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01-10-2010 , 08:41 PM
Def tldr, Cliffs anywhere?
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01-10-2010 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
Def tldr, Cliffs anywhere?
nah just read it...believe me its worth it
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01-10-2010 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mused01
bond, did you have confidence even in your infant stages of PU. i mean i understand that you probably have a lot more confidence now, but would you say confidence is somewhat instinctive?
Depends. I first saw PU literature at the age of 19, and at that time I had some general confidence but ZERO confidence with women.

I didn't properly get involved in it all until I was 24, and at that point I plenty of natural confidence but I was just out of a 3 1/2 year relationship so I wasn't exactly sharp on my dating though i was pretty certain that if I worked hard at it I'd become good.
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01-10-2010 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
i know you cant, that was my point. the guys who lack confidence wont be able to approach women as you instruct them to in OP.
LOL, I've seen how it's done. I have no confidence at all, but I can approach women using the techniques I've seen my friend do and the techniques posted in this guide and get phone numbers easy.
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01-10-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mishink7
nah just read it...believe me its worth it
Alright I'll take your word for it and clear my schedule for the rest of the day.

Alright i read it and I was never good at the day time approach. I do have a friend that is great at it.

If I were single I would actually give it a try after reading this.

Was def worth the read.

Last edited by nuisance; 01-10-2010 at 10:37 PM.
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01-11-2010 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 7ashiYo
One of the most succesful openers of all time is a so called female opinion opener; which is exactly what it sounds like.
Example: "Hi, I just got a new kitten today, and I'm still very much in doubt between two names. I definitely need a female opinion, and I'm pretty sure you can provide me with one =)."
Stuff like this gets them 99% of the time, and it's easy to slip into conversation.

Just my 2 cents = )
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Originally Posted by Bond18
When it comes to your kitten line, I have a policy of not blatantly making things up in order to chat up girls. Considering I'm going to try her back to my apartment at some point, the jig is gonna be up pretty fast when there's no kitten there.
I agree with mush of what you are saying here Bond but I have successfully used the female opinion line countless times long before I ever heard of it in PU. You don't have to make something up. There are a million things you can use.

My current favorite is asking them how they handle facebook and IM with exes. Do you take them off altogether or leave them on? It has the benefit of showing value (you had a girlfriend recently) and that you are a compassionate person that doesn't want to hurt feelings (good wiring and protector of loved ones.) It is also a good convo starter and fb and IM is like chick crack. Once the conversation is going, then you can throw out a compliment and proceed accordingly.
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01-11-2010 , 01:01 AM
Nothing particularly wrong with opinion opening, but I'm not gonna create fictional animals/people to do it with.
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01-11-2010 , 01:11 AM
Well-written OP but wow. The amount of effort suggested here is astounding, daytime is not the paytime imo.
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01-11-2010 , 01:19 AM
step 1: watch bond
step 2: take notes
step 3: go pro.
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01-11-2010 , 05:22 AM
Me & Bond could make a solid training site on getting women imo.
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01-11-2010 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gr8erThanGr8
Me & Bond could make a solid training site on getting women imo.
who are you?
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01-11-2010 , 06:31 AM
okay so i'm going to read this over again tomorrow morning before class and try a direct approach on sometime. will write a trip report.
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01-11-2010 , 06:51 AM
you guys are better than me at playing poker and meeting girls. this first post is the start of something beautiful.
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01-11-2010 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bond18
Not to pick on you dude, but I disagree with near everything you have written. I've quoted the specific parts to address them individually.

First off, pretty much every seriously experienced guy at day game in pick up community agrees that opening direct with a compliment is best. Janka has done over 10,000 approaches, Soul 4,000, and every other experienced guy would agree.
Maybe this is different for day game and/or women that are not in the top range looks wise, but if you compliment a woman that is A. (very) attractive and B. knows that she is, then you are done.
UNLESS of course she really likes what she's seeing.

The female opinion opener does not need to be about a kitten, it was just an example that adds a little bit of cuteness.

Considering the sex part, I'm 22, I take it you are a bit older, and dealing with older women. In that case bringing up sex more directly is less of an issue. It's also not a problem at all when she's already eyeshagging you, then u can pretty much say whatever the hell u want.
Also; this:
"As far as bringing up sex goes, there are tons of ways of doing it. I often do it highly directly. I've had conversations with girls (not when I go approach them during the day, but certainly on dates or in bar/clubs/social situations) where I said things like "Of course I'm trying to sleep with you, I'm a guy and you're an attractive girl. I'm not going to condescend to you by pretending I'm not interested in that, and if you think about it you should be a hell of a lot more concerned with the idea of my not trying to sleep with you than the opposite."

is not being direct to be honest, that's a display of wit. By sort of wowing her with the this insightful point of view, you have introduced sex in a way that is not threatening to her.

I think we are just discussing an entirely different category of women here, to be honest. College students =/= working women.
I'm used to picking up very tappable to straight up bombshell students, and my game has proven extremely efficient for those.

Most importantly I'd just like to say most of the stuff you've written is solid advice that I agree on, although in the end, each woman is different and has to be handled differently thus.

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01-11-2010 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mused01
bond, did you have confidence even in your infant stages of PU. i mean i understand that you probably have a lot more confidence now, but would you say confidence is somewhat instinctive?
To be honest, there is no such thing as confidence. It's a ****ing gimmick.
"Confidence" is what you pump yourself up to "have" and "exhibit" and "radiate" and whatnot.

From where I stand, there is 0% confidence, i.e. not knowing for sure that you are able to succesfully attract women, and 100% confidence which is knowing for sure.

If you are in a stage where "confidence" is still in the back of your mind, then you're not there yet and hence at 0% confidence, for it is fake or incomplete confidence.

You have to LIVE the mindset that YOU are the catch, YOU are the SELECTOR, otherwise you will fail.

A hardcore exercise to gain "confidence" in meeting hot women is the following:

For 2-3 weeks straight, go out every day, and go talk to at least 5 different women that you find attractive. It does not matter what you talk about , what kind of reaction you get, all that matters is that you learn to be comfortable around women you find (very) attractive.
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01-11-2010 , 03:28 PM
you wrote in your op that you like to go smoke pot with girls could you pls elaborate on this?

and 2nd question you said you had no confidence with women when you were 19-24 or whatever. but you had a 3.5 year relationship. how did you find that girl who didnt care that you have no confidence when you were around her? i think that you definitly had confidence with women in that time?
i ask this because i do not have confidence currently with women and everything else.

i enjoyed your article gonna search for more of them.
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01-11-2010 , 03:57 PM
your posts are always of great quality however you r not really writing about anything new and about anything that most ppl are unaware of
what i find quite interesting is that u wear a suit and that some guy actually scores 70% winrate ( so to say ^_^ ) which is pretty amazing but other than its all standard
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01-11-2010 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Spitfire
your posts are always of great quality however you r not really writing about anything new and about anything that most ppl are unaware of
what i find quite interesting is that u wear a suit and that some guy actually scores 70% winrate ( so to say ^_^ ) which is pretty amazing but other than its all standard
What is standard for you is probably not for a majority of posters.
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01-11-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spitfire
your posts are always of great quality however you r not really writing about anything new and about anything that most ppl are unaware of
what i find quite interesting is that u wear a suit and that some guy actually scores 70% winrate ( so to say ^_^ ) which is pretty amazing but other than its all standard
man you are cool
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01-11-2010 , 07:23 PM
Interesting, i just red Bond's first post and i found some mistakes
Indeed as 7ashiYo posted, opening with a compliment isn't great at all, unless u ballance it by pointing a flaw in the same time, but doing it 'tenderly'
Second of all, this is really really important:
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You have to LIVE the mindset that YOU are the catch, YOU are the SELECTOR, otherwise you will fail.
So, in the op article, next time when u tell a girl 'i enjoy spending time with you so we should meet again bla bla' make it 'i know you are enjoying spending time with me, and now it would be a good time to give me ure phone number etc.'. The main ideea is that u need to change the perspective and tell everything through her, that way u will look a lot more confident in her eyes and in the same time u wont be a wuss/kiss ass, u will be something new for her...something interesting and attractive.And this kind of reply's may lead to teasing and other stuff that are really important in building attraction.
About the sex thing, i think it's not really useful to necesairly bring up the sex discussion, if the girl is comfortable with you, she will come with you home, then u need to take it step by step, actually everything from picking up to sex is made in steps, once u cross a barrier u go to the next wich you need to cross and etc..
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01-11-2010 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by badtyrant
step 1: watch bond
step 2: take notes
step 3: go pro.
You forgot the two most crucial steps.

Step 4: ????
Step 5: Profit.
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01-11-2010 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinsst
Interesting, i just red Bond's first post and i found some mistakes
Indeed as 7ashiYo posted, opening with a compliment isn't great at all, unless u ballance it by pointing a flaw in the same time, but doing it 'tenderly'
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Although what you say is standard PUA material. I think the idea that it is day game does change the dynamic. So few women get approached during the day that a well timed and sincerly delivered compliment is going to have a totally different effect than the same line to the same girl at a bar 8 hours later.

Also, delivering a "neg" to the same girl during the day is most certainly not as effective as it is at night imo.
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01-11-2010 , 11:07 PM
Just tried approaching a random girl today. I saw her lost in two different buildings so I shot her a "having trouble finding a class?" she was very receptive and explained her situation. there was a natural pause where I knew I should introduce myself but didn't, wasn't that interested in her. still, made me realize most people are probably as friendly as her and will at least give you a chance. so i'm going to be more comfortable approaching now.
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01-12-2010 , 02:00 AM
i prefer the, I LIEK TURTLES
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01-12-2010 , 02:22 AM
Since we ar on the topic of winrate, what is your percentage you get to showdown?

LOL poker references!

nah just playing, good read as always bond
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