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04-18-2014 , 05:10 PM
We'll be seeing less of ARC in the future.
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04-22-2014 , 09:56 PM
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04-23-2014 , 09:34 AM
fb quote:

"Seriously. This makes me tremble with anger. I love myself exactly as I am so how about you worry about YOURself."

here's the article

http://thoughtcatalog.com/carolyn-ha...ance-movement/

comments in the article are mostly the same as the one i provided
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04-27-2014 , 05:27 AM
My buddy just died on New Years day. He was extremely obese, like 6'4 450lb. I always wanted to say something to encourage him to lose weight but I never did. He was only 40...
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04-27-2014 , 05:31 AM
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Obesity doesnt bother me at all. I dont particularly enjoy looking at extremely obese people, but I dont particularly enjoy looking at ugly people, or penises, either. Its not offensive, I dont find it disgusting, or worthy of hate or scorn. I feel bad for them to some degree because their lives are limited.

What DOES offend me is the entitled, external-locus-of-control attitude that is STRONGLY correlated with obesity, and the correlation goes up with the BMI. My attitude towards obese people has changed dramatically since I've worked in healthcare. We see a disproportionate number of very obese patients, and they have a whole litany of medical problems that non-obese patients dont suffer from. With few exceptions, these patients tend to be the most impatient, the least compliant, the most litiginous and frankly just the meanest and nastiest patients. They tend to take zero responsibility for themselves, whether that is whatever choices led them to this spot in the first place or whether its simple post-operative care and instructions. We have 500 lb patients on their 6th hernia repair who are incredibly demanding and outright rude when their repair fails, which is inevitably does.

None of this makes me hate them. It just makes it incredibly frustrating and difficult to care for them. For many of my colleagues this frustration turns into disgust or anger.
That sounds right, many obese people are ignorant gluttons.
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04-29-2014 , 09:32 PM
Every human being that isn't disabled due to condition/injury should possess a base level of fitness, like doing one pullup and being able to sprint for ten seconds. If you're so fat that basic movement is a chore for you, then you are WTF (way too fat). To me, it's not about being disgusting or whatever, it's about being a burden on society and the people around you.

I look down on fat people, not because they're disgusting (typically sweaty and smelly), but because they don't respect themselves and their own health. I have friends and family who aren't in shape (not obese, but sedentary and overweight). Always, I keep nudging them towards living fitter, out of endearment.
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05-24-2014 , 04:05 AM
Ive lost 20 pounds since reading this thread and picking up the book Busto recommended. Thank you again, Busto.

It's been pretty easy, cos I'm not 'on a diet', I've changed my eating habits and lifestyle to avoid the eating triggers.

Scientific approach 》》》fad diets
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05-24-2014 , 04:22 AM
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DB,

I think you'll like this article. The whole site in general is pretty good reading, but the nutrition section is particularly relevant to our discussion.



That article is primarily a review of the book The Diet Fix, but he touches on a number of other issues, like the LOLLLLLLL Dr. Oz recommendations, why diets fail, why exercise is not the easy solution
The Diet Fix is the book and approach that works for me.
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05-24-2014 , 05:12 AM
Let's see if you keep it off. I'm rooting for you, also rooting for science. I'm hearing good things about science.
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05-24-2014 , 05:23 AM
My target for end of this year is 30 more pounds.

For the following year it is 30 more pounds again.

Then I will be at my life target weight.
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05-24-2014 , 07:16 AM
Terrific news DB. Keep it up. Make sure to take noodz. You don't have to show them to anybody, but it can be good motivation to maintain or even increase your fitness further if you can compare your old self to your new self.
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05-24-2014 , 08:10 AM
wat
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05-24-2014 , 03:22 PM
I'm also down like 18 pounds in about 1.5 months. Like 222 to 204. I had no idea how easy it was to count calories these days. You can find the content of almost anything you eat (even fast food) online. Really easy. I grew up in the '80s - we didn't even have those Nutritional Facts on food or soda items. You had the list of chemicals on the side but that was it.
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05-24-2014 , 03:34 PM
I'm down from 185 to 162 or so, thanks kioshk!

I sorta don't feel thinner except for the fact pants are much looser and I need to use more belt notches, probably because I see myself every day. Other people seem to notice.
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05-24-2014 , 03:39 PM
Haha I bought myself a new belt just yesterday. All my old belts are too big.
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05-24-2014 , 03:54 PM
DB, if you do take nudes, send them to me.
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05-24-2014 , 03:55 PM
I hope the camera adds ten pounds to...you know.
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05-24-2014 , 04:19 PM
LOL

db, please send me teh noodz as well.

