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02-22-2015 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Malice's Attorney
Surprised Boyhood is that much of a favorite, Birdman seems like value no? What else?

Best Picture
Boyhood 1/14
Birdman 14/1
1 time

Current odds are:

Birdman 4/9
Boyhood 8/5
02-22-2015 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
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I thought he turned that girls offer down though. And her mentioning that he was constantly looking out the window and that he'd hid the money in the vent again lead me to believe he was still on guard.

I'd love to have just seen how they got him, not for a big showdown or anything but just because through the whole film he is shown to think very tactically and react quickly even under pressure, like when he stops to take of his boots before jumping in the river as they will weigh him down, then how he empties the bullet from the chamber that would have been wet then reloads to kill the dog etc. I just don't believe he's suddenly get sloppy and get killed by the Mexicans.
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
my post/explanation is shaded by my having read the book.
it goes into alot more detail wrt that whole situation.
If I may...

Spoiler:
Keep in mind that despite the same care and a near godlike (at minimum superior to Llewelyn) competence for survival and violence, Chighur, too, is in the end caught in an unexpected moment of injury. While he doesn't die as Llewlyn does, the point is the same. To think that a man can through sheer will avoid a disaster is what Chighur calls "vanity."

When Chighur kills Carson (Woody Allen), he lectures him on the foolish decisions that brought Carson to what will in seconds be his death. "Of what use was the rule if it brought you to this?" But contrast this with Tom Bell's increasingly frustrated realization that virtue has no connection to consequence. Tom Bell--and I would argue, Cormac McCarthy, and through extension the Coens--in effect answers Chighur's assertion with one of their own. In a world where no man can control his or her fate, the virtue of a choice--or, as Chighur calls it, "the rule"--may be the only thing worth holding on to.

This will make a lot more sense if you at minimum read the scene in the book where we find out more about how Llewelyn died.
02-22-2015 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Only Lovers Left Alive 2013

★★★★½

A fine piece of art, which makes up for a lack of narrative by giving us rich characters and themes. This has several themes, but the most obvious one is how art can sustain the spirit, when all else has gone. Hiddleston and Swinton are mesmeric and superb as the lovers who love down through the centuries, who are supported by both their memories (or nostalgia at least) and by what they do in the here and now.

Most intriguing is the back-story they hint at... for example all the vampires seem to be English, and they talk about past days when bodies floated in the Thames, yet they take pains to avoid even stopping over at London... Why?

Would definitely like to see more of this world. Clearly more Anne Rice than Twilight, thank goodness.
I bought this without seeing it....I will watch it this week. Jarmusch is one unique filmmaker.
02-22-2015 , 06:40 PM
Saw Birdman, pretty phenomenal. Will be shocked if it doesn't win Best Pic tonight. Well done to the guy who got in at 14-1. Entire cast was awesome esp. Keaton and Ed Norton. Cinematography was almost miraculous. It could have seemed gimmicky but I think it perfectly fit the mood of the film and the "play within a movie" framework.

As far as Birdman vs. Boyhood at tonight's Oscars, I think Birdman was the far superior film and deserves to win. Boyhood was overrated imo based on admiration for the perseverance and guts it takes a movie with the same cast over 12 years. And yeah seeing people age before your eyes was definitely unique. But as cinema there just wasn't that much there for me. I didn't find the main character that interesting. Had it been the same exact script filmed traditionally but with different actors playing Mason, would it have garnered all the acclaim?
02-22-2015 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I bought this without seeing it....I will watch it this week. Jarmusch is one unique filmmaker.
Haven't seen much Jarmusch, keep meaning to get to Dead Man.

I really liked Ghost Dog though.


Also about Only Lovers Left Alive... the soundtrack is great, I ordered it today after watching the movie.

Interested on your thoughts.

I like how Hiddleston seems sustained by his own art mostly, and partially by other art, and how Swinton seems sustained by him.
02-22-2015 , 06:58 PM
Only Lovers is made by the same guy who made Ghost Dog??? SOLD. Ghost Dog was terrific. I couldn't imagine it being good at all and actually rolled in laughter when I watched the trailer, but holy crap was that movie good.
02-22-2015 , 07:20 PM
Jarmush's 3 early films are incredible:

Stranger than Paradise
Down By Law
Mystery Train

Never really liked Dead Man
02-22-2015 , 07:31 PM
Saw Down By Law a long time ago, remember liking it and Tom Waits a lot.
02-22-2015 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Jarmush's 3 early films are incredible:

Stranger than Paradise
Down By Law
Mystery Train

Never really liked Dead Man
Will watch these 3
02-22-2015 , 07:49 PM
I have the complete jarmusch collection and have been watching him intently because... well... he's an incredible film maker.

