this.
Honestly, nothing against you bond bc the OP was a good read but I think the quote above is the best post in this thread so far.

Reminded me of this one quote from Bear Bryant: "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride...and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of Victory is High but so are the rewards." I feel its a good one to remind all of us that struggle with this that sitting around not taking action with 0 confidence gets you nowhere in life.

hahahah actually lol'd at this imaging the reaction of a girl if some guy actually dropped that line as an opener to her.


def one of the best threads Ive read in awhile, thanks Bond.

Confidence + don't dress like a DB + small talk + make her laugh = success with women.

It's really that simple.

Now this I 100% agree with. This is why we qualify women.

A. Well I rarely talk about it during the initial interaction (though it absolutely happens sometimes, but I'm much more subtle about it then "Hey let's smoke pot sometimes!) but if a girl hangs out with me it's gonna come out that I like to smoke. If she likes to smoke too, or simply does it occasionally, then I suggest that we blaze together some time.

Seems like an awful lot of women I meet smoke from time to time (few are genuine pot heads) but that might just be like minds attracting.

B. I started gaining more genuine confidence with women right around the time I met my ex but still a lot of it was not so solid. Even still, I was a generally very social and out going guy at the time so I wasn't completely lost. Dating her for 3 1/2 years really helped grow me as a person and a man.

Bingo. I never neg in the traditional sense period, but during the day it's an especially bad idea.

haha I like that. That's good. I never really thought about it that way even though I've always "qualified" them.

There really is only about 5% of the female population - IF THAT - that is physically attractive enough to be datable.

After that you have to weed out the crazies, the lazies, the clingers, and the club rats (the ones in clubs 3+ days a week; its all they live for).

There are more criteria, but those are always automatically rejected on the spot.

ty bond18 for answering

a friend of mine started this pua thing 2 years ago and he said i should read a book he gave me.
i did read the first part and i didnt like the manipulative way
it recommended to treat women and thought
if im gonna find a girl she has to like me how i am and im not gonna act like somebody else just to get what i want.

but the idea and the way you talk about the pua thing is a pretty good thing
and i had a couple of the thoughts you were talking about itt too but never had the guts to walk straight up to a woman to talk to her yet.

i believe this is all about confidence in life and not about getting woman in bed.
there are for sure people who do this just to get sex but each to his own.
i would not do it just to get sex. i like women and i want to treat them good have a good time with them and so on.

what do you think is a good way to start with this pickupartist thing?
i mean besides reading your threads/blog.
i want to know this from you since i think we are having the same
opininons on some topics here.
you are living it and i want to learn it

PUA is not about manipulation, if anything, PUA is about self improvement.
Being successful with women means being accepting of yourself, and comfortable with who you are. It also being best the VERY BEST YOU, that you can possibly be.
Women won't go for the whiny nice guy, they want a strong man who can make decisions.
Take your life into your own hands and be that strong man who makes decisions, and by doing so vastly improves the quality of his life.

A good place to starts is reading all the classic books, and taking the essence out of them. There's a bunch of bullcrap in each PUA book, but they have a fair amount of things in common. It's these things you want to take and use.
I started out with "Seduction Science" by David DeAngelo. Although I must say, Mister DeAngelo is not really a PUA, he just abuses his better than average looks.

I agree about negging not being the way to go during daytime. However, between using a compliment and a neg as opener, there is a vast grey space.

if you actually go out and talk to a girl during the day without acting nerdish or ******ed you wont have to write such sarcastic comments to make yourself feel better

man you are cooler

besides im 18 so that probably makes things waaay different for me since girls way of thinking changes greatly between 18 and .. 25 for example

nop..attraction isnt related with eh way of thinking

so i'm 18 and a freshman in college. i found pua 6 months ago and started reading it in detail a month ago after i realized i sucked with girls and knew nothing about how to interact with them cause i'd ignored them throughout high school in favor of poker. i've never kissed a girl so far in fact, which is pretty lol, but fortunately once i got to college i realized girls>porn

so my questions are 1. how long do you think it will take until i become successful with women 2. any specific resources you'd recommend for 18 year olds in college (i know you recommend Nick Savoy's Lovesystems, but anything else for younger college guys besides Conquer Your Campus, which I doubt will work in my specific case for reasons I'll now describe) 3. what techniques would you use to hook up at parties in college (in my specific situation social proofing won't work very well bc i go to a small college and i don't have a lot of friends who party)

tyvm. i appreciate it cause i can tell you're really good at this ****.

So why do you have to keep doing this? You bang a chic and then she never wants to see you again so you have to constantly go look for more? Especially pulling a chic during the day sober seems more realitionshippy.