Spoiler:
of Mrs. db
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05-24-2014 , 04:59 PM
Sorry guys, no noodz.

And no noodz is good news.
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05-24-2014 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
I'm down from 185 to 162 or so, thanks kioshk!

I sorta don't feel thinner except for the fact pants are much looser and I need to use more belt notches, probably because I see myself every day. Other people seem to notice.
Thanks pwns. I do try to be a positive influence here in 2p2.
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05-25-2014 , 11:13 AM
Huh, I didn't know we had a Lounge slim down session going on. I started losing weight in January as part of a prop bet in the Microstakes LHE forum, starting at 251.6. I lost about 5 lbs in the first two months mostly due to increasing exercise. I took to counting calories in March and then shed 15 more in 5 weeks. I am at 226 now with plans to lose another 10 or so. After that, we'll see if I think I should lose more or start maybe adding some muscle by lifting in earnest.

K joined me in April, and she's lost 10. She's got to fit into a bridesmaid dress she deliberately bought too small for a wedding this fall, but seeing how it hasn't been hard thus far, I suspect she'll keep going beyond that.

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05-26-2014 , 03:21 PM
I considered for a while whether or not to post in this thread. I don't see how it really affects anything though so **** it.

I'm sure most of you know that I'm tremendously overweight. I haven't weighed myself in a long time but I'm certainly heavier than anyone else in this thread. I am used to hearing things from people about how disgusting I am and hearing things muttered in my direction and CONSTANTLY people treating me differently. I'm not saying these things aren't warranted or expected... obviously they are. I don't have a huge problem with them doing it. It's embarrassing but it's my own fault at this point.

That said, I think at some point it gets extremely hard for some people to avoid being on the path that puts them in my camp. I grew up in the cornfields in Illinois where there was next to 0 information on proper nutrition. Pretty much everyone in my family on my mom's side (with whom I associated with mostly because my parents got divorced) was overweight and most meals I had when growing up were filled with carbs. School food was no better and snacks/soda were everywhere as well. My idea of a snack when I was small was a few slices of bread and a soda. And to be honest, it shouldn't have mattered anyway. I was really active with sports/activities until I was 16 or so. But I constantly gained weight too quickly anyway. When I graduated high school, I wanna say I was 250 or so. I had stopped playing sports and was playing card games and video games, and the internet had my attention most every day after school.

Then college came and poker hit me and I basically did that every day. No one did the gym thing so I never got into it and I was extremely lazy anyway. With all the income from poker I had more money than I had ever seen before and loved going out to eat and taking friends to good places around town. We couldn't afford to eat out for a long time so I basically did it every day because I was in a dorm for a while and then at home on a vampire schedule.

It's about that time that I really should've done something to change myself. I blamed everything else constantly and I knew it was bad, but I was 20 and still thought myself invincible. I'm obviously in terrible shape but my weight hasn't really caused me any pain so I didn't have any urgency to change it which is probably going to end up killing me.

The worst thing by far is the ****ty feeling when I fly. I have avoided using an airplane for a long time because of the looks and I know from reading stuff online that pretty much everyone hates to sit next to people like me.

Anyway. Big pitiable story there. That's basically how I ended up with where I am. And I do want to change it but feel like I'm too set in my ways to really do anything about it. I don't really know what reaction I expect from people but I'm just trying to explain that to someone who's never been in my shoes that it's not so simple as 'fat idiot is a huge blubbery turd who can't stop eating.' Even now, I don't snack. I don't drink regular soda. I eat two meals a day generally with friends and we eat similar amounts. It wouldn't be hard for me to change you'd think, but I wouldn't be here if I could change things easily.
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05-26-2014 , 03:55 PM
gobbo,

Even if the solution turned out to be simple, I agree that it is by no means easy.

Have you read YTF's thread in the Health & Fitness subforum? It is long but a very rewarding read. He is in his 50s and over the last year has lost over 150lbs, most of it by modifying his nutrition.

Do you want to get in better shape and/or lose weight? If so, it might help to figure out first what strategy would help, then look at baby steps. One of the worst things you can do is focus on the endpoint instead of micro-stages. For a lot of people, losing weight sounds like swallowing a whale.

Please feel free to reach out to me or anyone in H&F.

Or keep on as you have been. You are a freak and a weird dude and are well liked as you are
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05-26-2014 , 04:10 PM
Every great whale swallowing begins with a single bite.
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05-26-2014 , 04:22 PM
Are you saying someone is going to eat me?
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