Night on earth is another great film about different taxi drivers with different stories in different countries.

Limits of Control is a superb modern noir (in color) about the bourgeois nature of hollywood film makers version of spy/hitman movies. Its incredible if you can sit thru it.

Broken flowers is a wonderous movie about a mans layered past and his soulful search for his illegitimate son.
02-22-2015 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Jarmush's 3 early films are incredible:

Stranger than Paradise
Down By Law
Mystery Train

Never really liked Dead Man
I think that Jarmusch is pure genius and that deadman is his crown jewel.

It doesn't surprise me that this movie doesn't get as much love as it deserves as deadman is a very polarizing movie... not everyone buys into Catholicism mixed with native american spirituality as a basis for a movies plot.

Taking a spiritual journey with an average white accountant from Cleveland who is trapped in the spiritual world between life and afterlife because he doesn't fully comprehend that he is actually already dead is not really accessible to many. The train journey to deliver blakes spirit to his ultimate resting place is further complicated by a Zen spirit guide that prefers to be called Nobody, all the while he is hunted by the many evil spirits trying to return blake to the cold reality of afterlife of Hell.

Ultimately Nobody succeeds in avoiding the trappings of strict Catholic interpretation of afterlife and guides Blake's spirit back to the threshold of the great known and everafter.

Do you have any tobacco?

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02-22-2015 , 09:00 PM
I know that list posts are meh but thought I'd squeeze this in there before oscars. If you're looking for a few suggestions then here are all the 2014 films I would have given at least three stars out of four:

--title in BOLD CAPS means that I think most everyone will like it
--if it's not in bold then I think lots of people won't like it
--(a) animated, (d) documentary, (f) foreign language

01. The Grand Budapest Hotel
02. Jodorowsky's Dune (d)
03. Ida (f)
04. Calvary
05. The Tale of Princess Kaguya (a,f)
06. WHIPLASH
07. Boyhood
08. Birdman
09. Interstellar
10. Citizenfour (d)
11. Under the Skin
12. NIGHTCRAWLER
13. Starred Up (english but if possible use subtitles)
14. Two Days, One Night (f)
15. EDGE OF TOMORROW
16. Force Majeure (f)
17. GONE GIRL
18. THE IMITATION GAME

19. Locke

---this next group would get 2.5 stars, meaning my feelings were more mixed but it was still an overall thumbs up---
20. Pride; 21. The Battered Bastards of Baseball (d); 22. Song of the Sea (a); 23. The Babadook; 24. The Lego Movie (a); 25. How to Train Your Dragon 2 (a); 26. Selma; 27. Big Hero 6 (a); 28. Foxcatcher; 29. American Sniper; 30. Inherent Vice; 31. Particle Fever (d); 32. Life Itself (d); 33. Only Lovers Left Alive; 34. The Winter Soldier; 35. Mr. Turner; 36. Wild; 37. We Are the Best! (f); 38. The Trip to Italy; 39. Big Men (d); 40. Chef; 41. The Boxtrolls (a).

---a few I still haven't seen---
A Most Violent Year, A Summer's Tale, The Double, Frank, Goodbye to Language, The Internet's Own Boy, Joe, Leviathan, The Lunchbox, The Missing Picture, National Gallery, Noah, Nymphomaniac, Obvious Child, Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Stranger by the Lake

--and of all the 2014 movies I watched, the worst by far was Left Behind. It was a very bad movie.

--also does anyone know a great site that says whether a movie is available to stream on netflix and/or amazon prime, itunes, flixster, on-demand, HBOgo, etc? This is the best I've found but it's wrong all the time.


PS the oscars are lame!
02-22-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Empire Man


PS the oscars are lame!
That's what littlefeather thought.
02-22-2015 , 09:18 PM
I just saw a trailer for Insurgent. Seems like to me if the first one sucked there isn't much need for a sequel.
02-22-2015 , 09:18 PM
not to mention Redmayne

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02-22-2015 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Saw Birdman, pretty phenomenal. Will be shocked if it doesn't win Best Pic tonight. Well done to the guy who got in at 14-1. Entire cast was awesome esp. Keaton and Ed Norton. Cinematography was almost miraculous. It could have seemed gimmicky but I think it perfectly fit the mood of the film and the "play within a movie" framework.

