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07-22-2017 , 02:22 AM
One more for Alien.
07-22-2017 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Alien is better, but Aliens is a nearly perfect action movie. It is just that Alien is an even more perfect horror movie. Sometimes I would rather watch an action movie, however.
I'm like this with Terminator 1 and 2.
07-22-2017 , 04:20 AM
The Terminator is about as perfect as low budget b-movies get.
07-22-2017 , 05:43 AM
I liked Alien because it had a strong female villain without being misogynist about it.
07-22-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
I liked Alien because it had a strong female villain without being misogynist about it.
What makes you think the villain in Alien was female?
07-22-2017 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bip!
I always remembered Alien as >>> Aliens but maybe I need to watch Aliens again (it's been a long time)
Depends on what kind of mood you're in, imo. Both are 10/10 sci-fi classics.

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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Aliens was a very solid sequel. I have Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection on deck but I am expecting a quality dip as these are probably pure money grabs.
I actually enjoyed Resurrection as a weekend afternoon action flick; it has its moments. But yeah both are enormous disappointments.

Last edited by Cranberry Tea; 07-22-2017 at 09:35 AM.
07-22-2017 , 09:31 AM
It wasn't... it was a warrior.
07-22-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
What makes you think the villain in Alien was female?
That's true, none of us know how Ripley identifies. Shame, kioshk.
07-22-2017 , 02:41 PM
Ripley was the villain?
07-22-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranberry Tea
Depends on what kind of mood you're in, imo. Both are 10/10 sci-fi classics.



I actually enjoyed Resurrection as a weekend afternoon action flick; it has its moments. But yeah both are enormous disappointments.
Same. Alien 3 workprint is fascinating if you like things like Jodorowsky's Dune.

Alien Resurrection isn't close to the first two but is fine on its own. Fun and funny and some good action. I was mostly disappointed by there being no followup. At the time of release, there was a bit of hype because in all of the series, we'd never gone back to Earth.
07-22-2017 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Ripley was the villain?
Depends on who you're pulling for!
07-22-2017 , 03:48 PM
Alien Resurrection is a bad movie full of wonderfully styled ideas. Some are executed well (aliens figuring out how to escape their cell, whiskey cube, swimming scene), and some are abominations (newborn).
07-22-2017 , 03:55 PM
A USA Today reviewer has take offense that there are no people of color and very few women in Dunkirk:

The trio of timelines can be jarring as you figure out how they all fit, and the fact that there are only a couple of women and no lead actors of color may rub some the wrong way.

I mean....I just...

sigh
07-22-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
A USA Today reviewer has take offense that there are no people of color and very few women in Dunkirk:

The trio of timelines can be jarring as you figure out how they all fit, and the fact that there are only a couple of women and no lead actors of color may rub some the wrong way.

I mean....I just...

sigh
Idiot says something stupid. Why does it need to be posted a million times. I've literally seen this posted on every site I read. It's incentivizing stupidity.
07-22-2017 , 04:08 PM
That quote is real?
07-22-2017 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
That quote is real?
Yes. The guy is a moron and makes progressives look bad.
07-22-2017 , 04:41 PM
07-22-2017 , 06:05 PM
Finished it off and watched Aliens 3 and Alien Resurrection and I am Aliened out. These 2 weren't anywhere near as good. The first 2 were pretty seamless and entertaining. These last 2 were typical of deeper sequels where they are trying to keep the plates spinning. I was not nearly as engaged as with the first 2 and was sick of Alien movies by the end. I did enjoy Resurrection more than 3 though. 3 kinda sucked while Resurrection had a little more humor and interesting scenes and situations.
07-22-2017 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
I liked Alien because it had a strong female villain without being misogynist about it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
What makes you think the villain in Alien was female?
The Alien is a vicious killer, so female, but the guy who turns out to be an android is probably sexless. The corporation's sex is, I believe, unstated.

Hope this clears it up.
07-22-2017 , 06:24 PM
IIRC, Joss Whedon did uncredited rewrites on Resurrection.
07-22-2017 , 06:34 PM
Oh I meant Aliens not Alien. This type of mix-up could easily have been avoided if they'd used I and II like The Godfather.
07-22-2017 , 07:05 PM
Kioshk is trolling again, he was clearly stating Ripley was the villain

We're on to you, buddy
07-22-2017 , 07:54 PM
I just got the LOTR trilogy on disc so I can introduce it to GF. Might make or break our relationship.

Spoiler:
j/k She's awesome even if she hates hobbits.
07-22-2017 , 08:09 PM
Dunkirk

I loathed this film. It is really badly structured, the soundmix is oppressive, and the message is disgusting. It is beautiful to look at like, like if Dali was to arrange the bodies from Jonestown into an artwork.

First structure, it randomly and for no reason flashes from day to night and location to location making it impossible to understand where in the story you are or which location. There is no plot, which is fine. Most of my favorite films have little to no plot. However, here instead of character or plot you get endless repeats of the same narrow escape scene by a guy you don't care about at all. It's basically 3 scenes, repeated for two hours. It is like a cheap slasher film or action movie where the hero JUST escapes 100 times until the credits roll.

Nolan also thinks war was nothing but non-stop action. He really does a terrible job of showing the scale as well. We are told over and over that there are 400,000 people on the beach but are shown like 2,000. Did his CGI budget run out? Also, the big emotional payoff scene when the boats arrive again we are shown 10 boats which would hold like 500 people.

Nolan is hands down the single worst working director in terms of sound. I didn't think it could get worse than Interstellar but he tops himself here. In 70mm IMAX it is so loud it actually hurts. This isn't to say you can understand a word any of the actors say. All dialogue is barely audible. Everything else is tuned up to 11.

Finally the message is revolting. Here war is totally clean. Nobody is really hurt. No limbs lost or blood even. People just neatly fall to the ground and peacefully pass away. Furthermore, the film spends 9/10th of its time trying to show the futility of war but cant pass up an ending about the glory of war. It's really gross.

Apparently, the main guy is some pop star but he doesn't have to act all, just run away from explosions or swim to the surface so its pretty meaningless.

Did anyone care about the 17 year old kid and if so why?

Grade: D
07-22-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Yes. The guy is a moron and makes progressives look bad.
I really doubt that,I imagine at some point,we will have to take creative license with history and put minorities and oppressed genders into historical based movies.

We laugh,but hey,tell that to comic fanboy,he used to think that too.

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