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08-17-2014 , 10:42 AM
About halfway through "The Shadow of the Wind".

Really like it so far.
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08-17-2014 , 01:54 PM
Finished The Root of His Evil by James M. Cain. Good but not excellent.

Started The Man without Qualities, Volume One; A Sort of Introduction, The Like of It Now Happens, by Robert Musil translated by Wilkins and Kaiser.
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08-18-2014 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
About halfway through "The Shadow of the Wind".

Really like it so far.
I also enjoyed this book quite a bit.

This is a good reminder that I need to read the prequel - The Angel's Game.
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08-18-2014 , 11:09 PM
Reading How to Get Filthy Rich in Rising Asia (fiction) by Mohsin Hamid. Pretty decent about 1/3 thru.

Finished Give and Take (nonfiction) by Adam Grant a few days ago and thought it was excellent. Could end up being an especially important book in the social sciences, as it presents a refreshing, (formerly?) counter-intuitive worldview that a "giving"-oriented mindset acted upon correctly can lead to greater success in the workplace and life in general than a "taking" or "tit for tat/matching" worldview. Leaves open the possibility of a world where some get ahead while helping others get ahead, a non zero-sum game of growth.
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08-19-2014 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SL__72
I also enjoyed this book quite a bit.

This is a good reminder that I need to read the prequel - The Angel's Game.
Finished it up today. I really enjoyed it. Took me back to when I read a lot of Dumas in high school.

I will read the rest of the book regarding the cemetery of the lost books.
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08-19-2014 , 02:08 PM
I just read The Girl With All The Gifts, it's a sort of post apocalyptic Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Nighttime, sorta. Anyway, pretty entertaining.
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08-19-2014 , 09:19 PM
Has anyone read the rise of superman: Decoding science?
If so what did you think?
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08-19-2014 , 09:32 PM
The Guilt Project by Vanessa Place is brilliant and engrossing. The tone is conversational like you are listening to a most persuasive and knowledgable public speaker.

From amazon:
An English court in 1736 described rape as an accusation “easily to be made and hard to be proved, and harder to be defended by the party accused, though never so innocent. ”To prove the crime, the law required a woman to physically resist, to put up a “hue and cry,” as evidence of her unwillingness. Beginning in the 1970s, however, feminist and victim-advocacy groups began changing attitudes toward rape so the crime is now seen as violent in itself: the legal definition of rape now includes everything from the sadistic serial rapist to the eighteen-year-old who has consensual sex with a fourteen-year-old.

This inclusiveness means there are now more rapists among us. And more of rape’s camp followers: the prison-makers, the community watchdogs, law-and-order politicians, and the real-crime/real-time entertainment industry. Vanessa Place examines the ambiguity of rape law by presenting cases where guilt lies, but lies uneasily, and leads into larger ethical questions of what defines guilt, what is justice, and what is considered just punishment. Assuming a society can and must be judged by the way it treats its most despicable members, The Guilt Project looks at the way the American legal system defines, prosecutes, and punishes sex offenders, how this Dateline NBC justice has transformed our conception of who is guilty and how they ought to be treated, and how this has come to undo our deeper humanity

“A California appellate attorney looks at crime and punishment under our sex laws… Place expands the notion of guilt, examining its other dimensions—factual, ethical, moral—and asks whether we’ve allowed dubious science, conflicting cultural messages and out-of-control political passions to distort our sex laws...Place detects something desperate in all this, and in richly allusive, frequently witty prose, she asks important questions about what it is exactly we want from our criminal laws. A sophisticated, brave look at a topic that too often provokes merely panic, prejudice and posturing.”—Kirkus Reviews

"A brilliant criminal defense attorney, Vanessa Place has produced a deeply personal yet meticulously researched argument that demands serious consideration by policy makers, journalists, social scientists, and informed citizens. For some, her book will inspire a thorough rethinking of how they understand rapists and their places in the criminal justice system. For others, the candid accounts and bold proposals in The Guilt Project will inspire mainly frustration or even anger. But no honest reader can deny the special insights she provides from her years of experience and careful reflection."—Barry Glassner, author of The Culture of Fear and Professor of Sociology, University of Southern California

