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Old 01-26-2012, 10:30 PM   #31
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Re: Lounge 20th Century Arts & Humanities Draft!

Wow...that's a great first pick. Now I can't think of anything else that would deserve to be No. 1.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:44 PM   #32
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Enrique has until 11:13 pm pst to make his pick...then TTI is up!
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:56 PM   #33
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Re: Lounge 20th Century Arts & Humanities Draft!

Round 1 Pick 2

A Philosophy/God/Religion/President/Grand Poobah/Guru



Pál Erdös and his mathematical philosophy

Most people think mathematics is about calculating things. Adding, multiplying, taking derivatives and integrals. However, Mathematics is about proving things. About asking questions and answering them through logic and clever arguments. Mathematics is much closer to philosophy than to a science if thought this way. Among mathematicians there are different ideas of how one should engage in research. Among pure mathematicians the two main camps are the "theory builders" and the "problem solvers". Mathematics needs both kinds of mathematicians to thrive, but I personally prefer the "problem solver" camp, so I will pick the main 20th century exponent of the "problem solver" mathematician: Pál Erdös (also known as Paul Erdös).

Erdös was prolific (publishing over 1500 papers with over 500 collaborators. Erdös travelled incessantly, being housed by mathematicians around the world, rarely staying at a place more than two weeks. One of the best aspects of his work is encouraging mathematicians to work together. He collaborated on so many papers that there is a notion called Erdös Number. It is sort of the Kevin Bacon of Mathematics (although the idea came before the Kevin Bacon game). If you have a paper with Erdos, then you have an Erdös number 1. If you have a paper with someone who has a paper with Erdös you have an Erdös number 2 and so on to get numbers 3,4,5,... .

Erdös was a great problem poser. Having a knack for asking interesting questions that lead to fruitful research. He created many problem solving techniques that are now essential in Combinatorics and championed some great methods in number theory.

While I think picking Erdös is a great pick in general in this category, I obviously have personal reasons for this choice. Since High School I have been attracted to the kinds of problems Erdös tried to solve. How are prime numbers distributed? How many people do you need in a room before you can guarantee that either 6 of them are all friends with each other or 6 of them are all strangers to each other? This is not known and in fact it is also unknown for 5, Spencer a friend of Erdös recalls the following Erdös joke:
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Erdős asks us to imagine an alien force, vastly more powerful than us, landing on Earth and demanding the value of R(5, 5) or they will destroy our planet. In that case, he claims, we should marshal all our computers and all our mathematicians and attempt to find the value. But suppose, instead, that they ask for R(6, 6). In that case, he believes, we should attempt to destroy the aliens.
My choice for graduate school came down to which one would do Erdös style mathematics. When I studied abroad in Hungary as an undergraduate, I was inspired by the Hungarian mathematicians. The level of creativity is incredibly high.

Erdös was an eccentric, incredibly talented man that affected Mathematics a great deal in the 20th century and inspired a huge number of mathematicians. I am proud of having him be my first pick in this draft.

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Round 1: Paul Erdös and his mathematical philosophy.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:57 PM   #34
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Sorry for the rambling write up, to tired to edit it nicely. I did however contain myself from mentioning the fun math problems Erdos solved.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:59 PM   #35
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:02 AM   #36
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Holy cow...never heard of him but after that write-up, I can't argue with it.

i mean, he's no Eddie Izzard, but still.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:11 AM   #37
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Round 1 Pick 3

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T.S. Elliot -- The Waste Land

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One of the most influential English-language poems of all time. The signature poem of the modernist era.
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:37 AM   #38
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T.S. Elliot -- The Waste Land

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One of the most influential English-language poems of all time. The signature poem of the modernist era.
Heh, my pick from last time. I like it, but I'm somewhat unconvinced of the value. Might have been nice to nab again, though. Oh well.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:16 AM   #39
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Round 1, Pick #4 Overall

So, it was clear in the last draft that I had a somewhat different perspective on the values of various categories compared to other people. I would say that I put more of a value on the scarcity of well-known things in the category than many other drafters did. Maybe it's because I'm a boorish American, but I valued drafting the David early because I didn't know a ton of other sculptures, certainly not many as awesome as the David. Also, I favored things that were not only beautiful in and of themselves, but also things that were broadly utilitarian -- utilitarian in the sense that they covered a broad range of cultural aspects rather than being utilitarian per se. I drafted things that my new culture could amply use to foster a new culture. That was a big reason why I was eager to grab the first website drafted, Wikimedia, despite the fact that many other people had dismissed the category. That is also why I grabbed "The Waste Land" early, even though it didn't mean much more to me than some other poems. The Waste Land meant a lot more to me, certainly compared to most poems I know and most other poems I was sure would be drafted. So, yet again, one of my earliest picks is going to be in the category in which other drafters furled their brows wondering what it was doing here. When there is room to go off the beaten path, there is the opportunity for immense value. This is far and away the #1 overall on my draft board, and I'm decently shocked that it fell to #4.

The category of my first pick is:
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With the fourth pick in the draft, I select:
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:24 AM   #40
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alright, PM sent to JC. Do we have a dead time overnight?
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:46 AM   #41
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Nice pick MrWookie.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:14 AM   #42
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Very nice pick Wookie
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:50 AM   #43
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Nice - I was trying to think what could possibly be considered a consensus first pick overall (or even arguably a first rounder), but the Internet absolutely falls into that category.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:10 PM   #44
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Oh, I totally forgot to include this:

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Old 01-27-2012, 12:13 PM   #45
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JohnCole is skipped.

MrBaseball is on the clock.

Merek007 has been added to the draft, and will pick after Fish. I will add him to the spreadsheet shortly.
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