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08-01-2012, 02:55 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Citizen Kane Dethroned
Sight and Sound's film poll, held every ten years, has a new winner, Hitchcock's Vertigo.
Critics Top Ten:
Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
La Règle du jeu [The Rules of the Game] (Jean Renoir, 1939)
Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)
Man with a Movie Camera (Vertov, 1929)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)
8 ½ (Federico Fellini, 1963)
Directors Top Ten:
Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) - (tied #2)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) - (tied #2)
8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
The Godfather (Coppola, 1972) - (tied #7)
Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) - (tied #7)
Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1974)
Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio De Sica, 1948)
Last edited by John Cole; 08-01-2012 at 03:12 PM.
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08-01-2012, 03:13 PM
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Tripod
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
It's been ten years already??
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08-01-2012, 03:17 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
I know, huh? Big surprises for me are the three silents on the critics poll and the ranking of Taxi Driver on the directors poll.
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08-01-2012, 03:29 PM
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Tripod
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
I still don't see how The Searchers is always so high. I mean, it's good...but come on.
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08-01-2012, 03:42 PM
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grinder
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
ive seen only taxi driver, bits of citizen kane and the godfather :<
any advice dominic on what of these movies i should see first? I really like your taste and everytime you do a post about a movie i immediatly watch it ! (not porn tho)
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08-01-2012, 04:08 PM
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old hand
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
I see that Sight & Sound surveys "academic" critics, which explains a lot, as absurd plot-lines and characters with implausible or incomprehensible motivations set a nice template for some vague Lacanian interpretation.
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08-01-2012, 04:34 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
vertigo isn't even the best Hitchcock film...
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08-01-2012, 04:39 PM
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Tripod
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
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Originally Posted by Saxophone
ive seen only taxi driver, bits of citizen kane and the godfather :<
any advice dominic on what of these movies i should see first? I really like your taste and everytime you do a post about a movie i immediatly watch it ! (not porn tho)
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You can't go wrong with any of them, although of the silent films, I've only seen Sunrise. But I highlighted the ones that might be more accessible to the general public:
Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
La Règle du jeu [The Rules of the Game] (Jean Renoir, 1939)
Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)
Man with a Movie Camera (Vertov, 1929)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)
8 ½ (Federico Fellini, 1963)
Directors Top Ten:
Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) - (tied #2)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) - (tied #2)
8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
The Godfather (Coppola, 1972) - (tied #7)
Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) - (tied #7)
Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1974)
Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio De Sica, 1948)
And I know you said no porn, but any best of film list that doesn't include New Wave Hookers, is bogus.
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08-01-2012, 04:49 PM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
netflix updated
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08-01-2012, 06:21 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
vertigo isn't even the best Hitchcock film...
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pretty much this.
oh and apparently every director forgot about Kurosawa in the last 10 years (rashomon and seven samurai were both on the 2002 and 1992 directors list)
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08-01-2012, 06:53 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
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Originally Posted by metaname2
I see that Sight & Sound surveys "academic" critics, which explains a lot, as absurd plot-lines and characters with implausible or incomprehensible motivations set a nice template for some vague Lacanian interpretation.
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Hardly the case with most of the films on the list. Vertigo qualifies, sure, and Lacan could have a grand time with The Searchers, but none of the silents do, and both Rules of the Game and Tokyo Story are humanist classics.
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08-01-2012, 06:55 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I still don't see how The Searchers is always so high. I mean, it's good...but come on.
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I think it might be so high because of its influence. The Searchers = Taxi Driver.
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08-01-2012, 06:56 PM
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Lounge Nighthawk
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18
vertigo isn't even the best Hitchcock film...
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I think it's the best, but it's not my favorite.
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08-01-2012, 09:04 PM
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grinder
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Re: Citizen Kane Dethroned
I'm surprised at The Godfather (I & II) dropping out of the top ten in the critics' poll!
Vertigo was #2 ten years ago, and seven of the ten are the still there, so I attribute it more to shuffling by wannabe iconoclast critics. (Give it twenty, thirty years and Pulp Fiction and Fargo will be in the Top 5...)
Oh yeah, almost forgot: Man With a Movie Camera?!? Man with a $%@*&@ Movie Camera?!? Avant-garde propaganda ripoff of Ruttmann...
(I'm going to my cave and I'm going to find my power animal.)
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