"Judging by The Guilt Project, Vanessa Place is one tough defense attorney, though her wicked prose implies at times the soul of an angry poet. Her thesis that injustice is routinely perpetrated on sex criminals will not be popular—which is why her book should be read by anyone interested in criminology, specifically including legislators, judges, attorneys and prosecutors." —Robert Mayer, author of The Dreams of Ada: A True Story of Murder, Obsession, and a Small Town
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08-20-2014 , 01:37 AM
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I just tried it poolside. Not sure about the location making any difference, but I am admitting defeat and giving up, for now. Struggling to get what is going on, I am not very interested in tennis, should I be? Is it anything to do with it? Just can't get invested in it, but want to love it.
I would be surprised if IJ didn't involve some experience of struggle for most readers. Even though I'm approaching the middle of the novel, I'm still moving at a snail's pace, sometimes taking breaks of a week or more, but feel philosophically at peace in this regard. At the risk of sounding pedagogical, I can say that not always being aware of "what is going on" is to be expected from a text that is not a realist work. And also keep in mind that the narrative itself is playful, so any wish for an "end" is not likely to be fulfilled. For me, and I'm new to DFW's work, it's about allowing IJ to seep into my everyday life: even when I'm not reading the text, I'm hearing the various characters' voices commenting on "what's going on" around me. That is perhaps why the image of someone reading IJ poolside struck me as somewhat cool and triggered a wave of non-problematic, good-vibed envy. In fact I now am of the belief that IJ could well be the ultimate desert island text and I sincerely hope for your sake that the admitting of defeat carries as much weight as the common sight of a poker player leaving the room in a huff claiming he'll never ever play again.
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08-20-2014 , 02:04 AM
I just read The Heist by Daniel Silva. He's in top form in this one and it's one of the best of the Gabriel Allon series. He's the best espionage writer going at the moment imo
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08-20-2014 , 03:34 AM
Currently I am thoroughly enjoying a selection of the Arabian Nights. I think it has many short tales that might capture the imagination of young minds. Others are, perhaps, not age appropriate depending upon your cultural attitudes toward sex (not explicit) and violence.
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08-20-2014 , 10:49 AM
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I would be surprised if IJ didn't involve some experience of struggle for most readers. Even though I'm approaching the middle of the novel, I'm still moving at a snail's pace, sometimes taking breaks of a week or more, but feel philosophically at peace in this regard. At the risk of sounding pedagogical, I can say that not always being aware of "what is going on" is to be expected from a text that is not a realist work. And also keep in mind that the narrative itself is playful, so any wish for an "end" is not likely to be fulfilled. For me, and I'm new to DFW's work, it's about allowing IJ to seep into my everyday life: even when I'm not reading the text, I'm hearing the various characters' voices commenting on "what's going on" around me. That is perhaps why the image of someone reading IJ poolside struck me as somewhat cool and triggered a wave of non-problematic, good-vibed envy. In fact I now am of the belief that IJ could well be the ultimate desert island text and I sincerely hope for your sake that the admitting of defeat carries as much weight as the common sight of a poker player leaving the room in a huff claiming he'll never ever play again.
Wise words, I salute you sir.
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08-20-2014 , 12:26 PM
In the past couple weeks Team of Rivals, Let the Great World Spin, and, currently, Role Models (autographed copy) by John Waters.
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08-20-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Jcarson, would you mind giving a brief reason to give The Sound and the Fury another shot, I read the first section completely and about 20 pages of Quentin and then quit it because aside from one phenomenal representation of time I completely did not get it.
I'm sorry I missed this at first. I'll make an attempt, though I must warn that while the faculties governing my discriminating literary tastes are pristine, I am pretty inadaquate when it comes to actually writing about great writing (see, for instance, the purple prose I've speckled throughout this thread--or, if you prefer, this herniated sentence).

For starters, the book found me at an extremely chaotic time in my life, and the Compson family felt almost exactly as if it was my own. Also, I don't think I'd ever read something so "experimental" (to use the hideous word of the LitCrit), and when I finished I remember thinking "i didn't know a book could do...that." Neither of these facts will be of any help to you, but I think we can all recall a certain book that had a unique appeal for us as young readers.

