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04-25-2017 , 12:25 AM
I'm an avid defender of The Village

Way better than Split, which I still don't understand how it garnered decent reviews.
04-25-2017 , 02:05 AM
I liked Unbreakable and Signs a lot years ago, not sure if I still would now.

"BUT EARTH IS FULL OF WATER" is one of those really annoying things that people think of as a "plot hole" that doesn't actually matter. You could easily have used apple juice or made a quick reference to them focusing on arid areas or something if you wanted to get around that argument. It's inconsequential as to whether or not it's a good film.
04-25-2017 , 10:22 AM
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who truly enjoyed The Village. I always feel like I'm in the minority when it comes to this movie. With the exception of the last five minutes (which I'll address), the rest of the movie is a masterpiece in how to build suspense. The stories of the monsters, the atmosphere, the music with those haunting violins. The stellar performances by Bryce Dallas Howard, Joaquin Phoenix, William Hurt, Sygorney Weaver, Adrien Brody, Brendan Gleeson...I mean how could you ask for a better cast?

And let's not forget the actual showdown with the monster. The overhead shot of her walking through the woods with all the red flowers on the ground



Then the actual monster. Just standing there, panting. Then the chase. I remember being in the theaters gripping on for dear life to the handrests.



People love to **** on this movie for the ending. How unrealistic it was, how silly everything else in the movie turned out to be. While I agree with most of the points that people make about the ending, I don't think it detracted from it that much. Because we were living in colonial times for the entire movie and the movie was more about atmosphere than the actual details of the monster, I didn't feel cheated at all by the big reveal at the end.
04-25-2017 , 11:23 AM
My Blind Brother

Not a complete misfire, but not as endearing as you want it to be. Nick Kroll plays the brother of Adam Scott, who is blind for reasons we find out later. Scott is cashing in on his blindness as a way to raise funds....and to feed his own ego, by doing marathons, triathlons, swims, etc... Kroll is the unsung hero, helping his brother train, and even competing in the races, but not getting the recognition that his brother gets.

Through a matter of circumstances, Scott ends up dating a girl that Kroll had a one night stand in, and Kroll is still interested in her. At this point, you would think that hilarity ensues, but you would be wrong. The film-makers chose to go the dark route instead. Yes there are a couple of humorous moments like when Scott walks in on the two going at it, but most of the time we are just feeling sorry for Kroll as his brother is actually kind of mean.

There's the obvious catharsis at the end where the two hash it out over their issues, and the movie is wrapped up in a tidy neat package, but I couldn't help but feel that this movie was missing something that some of the other movies of this genre, like the Do-Deca-Pentathalon, My Sister's Sister, or Drinking Buddies had, that made them special, and this one just so-so.
04-25-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rbenuck4
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who truly enjoyed The Village. I always feel like I'm in the minority when it comes to this movie. With the exception of the last five minutes (which I'll address), the rest of the movie is a masterpiece in how to build suspense. The stories of the monsters, the atmosphere, the music with those haunting violins. The stellar performances by Bryce Dallas Howard, Joaquin Phoenix, William Hurt, Sygorney Weaver, Adrien Brody, Brendan Gleeson...I mean how could you ask for a better cast?

And let's not forget the actual showdown with the monster. The overhead shot of her walking through the woods with all the red flowers on the ground



Then the actual monster. Just standing there, panting. Then the chase. I remember being in the theaters gripping on for dear life to the handrests.



People love to **** on this movie for the ending. How unrealistic it was, how silly everything else in the movie turned out to be. While I agree with most of the points that people make about the ending, I don't think it detracted from it that much. Because we were living in colonial times for the entire movie and the movie was more about atmosphere than the actual details of the monster, I didn't feel cheated at all by the big reveal at the end.
Oh yes! Great shot. So much amazing imagery.

I guess those final moments make me feel cheated. The first twist was perfect. The second twist about the monsters when she encounters one again was OMG perfect. But then the next twist...and the next one...they retroactively destroyed the payoff of the two previous twists without adding something more satisfying in return.
04-25-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rbenuck4
My Blind Brother

Not a complete misfire, but not as endearing as you want it to be. Nick Kroll plays the brother of Adam Scott, who is blind for reasons we find out later. Scott is cashing in on his blindness as a way to raise funds....and to feed his own ego, by doing marathons, triathlons, swims, etc... Kroll is the unsung hero, helping his brother train, and even competing in the races, but not getting the recognition that his brother gets.

