I know I'm going to regret this, but I really want to know what tier I'm in and how I'm labeled.

I think it's because of the reasoning and logic behind it. To believe in something, anything, that has not an ounce of proof or logic to believe in it behind it makes me question a person's thought process in general.

I'm sympathetic towards certain aspects of it, especially the solace and comfort people may find in it as you say. Like I said, I don't denounce people in public over it. It just makes me slightly uncomfortable.

There's an extremely high probability that wil318466 is socially awkward.

Being rationale about believing in supernatural nonsense makes me socially awkward?

Indeed it is without proof or logic. No doubt. Let me ask you this, do you respect people only if you see that they use logic in all of their decisions and conversations? Is there no other quality that you admire, only logic and intelligence?

Of course not, but it's the trait that I admire the most. I love my family members but have some serious flaws in their logic/thinking. This doesn't mean I don't enjoy being around them, but there are times when it just gets old explaining things to people all the time.

I've met people who have very insightful viewpoints and reasoning which may not be obvious to most, and I've enjoyed being around them moreso than others. Then of course sometimes I just want to get drunk and have a good time and then I have fun with anyone and everyone around me.

Aren't there people you enjoy people around more than others due to their personalities or intelligence? Example : hanging out with someone going on and on about how good the Phillies are going to be this season or talking about reality tv is more tiresome than someone talking about new ideas they may have for a business venture or something going on politically. Either way we're still ordering boubons neat and getting where we gotta go, one is just a much more interesting ride.

I sort of know what you're talking about. There are people who bore me to death. But they aren't the religious ones. They are family/coworkers/acquaintances who sit around and talk about material things or talk about partying. I find these people to be tedious and superficial. Religious people not so much.

Agree it is fun to sit and talk with people who are really intelligent and like to discuss intellectual topics. But I've found that plenty of people who attend church enjoy doing this too, and are insightful and full of great advice. I grew up next door to 2 Lutheran families. Coolest people I've met. Their kids were extremely smart and they were really down-to-earth. Loved the parents (both of the fathers were professors). Do not assume that just because people go to church that they aren't intelligent.

Logic and intelligence are 2 traits we admire in others, but what good are they without compassion and kindness? Compassion and kindness are the most important qualities in a person in my opinion. By far the most important.

I just had lunch with my wife before we picked up some groceries for dinner tonight. We were discussing a friend of her's who is married to a very religious man, who's also a racist and a homophobe. Her friend is struggling with the fact that her husband wants to home-school the children to keep them away from bad influences and certain teachings, namely evolution. This is where things started getting interesting.

I pressed my wife into her opinions on it, and she said she respected other people's opinions. I expressed that a tolerance of other people's beliefs is fine, but that teaching children things that are incorrect isn't a good thing. We went back and forth a bit and I pretty much derided his line of thought. I also expressed that if he ever brought that poisonous line of thought near my children I would openly deride and argue against his beliefs.

I'm ok with people believing certain things as long as they aren't harming others, to a point. When they start affecting other people's lives and opinions with things that are untrue, I have a big issue with it. My wife is non-confrontational, so I sort of see where she is coming from, but I'm not ok with this at all, and I wouldn't keep my mouth shut about it if my opinion was asked, and I would 100% not "let it go" if it involved my children.

Teaching children evolution is not correct is akin to child abuse in my book. Creationism is nonsense and dangerous, as it starts making people believe that their faith trumps things like facts and testable science. The conversation was a good thing with my wife, as we discussed whether we'd be raising our children with a religious background, which I am against and something she agrees with me on.

I also don't believe this stance is intolerant or out of the ordinary, but there are many people who would disagree.

Interesting. I'm closer to your wife's line of thinking; while there's no way I'd "let it stand" if he brought that **** around my kids, I'd be more likely to handle it by discussing later with my kids why he's an asshat for thinking what he thinks.

Having it out with him is pointless IMO because 1) There's 0% chance I'm convincing him he's wrong, and maybe 0.01% chance I'm keeping him from spreading his beliefs elsewhere, and 2) I think the impression my kids would come away with would be not so much "Dad knows what he's talking about" as "Dad's a ****ing hothead".

Getting back to the original topic (or the original derail at least), religious folks don't bother me at all as long as they understand that it's a personal thing that should be kept to themselves. And dumb people that don't try to sound smart or spout off on topics they don't understand are just fine with me.

I graduated law school three weeks ago and have not done a goddamn thing since. I should be job searching and studying for the patent bar, and in fact have been telling people that I have been doing such fairly regularly. It's all a lie. I mean I would like to say I'm just overwhelmed by being cast back out into the real world and am having problems focusing on specific, individualized things I can do to get me back in the job market ... but really, I just wanted a break after 3 years of constant stress before beginning a lifetime of constant stress, and it has been awesome. Money will run out soon, though, so it will be time to get my hustle on.

Less serious:

I have never not cried watching the youtube vid of Susan Boyle's first performance on Britain's Got Talent. Watched it a few minutes ago and wept like a baby.

Wait. What?

diddy,

Congratulations on graduating from Law School. That is awesome!

I do this all the time. I'm always telling people about all the stuff I've been busy with when really all I did that day was play video games and masturbate.

You actually had me right up until this. I also think that Religion makes little to no sense and is completely illogical. However, two things:

1.) There really isn't any evidence that any Religion is wrong. It actually is possible that Christianity is completely correct. Until you die, you won't really know beyond a shadow of a doubt.

and much more importantly

2.) There is A LOT of good things to learn from what Religion (Christianity specifically) teaches. So, kids are missing out on a lot of the good, moral teachings.