More helpfully, I think Faulkner created a book that used a medium of high poetry to convey the fragmentary and fundamentally tragic condition of mankind. We are born into a world that is not our own, inherit a system of values that are not our own, and then promptly find ourselves tossed into a chaos without ever being able to truly communicate the source of this confusion. Three brothers are obsessed with their sister's early pregnancy, each experiences their grief in a profoundly different way; yet somehow Faulkner is able to sublimate their subjective griefs into a far grander agony over the march of time itself. As such, the disparate chapters have a connecting unity.

This unity is why you should read the book. It is not possible to expect to understand the timeline of events without finishing the book as a whole. In every part there are multiform connections to the other parts. Thus in addition to understanding the plot, reading the whole book allows you to appreciate its greater resonances which only exist when taken as a complete unit.

Also, don't be embarrassed to turn supplementary material. Something that really helped me understand the Benjy chapter was when I read how each servant (Dilsey, Luster, TP, etc) serves as a chronological post in the narrator's conciousness. Then, sadly, like many great books, I think it is one whose greatness can truly be apprehended with rereading.

Damn I should reread it.
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08-21-2014 , 12:01 AM
Thanks a lot for that write up.
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08-23-2014 , 09:34 PM
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eyebooger, Garp is one of my favorite novels and Irving is one of my favorite novelists. I've read almost all of his books.
I didn't see this until after I left. Got unexpectedly hooked on Outlaws of the Marsh. Just under halfway through it. I'll be sure to read World According to Garp next.
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08-24-2014 , 09:33 AM
I've read all of John Irving's books


Garp
Owen meany
Cider house rules
Until I find you

Those are my favorites. He's a little strange but tells some great stories.
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08-24-2014 , 11:40 AM
I finished Rogues which I greatly enjoyed.

After reading Rogues, I added a bunch of books to my wish list. The one I am most looking forward to is The Fourth Wall by Walter Jon Williams. His short story in Rogues was very funny and one of the highlights. I also enjoyed some other adventure stories so I bought Sir Hereward and Mister Fitz Stories by Garth Nix. I finished the first short story and it was entertaining. The two characters are quite fun and I enjoy following their adventures. One of the reasons I bought the book is that it is only $1.99 on Amazon.

I also started Leviathan Wakes by James S. Corey. So far the book is really good. The books is much larger than I expected so it will take a while to read since I am also reading Twilight Watch by Lukyanenko. It's the third book in the Nightwatch series and it is really good. The more I read the series, the more I like it.
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08-25-2014 , 12:27 AM
I have found The Man without Qualities, Volume One by Robert Musil as translated by Wilkins and Kaiser surprisingly modern. I understand different translations of this book give it a different feel. The book was first published in 1930 and this translation was the first English translation, published in 1953. The writing style is remarkably like that of current post-modern writers. Chapters 14 and 15 are good examples of this, particularly the beginning of Chapter 14. Given that it was written in 1930 German and then translated, it is shocking that the syntax, rhythm and sentence structure is so modern. I haven't finished it but I recommend looking at it to see the writing style.
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08-25-2014 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
The Guilt Project by Vanessa Place is brilliant and engrossing. The tone is conversational like you are listening to a most persuasive and knowledgable public speaker.

From amazon:
An English court in 1736 described rape as an accusation “easily to be made and hard to be proved, and harder to be defended by the party accused, though never so innocent. ”To prove the crime, the law required a woman to physically resist, to put up a “hue and cry,” as evidence of her unwillingness. Beginning in the 1970s, however, feminist and victim-advocacy groups began changing attitudes toward rape so the crime is now seen as violent in itself: the legal definition of rape now includes everything from the sadistic serial rapist to the eighteen-year-old who has consensual sex with a fourteen-year-old.

This inclusiveness means there are now more rapists among us. And more of rape’s camp followers: the prison-makers, the community watchdogs, law-and-order politicians, and the real-crime/real-time entertainment industry. Vanessa Place examines the ambiguity of rape law by presenting cases where guilt lies, but lies uneasily, and leads into larger ethical questions of what defines guilt, what is justice, and what is considered just punishment. Assuming a society can and must be judged by the way it treats its most despicable members, The Guilt Project looks at the way the American legal system defines, prosecutes, and punishes sex offenders, how this Dateline NBC justice has transformed our conception of who is guilty and how they ought to be treated, and how this has come to undo our deeper humanity