Through a matter of circumstances, Scott ends up dating a girl that Kroll had a one night stand in, and Kroll is still interested in her. At this point, you would think that hilarity ensues, but you would be wrong. The film-makers chose to go the dark route instead. Yes there are a couple of humorous moments like when Scott walks in on the two going at it, but most of the time we are just feeling sorry for Kroll as his brother is actually kind of mean.

There's the obvious catharsis at the end where the two hash it out over their issues, and the movie is wrapped up in a tidy neat package, but I couldn't help but feel that this movie was missing something that some of the other movies of this genre, like the Do-Deca-Pentathalon, My Sister's Sister, or Drinking Buddies had, that made them special, and this one just so-so.
I'd have a hard time seeing a movie with one of these jackasses in it, but both of them? No thanks.
04-25-2017 , 01:57 PM
Regarding The village, I read that the original ending was simply of Ivy going over the wall and the audience seeing that we are in modern times....they brought the cast back and reshot the ending with all the twists, apparently.

It would've been interesting, I think, if we just saw the photo that Hurt and his wife pull out of the desk near the end - the big reveal - without all the voice-overs explaining everything....and then not have the park ranges in it at all.
04-25-2017 , 02:05 PM
I forgot about that. If I recall, the movie was lambasted because the original ending was Ivy encountering the Range Rover and then jump to credits.

I always had this idea for an impressionistic ending where as soon as Ivy goes over the wall, we see only through her POV, blackness except for the occasional color, everything interpreted through sound. Maybe worth a fan edit if I ever make time
04-25-2017 , 02:09 PM
That shot of her in the field of red flowers and how that signals she will now immediately encounter a creature is so powerful and feels like it substantiates everything that came before. But the twist thereafter made me feel cheated because it shows that things like that were actually just a huge coincidence.
04-25-2017 , 03:23 PM
The Accountant I liked it but was slightly disappointed since everyone hyped it up so much. 3/5

Hell or High Water Basically a better version of NCFOM. Enjoyed this. 4/5

Last edited by Banana man; 04-25-2017 at 03:30 PM.
04-25-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Banana man
The Accountant I liked it but was slightly disappointed since everyone hyped it up so much. 3/5

Hell or High Water Basically a better version of NCFOM. Enjoyed this. 4/5
No one thought The Accountant was good.
04-25-2017 , 03:37 PM
I watched The Village on a transatlantic flight and turned it off halfway through, that's how boring it was. And this is in the days before tablets. Such a dull movie.
04-25-2017 , 03:37 PM
Wait, a better version of no country for old men? And it only gets 4/5? NCFOM is fantastic and essentially flawless imo.
04-25-2017 , 06:37 PM
Without reading previous posts(don't want to get anything i may wanna watch spoiled)
Is it too early to post opinions about Fast n Furious 8?

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04-25-2017 , 07:11 PM
Courage Under Fire - 8/10

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During the 1991 Gulf War, Lieutenant Colonel Nathaniel Serling (Denzel Washington) accidentally caused a friendly fire incident, a mistake that was hushed up by his superiors. Following the war, he is assigned to investigate the case of Army Captain Karen Walden (Meg Ryan), killed in action when her Medevac unit was attempting to rescue the crew of a downed helicopter. But, as Serling interviews the members of Walden's crew, he realizes their stories about the incident don't add up
04-25-2017 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blackize5
Wait, a better version of no country for old men? And it only gets 4/5? NCFOM is fantastic and essentially flawless imo.
All Ghost in the Shell 2017 sins are forgiven.
04-26-2017 , 01:49 AM
Saw Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Pretty good. I really want to see the Dracula puppet musical at the end, though. That was better than anything else.
04-26-2017 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
rbk, I realize you are lolrbk, but you may want to take a look at these links:

A Companion to Indie Film

Reel Terror

The Fight over "Broadway Brawler"

The Best of Times for Bruce

Variety

Yes, Willis expressed interest in TSS, but it was because he had to pick something since he was forced to make the Disney movies as a result of the BB blowout. Willis didn't even want Shyamalan to direct, and fought for a more experienced director. Vogel held his ground on that one, but it wasn't because Willis was buddies with Shyamalan.

We can agree to disagree on whether or not Willis is a good actor, but you might want to know that he sides with me on that issue.