As far as Birdman vs. Boyhood at tonight's Oscars, I think Birdman was the far superior film and deserves to win. Boyhood was overrated imo based on admiration for the perseverance and guts it takes a movie with the same cast over 12 years. And yeah seeing people age before your eyes was definitely unique. But as cinema there just wasn't that much there for me. I didn't find the main character that interesting. Had it been the same exact script filmed traditionally but with different actors playing Mason, would it have garnered all the acclaim?
Felt 100% the same way. Garbage outside of the uniqueness of the filming. Going to be annoyed if it wins best picture. I was surprised to see linklater as a dog though.
02-22-2015 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Empire Man
I know that list posts are meh but thought I'd squeeze this in there before oscars. If you're looking for a few suggestions then here are all the 2014 films I would have given at least three stars out of four:

--title in BOLD CAPS means that I think most everyone will like it
--if it's not in bold then I think lots of people won't like it
--(a) animated, (d) documentary, (f) foreign language

01. The Grand Budapest Hotel
02. Jodorowsky's Dune (d)
03. Ida (f)
04. Calvary
05. The Tale of Princess Kaguya (a,f)
06. WHIPLASH
07. Boyhood
08. Birdman
09. Interstellar
10. Citizenfour (d)
11. Under the Skin
12. NIGHTCRAWLER
13. Starred Up (english but if possible use subtitles)
14. Two Days, One Night (f)
15. EDGE OF TOMORROW
16. Force Majeure (f)
17. GONE GIRL
18. THE IMITATION GAME

19. Locke

---this next group would get 2.5 stars, meaning my feelings were more mixed but it was still an overall thumbs up---
20. Pride; 21. The Battered Bastards of Baseball (d); 22. Song of the Sea (a); 23. The Babadook; 24. The Lego Movie (a); 25. How to Train Your Dragon 2 (a); 26. Selma; 27. Big Hero 6 (a); 28. Foxcatcher; 29. American Sniper; 30. Inherent Vice; 31. Particle Fever (d); 32. Life Itself (d); 33. Only Lovers Left Alive; 34. The Winter Soldier; 35. Mr. Turner; 36. Wild; 37. We Are the Best! (f); 38. The Trip to Italy; 39. Big Men (d); 40. Chef; 41. The Boxtrolls (a).

---a few I still haven't seen---
A Most Violent Year, A Summer's Tale, The Double, Frank, Goodbye to Language, The Internet's Own Boy, Joe, Leviathan, The Lunchbox, The Missing Picture, National Gallery, Noah, Nymphomaniac, Obvious Child, Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Stranger by the Lake

--and of all the 2014 movies I watched, the worst by far was Left Behind. It was a very bad movie.

--also does anyone know a great site that says whether a movie is available to stream on netflix and/or amazon prime, itunes, flixster, on-demand, HBOgo, etc? This is the best I've found but it's wrong all the time.


PS the oscars are lame!
you are underselling CitizenFour. I cant imagine someone not loving it. Not only is it the most important film of last year, it plays like a great thriller.
02-22-2015 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
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I thought that it was because he couldn't let go of his wife and mother. His mother ends up giving away his location on accident. All of the major players in this movie have no family of any sort, or at least they aren't mentioned. Chigurh takes advantage of this weakness of Llewyn during their phone conversation, saying that he will kill Llewyn's wife if Llewyn doesn't give himself up, and the Mexican cartel takes advantage of this weakness also. Without his family, Llewyn would probably still be on the run and much more likely to get away.


I haven't read NCFOM but read a synopsis and it seems like Carson Welles is expanded on a bit. Not sure if it was this thread or the last one, but I asked about a line which always confused me in the movie where Carson and the boss have a conversation about how many stories the building they are in is. It's a very strange and seemingly out of place conversation. Apparently in the book it's expanded on that the elevator does not normally go to the boss's level, and it's impossible to get to that floor without a special code or something. This also explains the scene right before Chigurh kills the boss he takes the stairwell and blows the lock off the door. I guess it's just a bit of an easter egg for book readers.

I've tried to read the book but wtf at the lack of quotation marks.
Ha yeah his style of writing is definitely unique.