“A California appellate attorney looks at crime and punishment under our sex laws… Place expands the notion of guilt, examining its other dimensions—factual, ethical, moral—and asks whether we’ve allowed dubious science, conflicting cultural messages and out-of-control political passions to distort our sex laws...Place detects something desperate in all this, and in richly allusive, frequently witty prose, she asks important questions about what it is exactly we want from our criminal laws. A sophisticated, brave look at a topic that too often provokes merely panic, prejudice and posturing.”—Kirkus Reviews

"A brilliant criminal defense attorney, Vanessa Place has produced a deeply personal yet meticulously researched argument that demands serious consideration by policy makers, journalists, social scientists, and informed citizens. For some, her book will inspire a thorough rethinking of how they understand rapists and their places in the criminal justice system. For others, the candid accounts and bold proposals in The Guilt Project will inspire mainly frustration or even anger. But no honest reader can deny the special insights she provides from her years of experience and careful reflection."—Barry Glassner, author of The Culture of Fear and Professor of Sociology, University of Southern California

"Judging by The Guilt Project, Vanessa Place is one tough defense attorney, though her wicked prose implies at times the soul of an angry poet. Her thesis that injustice is routinely perpetrated on sex criminals will not be popular—which is why her book should be read by anyone interested in criminology, specifically including legislators, judges, attorneys and prosecutors." —Robert Mayer, author of The Dreams of Ada: A True Story of Murder, Obsession, and a Small Town
Fk nice post I missed the quotes and was all the way through the first quoted review thinking you had wrote it

Poker has consumed my existence so I will not read this book or any other.

Our society will be judged harshly as its founders were well aware in principle if not vast dimension, "I tremble at the thought of a just god" and all that.

Interesting or perhaps not that the most scientifically backward industrialized nation features the most perverse applications of its justice system.
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08-25-2014 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnycarson
I'm sorry I missed this at first. I'll make an attempt, though I must warn that while the faculties governing my discriminating literary tastes are pristine, I am pretty inadaquate when it comes to actually writing about great writing (see, for instance, the purple prose I've speckled throughout this thread--or, if you prefer, this herniated sentence).

For starters, the book found me at an extremely chaotic time in my life, and the Compson family felt almost exactly as if it was my own. Also, I don't think I'd ever read something so "experimental" (to use the hideous word of the LitCrit), and when I finished I remember thinking "i didn't know a book could do...that." Neither of these facts will be of any help to you, but I think we can all recall a certain book that had a unique appeal for us as young readers.

More helpfully, I think Faulkner created a book that used a medium of high poetry to convey the fragmentary and fundamentally tragic condition of mankind. We are born into a world that is not our own, inherit a system of values that are not our own, and then promptly find ourselves tossed into a chaos without ever being able to truly communicate the source of this confusion. Three brothers are obsessed with their sister's early pregnancy, each experiences their grief in a profoundly different way; yet somehow Faulkner is able to sublimate their subjective griefs into a far grander agony over the march of time itself. As such, the disparate chapters have a connecting unity.

This unity is why you should read the book. It is not possible to expect to understand the timeline of events without finishing the book as a whole. In every part there are multiform connections to the other parts. Thus in addition to understanding the plot, reading the whole book allows you to appreciate its greater resonances which only exist when taken as a complete unit.

Also, don't be embarrassed to turn supplementary material. Something that really helped me understand the Benjy chapter was when I read how each servant (Dilsey, Luster, TP, etc) serves as a chronological post in the narrator's conciousness. Then, sadly, like many great books, I think it is one whose greatness can truly be apprehended with rereading.

Damn I should reread it.
The underlined paragraph is an example of outstanding writing. A pleasure to read. Perhaps I should read the book you just reviewed.
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08-29-2014 , 12:50 AM
Currently reading Lord Jim, whatever problems Conrad has with the post-colonial critics surely noone can deny that he has a wonderful writing style?
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08-29-2014 , 01:53 AM
amazing writer
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08-29-2014 , 03:15 AM
Just noticed a 6th Sandman Slim novel came out, while I haven't read the 5th. So that's what I'm reading. Finished the most recent Dresden Files and Iron Druid recently as well.
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08-29-2014 , 09:34 AM
Anyone read Ben Lerner?
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