to its reputation. It also devotes a fair amount of time to his partner in crime, Gene Siskel. What a great documentary about a great film critic.

Leviathan (2014) Russian with English subs. I had been looking forward to this acclaimed film for months. The title refers mostly to Thomas Hobbes classic book in which he advocates for a powerful government that is as strong as sea monster or giant whale. The mayor of a small seacoast Russian town and his cronies want to acquire the land of , Koyla, an otherwise poor private citizen for a low price for "state purposes" by using the state's power of eminent domain. Koyla has had it in his family for decades and decides to fight it. The other key characters include his pretty wife, his young son, his Moscow lawyer friend, young son, his town friends, and the Church priests all of which become involved. It a visually beautiful film and well acted and carefully plotted and incisive. Within the movie there is a superb episode of a family/friends/children picnic with heavy drinking and target shooting with rifles where the viewer can anticipate all sorts of tragedies happening but the one that does. Surprisingly, I'm not going to recommend it to anyone else it since it is pretty bleak and depressing. You have to understand that is the typical Russian motif. I'm not even sure how to rate it.

A brief summary of what I watched last week:

Gone Girl: Fincher at his best, really catching and interesting, nevertheless found some plotholes, did not like some of the actings and even though is entertaining and well done I still find it lacks of some "thing" that I like movies to have. . Entrataining but nothing else, good for a sunday afternoon.

A Separation: Now THIS is the type of movie I like: threating deep subjects that concern us all human beings, showing a culture that is really different to what were used to on this side of the world, with a powerful story that keeps you wondering and makes you confront your own beliefs and values to judge whats going on in the picture and with great performances. I know is not for everyone but if youre into foreing movies and you have a broad taste this is a must watch: it will probably shock you. One of the best foreign movies Ive seen lately.

Also watched some uruguayan movies as well but nothing too spectacular to recommend to anyone from abroad.

Really enjoyed it. Really gets every emotion going at one point or another. Those scenes with Siskel are top lolz.

I have been meaning to see this since it came out, glad someone posted about it. I will definitely check it out.

Slightly related: Apparently Hard to Be a God finally has English subtitles which has me incredibly excited. This needs get released to dvd soon.



Actually watched the movie already despite understanding nothing, it's incredibly shot after incredible shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoyjleXFz0