MEH .. they have know since after season 1 that they were never getting canceled. They have know since at least half way through or near the end of S2 that they were ending in S4. The whole thing just seems like they slapped it together last minute over a few conference calls.

Except her ship was "molecularly" the same as her previous ship that blew up (I guess God did it), there was no resurrection tech whey she died (I guess God did it), she just disappears for no reason (I guess God did it), and she could just as well fulfill her destiny without dying. Her destiny was be a harbinger for the end of humanity. that doesn't necessitate dying. But even that aside, everything else they did with her was out of left field.

What did they leave behind? Any sort of medical tech, any guns and ammo, and most importantly the ships. People seem to forget that not all the Cylons are dead, not even all the enemy skinjobs are dead. 'The Colony' wasn't the enterity of the Cylon fleet, it was a sort of home base, but they had countless (literally, we don't know how many) base stars with Skinjobs and Mech's. They need the ships in case the cylons try to find them. Beyond that, they could use the actual materials of the ship for future technology, for shelter, for anything that survival would need. They would also need it to explore other worlds, in case something ****ty happens.

The only thing we know is that they kept raptors for close proximity travel, which is also another idiotic part. Why would they make some grand statement about destroying their technology to start over and then keep Raptors just cuz? And then, literally, everybody in the fleet goes along with it? Beyond all this, the retardation is in their justification. Technology continued this cycle of cylon v. human violence, so lets end it by ridding ourselves of technology. Great. Isn't Lee the thinker with foresight. Technology is inevitable. If they get rid of their advanced tech, all they're doing is resetting the clock. People will explore, discover, and create. The show even acknowledged as much by fast forwarding to the present.

Regarding your last point, separation with distance makes sense. Going to different continents doesn't. Power in numbers is universal. You only got less than 50k for your race, you stick close by for assistance if necessary, and branch out safely. If a psychotic tribe decides to ransack your colony, you don't have the time to take a raptor to Africa for assistance.

Exactly. The only hurdle they had was the writers strike, which is why they ended that season with them finding earth. After that, they were allowed another season, and in fact, a full 5th season but they chose not to. BSG is Sci-Fi's Sopranos. It made the channel legitimate with critics, and had the viewers to match. They were going nowhere, and could've planned accordingly.

Thug - are you going to watch any of the new show Caprica?

Although this is very cynical of me, part of me feels that BSG was left so open-ended as it was so that they could draw those looking for some answers to their new show, Caprica.

Except when odama stubs his toe and dies from an infection because the doctor is halfway around the world. lol, this stuff is pretty nitty but really stands out when they dont have any big stuff to distract you with.

Oh hell yes. It looks great. As much as I'll rant about the ending, I still believe this show, through the very last episode, is a top tier in the TV pantheon. I won't expect answers to the questions I have about the BSG series, but I'll enjoy more insight if they offer it. Also, don't forget the tv movie that shows the Cylon side from before and up to the attack, that will likely have more information regarding the current series than Caprica. Both look brilliant, though. The most interesting part of Caprica, to me, is the contrast with the current series. BSG was so dark, and depraved. Caprica takes place before humanity had to make bloody, hard decisions. So it's paradise's downfall. Which is a cool contrast, and also the ONLY interesting thing, to me, about the essentially valueless flashbacks.

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The thing that makes the mistakes and laziness stand out in this show is that it was by far one of the best shows on TV. And defiantly the best Sci Fi show ever. So when the writers get sloppy and do stupid things it stands out like a sore thumb.

it is also frustrating that they are able to make a show that is so fantastic with such a minimal effort. This points out the total abject horribleness of many other shows.

Finally watched it.

Terrific two-part ending

part 1: exciting, battling, against-the-odds courage and bravery, as good as any battle and war I've seen on TV or the movies.

part 2: A complete wind down and catharsis to the whole, enormously tense 4 seasons.

Hell, there was a million loose ends. but it doesn't really matter much, right? right.

I like the show. But, I don't know. Seems a reach to think that the conviction to leave technology behind would have been so communally complete. I don't find it believable at all and doubt the conviction would have lasted longer than the first snow fall or broken bone.

Seems like it would have been a lot more believable if they gave up technology to help avoid being found by Cylons searching for them or something like that.

Other logical oddities: Cavil killing himself, Lee talking about wanting to explore a crappy little planet when he could be exploring the universe, angel Baltar, Tighe not wanting to stay with Adama, the whole thing being God drive, the dead raptor pilot's hand firing the rockets that blew up the colony ship

Galen going to Ireland was perfect.

Here's another question I had (and maybe the show answered it at some point and I missed it), but do Cylons age as in the Final Five and all of the leftover 2s, 6s, and 8s will grow old and die on new Earth?

I wondered along those lines myself, particularly when the final five traveled to the colonies to try to stop the creation of cylons, which took 2000 years. Did they just grow old, die, then resurrect (rinse/repeat) the whole way? If they addressed it, I missed it as well.

I think they explained it as the Earth cylons not having FTL drives, so they traveled near the speed of light to get there. When traveling so fast, time passes slowly for them as compared to the rest of the universe. The whole relativity thing. Still silly imo... final five could've been waaaay cooler.

Thank you for the info. I still wonder about Hobby's question.

Show over, thread over, but wtf, I finally finished it so I'm gonna post.

I loved the show, though I was disappointed in the ending to some degree. Deep Space Nine was mentioned a couple times in the thread; I gave up on that show because of all the mysticism crap they kept throwing in ( I couldn't make myself give a damn about the friggin' Prophets). It felt like a cop out and the wrap-up of BSG feels similar.

I think a lot of what hurt the end of the series was Moore taking his eye off the ball getting involved with other projects. This shouldn't have been allowed to happen. Let him finish the series, then make the money grab.

To the point of HH's quote: a lot of TV SF is pretty lame but the better written page SF is decidedly not. I can't imagine the old masters Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, Bradbury et al allowing a story to hinge on such weak mysticism.

Read Clarke's Childhood's End to get a taste of well-written 'God-driven' science fiction.

Caprica pilot has leaked.

Just saw it on a newsgroup.