Here are what two 3rd parties you may recognize had to say about Willis in TSS:

Ebert: "The film opens with the mayor presenting him with a citation, and that moment precisely marks the beginning of his professional decline. He goes down with a sort of doomed dignity."

NYTimes: "For Mr. Willis, the movie continues the unpromising track he took with ''Mercury Rising,'' in which his character goes through hell to save the life of an autistic child. "
lol bro did you actually read any of the articles you linked?

literally not a single word in any of them backs up anything your saying or contradicts a single thing in my post.

I feel like u have to be trolling cuz otherwise can't understand why on earth you would go thru the effort of linking all those articles that have absolutely nothing to do with what I said. literally the only relevant thing in those articles was that Willis was contractually obligated to star in another Disney film, a fact not in dispute.

but pls show a single quote from any of your links that contradicts anything I said.

I mean I don't even know why I bothered to respond when you start by saying "lolrbk" then proceed to make literally no argument whatsoever and just link a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with anything figuring ppl would be too lazy to actually read them and just assume they were relevant.

not sure why ur so determined to defend ur position which is objectively incorrect (not referring to ur opinion of his acting skill but his desire/sincere interest in working on the project) but so far you've failed miserably.

also your reading comprehension could use some work as I never said he was buddy buddy with M night and I even stated his agent tried to get M night replaced as director (but it was his agent NOT Willis and this happened well before production ever started so it was in no way a reflection on his work the agent just wanted a big name director and we don't even know if Willis was aware of any of this, and once production actually started there were zero issues on the set and zero reported problems between night and bruce a fact supported by them working together on future films), but that in no way supports the rest of your argument which you clearly just made up in your head with no supporting evidence and then instead of just admitting u were wrong doubled down on ur ignorance while personally attacking me despite the fact I'm actually citing well researched sources not variety articles that don't even have anything to do with the topic.

cliffs:

1) you have zero proof Willis ever fought to get him removed the fact his agent tried to have him removed (well before production ever started) does not mean Willis fought to have him removed and the way you present it is very misleading ad all this happened way before any of them met and started working together.

2) you act like the fact he was obligated to make another Disney film makes it insignificant that he demanded to star in this low budget film from a 1st time unknown screenwriter. there were tons of other scripts he could have chosen and not only did he demand to star in this one despite Disney's objections but he remained committed to the project even after Disney made it clear that the unknown 1st time director would in fact direct the film.
how after all that you can say he didn't actually care about the film and was just phoning it in to fulfill his contract is just absurd and flies in the face of all logic.
and if he was just phoning it in why would night be so happy to work with him again once he was a big time famous hot director who could now get his choice of movie stars?

Last edited by riverboatking; 04-26-2017 at 05:13 AM. Reason: apologize for my terrible grammar I'm typing on my phone and it's way too hard/tilting
04-26-2017 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Banana man
Hell or High Water Basically a better version of NCFOM. Enjoyed this. 4/5


I liked HoHW, but.....wow. No way.
04-26-2017 , 07:55 AM
saw Arrival last night. Not impressed

Interstellar >>>>> Arrival
04-26-2017 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Banana man
saw Arrival last night. Not impressed

Interstellar >>>>> Arrival

Interstellar is a D- overall with an F- ending.
Arrival is an A
04-26-2017 , 10:36 AM
Got a new TV. Everything (movies, etc.) looks like it is shot on home video. Am I imagining this?
04-26-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Got a new TV. Everything (movies, etc.) looks like it is shot on home video. Am I imagining this?
Setup is very important with new tvs. I'm guessing you have it setup incorrectly.
04-26-2017 , 11:12 AM
Got to see Seven Samurai last night on the big screen.

Some things I noted:

I've seen this movie ~half a dozen times in a theater, but I've only watched it once on TV -- most of the time it comes on I lose interest and usually turn it off after a few minutes. It just doesn't not translate well to the small screen. But on a big screen it is riveting. (We need to make it illegal to show this flick on TV. The one time government intervention in the arts is needed, its missing.)

Kurosawa takes his time telling the story. I can't imagine Seven Samurai being made today. 45 minutes into it, only two of the samurai have been assembled.

Japanese films are beautiful purveyors of sentimentality, but there is nothing sentimental about the killing in this movie. It's brutal.

I've always regarded Seven Samurai as early on Kurosawa's learning curve (an etude, if you will), but now I think of it as a masterpiece in its own right.

      
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