Words of warning - My story with Brendon “Brendooor/Brendon1717” Rubie:

[CiB]

For the benefit of the poker community, would it be possible to divulge the SNs of the accounts which were involved in multi-accounting?

As he has had ample opportunity to respond to this thread, it would be fair to other players (who comply with TOS) to forward this information to Pokerstars in order for them to investigate.

He was playing tournaments as recently as today.

59010761 7-Feb-12 14:28 NL Holdem $100 R 1/83 $5,339.07

[bazooka87]

Originally Posted by CoolWaTeR

100K to someone with a networth of 1mil is identical to 10K to someone with a networth of 100K.

hahahaha what?

[CoolWaTeR]

Originally Posted by bazooka87

hahahaha what?

Not sure I am capable of rephrasing that any differently.

[marek_heinz]

Well, its definitely not true

[rumnchess]

Originally Posted by CoolWaTeR

100K to someone with a networth of 1mil is identical to 10K to someone with a networth of 100K.

Absurd statement

[bazooka87]

Originally Posted by CoolWaTeR

Not sure I am capable of rephrasing that any differently.

As the two above have pointed out, it's not the phrasing that I'm questioning!

[Chuck Bass]

Originally Posted by SEABEAST

what about someone with a net worth of $0, who is already in a bunch of separate debt to you? do you really need to remind them that they owe you an extra $10k in addition to their makeup or risk that debt somehow expiring?

It's not reminding, it's informing if I got this right. And "a bunch" is relative since we know how tournaments work and you can lose for ages and then clear it all in one night.

But yeah obviously 100% on Jono's side here otherwise and that was a minor issue compared to the brendoor scam. I don't really see how anyone could think he doesn't owe the full amount.

[mitch_gach]

Originally Posted by 663366

Just wondering, what are the odds these days of ANY highstakes winning player in MTT or cash who will play highstakes for at least 5 years and not at least do one of the following: multi-account, involve in a coaching scam, ghost, datamine, smuggle live chips, involve in staking scandal, account-share, set up poker business of any kind to scam players, etc etc??

And to think that those who have been caught are a tiny % of the true number who have done something bad....

Poker Players gonna be Poker Players

[gostatego]

obviously feel bad for monster dong but he knew this guy's character and still backed him. it was just extra rake or its like he had a lower ROI than he did cuz of the % chance he would scam.

[livegrinder]

Stop staking people.

[Parts Unknown]

Originally Posted by livegrinder

Stop staking people.

lol stop posting

[Starcr0ss3d]

Not right that he dicked Dong, but..

Originally Posted by gostatego

he [Dong] knew this guy's character and still backed him.

[Dantes]

Originally Posted by Starcr0ss3d

Not right that he dicked Dong, but..

icwudt

[hoodskier]

Originally Posted by Chuck Bass

Am I the only one who thinks that it feels slightly wrong that Jono didn't inform brendoor of the debt immediately but rather let him grind it out and informed him only afterwards? I can't really explain it but it doesn't feel right to me and I would be pretty tilted if my backer did the same. Can't think of a worse feeling than "yay I cleared my make-up" "Umm, well actually you didn't".

It doesn't change the fact the brendoor obviously owes the whole amount and appears to be scummy, and not defending himself makes it even worse. Not too surprising though since I have yet to hear a positive thing about this kid. Tough villain to play against for sure tho. GL getting that sponsorship now!

I agree he should have been informed about the $10k, I don't think it absolves him of the debt but it certainly makes enough difference to make it debatable. I do think he owes the $10k but it's close.

Originally Posted by SEABEAST

what about someone with a net worth of $0, who is already in a bunch of separate debt to you? do you really need to remind them that they owe you an extra $10k in addition to their makeup or risk that debt somehow expiring?

I also understand this logic from the backer's perspective as well.

Originally Posted by CoolWaTeR

100K to someone with a networth of 1mil is identical to 10K to someone with a networth of 100K.

lol, you can't possibly be that dumb... can you?

[hoodskier]

Apparently he's not that good at poker anyway

Poker Stars, $40 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11855182

YYYeaHHH (UTG+2): 28,990 (36.2 bb)
What0ver9000 (MP1): 9,560 (12 bb)
00psiedaisy (MP2): 11,680 (14.6 bb)
I Wayne (MP3): 9,502 (11.9 bb)
brendon1717 (CO): 16,158 (20.2 bb)
illestB (BTN): 13,052 (16.3 bb)
Hero (SB): 18,825 (23.5 bb)
Somogyi360 (BB): 10,760 (13.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
4 folds, brendon1717 raises to 1,600, illestB folds, Hero raises to 18,725 and is all-in, Somogyi360 folds, brendon1717 calls 14,458 and is all-in

Flop: (33,716) K J 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (33,716) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (33,716) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: 33,716 pot
Final Board: K J 3 A 8
brendon1717 showed J K and won 33,716 (17,558 net)
Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-16,158 net)

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edit:

hoodskier: hey brendon you gonna pay jono that money you owe him?
hoodskier: guess that's a no?

Poker Stars, $40 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11855192

YYYeaHHH (MP1): 14,363 (14.4 bb)
What0ver9000 (MP2): 28,045 (28 bb)
SupaGlunya (MP3): 5,524 (5.5 bb)
00psiedaisy (CO): 9,355 (9.4 bb)
I Wayne (BTN): 7,177 (7.2 bb)
brendon1717 (SB): 34,616 (34.6 bb)
illestB (BB): 12,227 (12.2 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 9,134 (9.1 bb)
Somogyi360 (UTG+2): 5,735 (5.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K A
Hero raises to 9,009 and is all-in, 6 folds, brendon1717 raises to 33,000, illestB folds

Flop: (20,143) 6 8 K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (20,143) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (20,143) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 20,143 pot
Final Board: 6 8 K 7 7
brendon1717 showed T A and lost (-9,134 net)
Hero showed K A and won 20,143 (11,009 net)

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hoodskier: nice rejam thief