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Oh right. I'm in Sweden though, the episodes aren't available online until late Friday night in the US, which means early Saturday morning over here. But yeah whatever, still psyched!
Such a horrible ending. Baltar suddenly stepping on a pulpit, out of nowhere, and then Cavil going along with it after spending the entirety of the series not giving a modicum of ground in his stance towards the god/angel/human-cylon kumbaya shtick, Cavil committing suicide out of nowhere, Kara disappearing for no reason (OOOOOOOO SHE"S AN ANGEL!), the entire population agreeing (retardedly) to give up every bit of technology to become one with nature and start over, coming back full circle to present day with a cute wink-wink (gay cameo, rdm, sorry). So much ****, I can't believe people actually think this is satisfying. I can't help but think this all somehow relates back to Ron Moore gushing over Chase's Sopranos ending, wishing he could come up with something as original and fitting.
Ron Moore apparently went into the writers room and wrote on the white-board "It's the characters, stupid!", going on to say that the plot doesn't matter. Sure, it doesn't matter, up until several key plot points go ignored because you can't come up with an explanation and decide to hide behind vague symbolism. You don't need to answer every single question, but massive holes in the plot do need some lip service. Listen to the podcast commentary for the episode where Starbuck dies. His decision to do that was literally "dude, wouldn't it be totally sweet if we killed off starbuck?" Making a series impacting decision like that, then turning it on it's head demands something. Pulling some Kung-fu ninja **** layered with a mystical flute doesn't cut it. Also, this is coming from somebody who thinks the entire series was about as perfect as could be given the dozens of episodes it had to run consistently through.
That said, the new Caprica show looks to be cool as hell.
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Review part two:
Spoiler:
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. When Lucas executes an idea better than you, you done ****ed up. Setting BSG in the past was a weak ass move, and completely unoriginal.
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"But, but, but-"
"God did it silly!"
What a crock of ****.
Last edited by Thug Bubbles; 03-21-2009 at 01:20 AM.
While it was a good ending, it was not the ending I think *a lot* of people were hoping for.
I am disappointed in how it ended, but satisified with the whole.
Kind of like how LotR ROTK won all the Oscars, but in and of itself it didn't deserve any IMO, they were nods to the entire trilogy which was deserved. Same thing here. I think these last 2 episodes were not nearly as great as what lead up to them.
Edit: Guess people are putting things in spoiler tags for a reason.
Spoiler:
I mostly liked it. Yes I could nitpick and point out stuff that's pretty stupid and inconsistent about the plot or whatever, but right now I don't care to. Ultimately, I think it IS about the characters, and I'm left with a pretty satisfied feeling. Although, yeah, there should have been a few more episodes of finishing everything up. Whatever.
The very last scene 150k years into the future was pretty cheesy, but I dunno if I really disliked it. It is pretty funny of RDM to write that cameo appearance. Really really cheesy, but you know, funny
Also, <Balthar>: "Great"
might be the funniest line of the entire series. <3 Balthar.
Crock of **** confirmed. What a horrible ending to a great show. I mean, really, really, what a horrible ending.
There was this part of me that did not want to watch the ending because I was almost certain it would disappoint a ton. I wish I had listened...
Spoiler:
A. I saw the whole "it's going to be in the past" thing coming a mile away.
B. Nothing was resolved except the most fundamental plot, unless you call that "God's plan" crap resolution.
C. The amount of ridiculous plot turns/holes ruined it. Really? EVERYONE wants to give up technology? You can't pry the average person away from their iPod for 5 minutes, but all of a sudden all of humanity just says "F technology, I want to live in prehistory where I'm guaranteed to die in 5 years"?
D. With all the themes going on in the show, all the ways they could have ended it in a more meaningful manner, they pulled the religion faith argument out of the trashbin of theology 101 essays and based the ending on it and then didn't force any of the characters to make serious decisions aside from Gaius, and didn't force any personal epiphanies or anything, just closure without change - fluff without meaning.
E. M Night personally wrote the ending I think. It was that lame of a twist. Damn...
F. Maybe there's a "real" ending that got cut because it was too depressing. The whole thing just reeks of "thrown together at the last minute", although to be honest a lot of the show did seem fairly ad hoc.
G. There were some good points, the tie-ins with pre-war were nice, but it really fell flat given the overall direction of the episode
P.S. the "long time ago" thing referenced time in the SW universe if I'm not mistaken. It was in relation to the "present" which, if I'm not more mistaken, would be in the final, never-made trilogy.
For me BSG has been all downhill after season 2. To have the series finale be a rescue attempt for a single human cylon hybrid is a joke. How many humans are left ?? It seems most of the human race has forgotton what trouble they're in.
I'm watching the last ep and the 1st 5 minutes are a sleeper. Watching Apollo and starbuck have dinner discussing politics ? wtf
I think it's been 3 seasons since I've seen a decent episode of bsg.
A little more of the Graham Hancock lost civilization twist (making Adama into the white bearded guy in the mayan spaceship) would have suited me. But then, that would be 12,500 years ago.
well now that I've found the real thread i'll post what I post in OOT
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I agree then ending was disappointing. The first half was good, big space battle and all, jump to earth was cool, but then what did we get after that? A bunch of environmentalist nonsense, 'cities? no not this time". A cliched morality tale of how we are destroying our earth. They all split up "To increase their chance of survival?" After all they had been through to just leave each other seems pretty silly.
The scene at the end in modern day earth completely destroyed the story they were trying to tell. The entire series had led us to believe that their civilization had lost our earth and they were our future. To turn it around that they were actually in our past and we were repeating their mistakes was laughable. OH NOES!!! ROBOTS ARE CYLONS!!!
The writers seriously got lazy and phoned in that ending. Although I agree the part where roslin died was good and the part where kara just diappeared was cool.
Id say it was the biggest disapointment to any serious I've seen. The mess of an ending that was babylon 5 was better, lol.
I just watched it and I was crying like a baby, I thought it was awesome, ok it bounced back to a strip bar once to many times but I feel satisified with the ending and I felt they did a great job.
Come on that was a great ending in my opinon, I dont know what production house was behind bsg but they delivered in spades, Im thankfull for the A class entertainment.
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