I try to avoid hyperbole when it comes to movies/music etc because there are so many people more qualified than I, but I am of the opinion that McCarthy is without parallel. Although his writing style lends itself to reading it as one continuous flow, if you slow down and read it closely, you'll find him incredibly poetic and descriptive. It's almost like reading in another language; he paints pictures with a dark, strange, absolute mastery of the English language.
02-22-2015 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Empire Man
I know that list posts are meh but thought I'd squeeze this in there before oscars. If you're looking for a few suggestions then here are all the 2014 films I would have given at least three stars out of four:

--title in BOLD CAPS means that I think most everyone will like it
--if it's not in bold then I think lots of people won't like it
--(a) animated, (d) documentary, (f) foreign language

01. The Grand Budapest Hotel
02. Jodorowsky's Dune (d)
03. Ida (f)
04. Calvary
05. The Tale of Princess Kaguya (a,f)
06. WHIPLASH
07. Boyhood
08. Birdman
09. Interstellar
10. Citizenfour (d)
11. Under the Skin
12. NIGHTCRAWLER
13. Starred Up (english but if possible use subtitles)
14. Two Days, One Night (f)
15. EDGE OF TOMORROW
16. Force Majeure (f)
17. GONE GIRL
18. THE IMITATION GAME

19. Locke

---this next group would get 2.5 stars, meaning my feelings were more mixed but it was still an overall thumbs up---
20. Pride; 21. The Battered Bastards of Baseball (d); 22. Song of the Sea (a); 23. The Babadook; 24. The Lego Movie (a); 25. How to Train Your Dragon 2 (a); 26. Selma; 27. Big Hero 6 (a); 28. Foxcatcher; 29. American Sniper; 30. Inherent Vice; 31. Particle Fever (d); 32. Life Itself (d); 33. Only Lovers Left Alive; 34. The Winter Soldier; 35. Mr. Turner; 36. Wild; 37. We Are the Best! (f); 38. The Trip to Italy; 39. Big Men (d); 40. Chef; 41. The Boxtrolls (a).

---a few I still haven't seen---
A Most Violent Year, A Summer's Tale, The Double, Frank, Goodbye to Language, The Internet's Own Boy, Joe, Leviathan, The Lunchbox, The Missing Picture, National Gallery, Noah, Nymphomaniac, Obvious Child, Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Stranger by the Lake

--and of all the 2014 movies I watched, the worst by far was Left Behind. It was a very bad movie.

--also does anyone know a great site that says whether a movie is available to stream on netflix and/or amazon prime, itunes, flixster, on-demand, HBOgo, etc? This is the best I've found but it's wrong all the time.


PS the oscars are lame!
Whiplash is one of those movies that gets universal acclaim, and everyone agrees is great, yet for some reason holds little interest for me. I may watch it eventually, but there is nothing about a movie about a sadistic music teacher that sounds appealing to me. The Oscar clip of JK slapping the kid in the face repeatedly did little to change my mind.
02-22-2015 , 11:39 PM
Whiplash is ok but very overrated. Was a sham to be nominated for best picture imo.
02-22-2015 , 11:52 PM
clyde, rbk: It's a pretty weak excuse on my part, I agree. Especially because it looks like the book can be read in one day and it's one of my favorite movies. I'll definitely give it another shot soon.
02-23-2015 , 10:42 AM
The first Transformers movie is on right now and I forgot that it's actually a pretty fun flick. I mean, yeah, I hate the shaky cam fights and I wish the robots weren't such complicated messes of metal, but hey, it's entertaining.
02-23-2015 , 12:22 PM
Pretty underwhelming Oscar telecast. Just so bland and mundane, hardly anything even made me chuckle.
02-23-2015 , 12:28 PM
Yeah. I watched a little over an hour because bet on birdman to win a couple awards, then realized it would be almost another three hours.... Amazingly it doesn't even wrap up in three, it ran from 8:30 until after 12 est, what a bore.
02-23-2015 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
If I may...

Spoiler:
Keep in mind that despite the same care and a near godlike (at minimum superior to Llewelyn) competence for survival and violence, Chighur, too, is in the end caught in an unexpected moment of injury. While he doesn't die as Llewlyn does, the point is the same. To think that a man can through sheer will avoid a disaster is what Chighur calls "vanity."

When Chighur kills Carson (Woody Allen), he lectures him on the foolish decisions that brought Carson to what will in seconds be his death. "Of what use was the rule if it brought you to this?" But contrast this with Tom Bell's increasingly frustrated realization that virtue has no connection to consequence. Tom Bell--and I would argue, Cormac McCarthy, and through extension the Coens--in effect answers Chighur's assertion with one of their own. In a world where no man can control his or her fate, the virtue of a choice--or, as Chighur calls it, "the rule"--may be the only thing worth holding on to.

This will make a lot more sense if you at minimum read the scene in the book where we find out more about how Llewelyn died.
Thanks, very good and interesting points.

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Watched Hunger Games:Mockingjay Part1 and while I am not a fan of the series anyway but this was awful, clearly the worst of the series so far.

They've obviously made it into 2 movies to cash in hundreds of millions but they could easily have fit this whole 2 hour film into 15 minutes and you wouldn't have missed anything important to the story line.

      
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