Maybe you should concentrate on your lack of performance n the sack and you won't have to run around star bucks.

why the sour grapes? ygos?

Very good advice Bond... I do not exercise approaching girls int he day maybe twice a year i would do this to an un known stranger i prefer just going out to student bars as it is a million times easier.

'Be confident and be yourself' I agree this is not advice with out any substance, but fundamentally it is true. It boils down to belief and belief can either be acquired through observation and experiment or just by plain imagination. So it can work like a light switch.

To be good with girls you have to believe you are good with girls. To approach a girl in the day you just have to believe you will approach them confidently and you have to believe you are a dominant force. Of course experience and practice indirectly naturally builds this up too.

The most attractive thing to most girls from my experience is having a strong disciplined assertive mannerism rather without uncertainty, which fundamentally relies on belief or confidence in ones self. Just having the discipline to lock eye contact and not break it despite emotions that can well up from there sexual appearance can show this,

Strangely enough if they smile at you and you reisst your natural urge to smile back but just keep looking them in the eye this works as well and sometimes they start giglling as the barrier is being basically 'broken' by your will. I'm pretty sure it bioils down to instincts developed in our history where females are dependant even though in this day and age they can be very independent. I'm guessing due to Bonds status he goes for these strong minded independent women more so, so it is knowledge on these which i lack very much and i have actually absorbed alot from OP about this indirectly i think.

Meh, my thoughts aside, i appreciate your expression of knowledge and experience Bond so thanks, all the best

what's my play?

- my background: coming out of 2.5 yr relationship, above average looks, above average confidence (but looking to improve), getting back in the game. was actually reading the thread ab internet dating on the plane while this girl was napping, gave me a little boost to make something happen..

Met a chick on the plane the other day, felt great about the way things went and now feel even better after reading this. I was witty, didn't smile too much, made her feel comfortable, and said "we should get drinks sometime, what's your number" but waited til we were getting off the plane so as it wasn't awkward the whole flight.

The only thing I really regret was not really giving the impression that I was into her. I guess suggesting drinks takes care of that? I dunno.

So we got the nice-to-meet-yous out of the way. She was reading the Sky Mall magazine and said, "OMG I have to show this to someone" and showed me this ridiculous cat training potty that we laughed about:



so 3 days after the flight I text: "took your advice. purchased the kitty potty. works wonders. forever grateful, (me)" she says back "haha I'm so glad to hear that!"

That was last night and I havent txted or called back since. what's my play? thx, and thanks Bond for the OP.

BEAR BRYANT QUOTE FTW!!

my post above was from a flight back from Pasadena, RTR!

I just wish that after she responded to your text you would have said, "The only problem is that I am having a lot of trouble staying on this tiny seat when using the kitty potty."

howwwww did i not think of that?

My problem is not trying enough . I'm a really confident and fun guy (never not been able to make a girl laugh) and I think Im missing out on so much by not trying. Im also not an overly "nice" guy i.e. pushover allthough when i get nervous around a hot girl I might tend to slip into a "nicer" role. I also look pretty good when I dress well but I dont have many nice clothes and I know little about fashion :/.

The reasons I dont try so much is. 1: the initial "approach" is hard for me but past that its really easy. nr2. I dont go to places where I meet women often. So

I dont know what to do, where will I find women? Perhaps the street is all I need? By that I mean approaching during the day.

Great Stuff Bond,

IMHO. There is some good stuff in there. I agree with not using 'excuse me."

I think the stats on direct approaches may be wrong since direct approaches are so affected by the individual PUA's outer game (body language, clothes, looks, etc).

Interraction time varies per interaction. I've had several 7 hour sets and many 2 minute sets....that hooked.

You dont need to wear a suit for daygame but dress well (stylish).

Arranging the date during the sarge is good - it's an old PU101 anti-flake tactic.

-Cuisine
Daygamer.net (Day and Night Game Coach).

I dont need any of this stupid advice as I am very good looking.

i saw mr bond at crown a few weeks ago, he was playing in the millions i assume.

it looked like he was being stalked by a mischievous looking Asian girl, one of your experiments bond??

Bond and others,

Have any of you guys tried approaching a random girl and saying something like "Hey, I couldn't help but notice you have an amazing smile. I've got to get going, but here's my number. You should call me." ?

I spend most of my time on a college campus. Got this idea from a girl I knew who met a guy this way (the guy did this, on college campus). Admittedly he was very good looking and I am regular looking.

It's fast and easy and you know any girl that texts/calls is at least semi-interested.

I'm wondering how likely this is to work.

Thoughts?