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09-30-2015 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowniwn
All in all who cares because both of your reputations remain perfect...
I disagree. European has come of great. Pads has come off as someone I wouldn't want to do business with.

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I was probably wrong in this case, but had good intentions.
I don't doubt that you had good intentions but you were very clearly in the wrong twice with regards to this bet, which is something you can't afford to be doing if you want to maintain a flawless reputation in the gambling community.
09-30-2015 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
In terms of this quote which I find ****ing offensive

I'm pretty sure you are just saying this because you know I like to bet against you in highrollers/super high rollers but thats completely different to a public bet.

No, I don't care if you like to bet against me. I found your behaviour ITT terrible.

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Kinda oi now anyway, won't do any of these bets in the future, I was probably wrong in this case, but had good intentions. People ended up saving money so karma prevailed I guess and I will forfeit the $3k with Dan, or we can donate it to REG charity or something.
You aren't forfeiting anything, you have absolutely no claim to it because you CANCELED ALL YOUR BETS IN THIS THREAD. The very large difference with the Fedor and Wushu bets is that you talked with them on skype to arrange new bets.
09-30-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KingDan
No, I don't care if you like to bet against me. I found your behaviour ITT terrible.



You aren't forfeiting anything, you have absolutely no claim to it because you CANCELED ALL YOUR BETS IN THIS THREAD. The very large difference with the Fedor and Wushu bets is that you talked with them on skype to arrange new bets.


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09-30-2015 , 02:42 PM
omfg that gif
09-30-2015 , 02:57 PM
bring me dat popcorn!
09-30-2015 , 03:39 PM
hu4rollz?
09-30-2015 , 04:53 PM
Best gif I be seen in a long time. Also lol at the discussion itt
09-30-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

But anyway to conclude, I think its fair that our bet is cancelled even though I 100% did assume that we were still on because mutually played shouldn't change anything.



[05/09/2015 00:53:43] wushutm: so bet is canceled?
[05/09/2015 22:42:31] Patrick Leonard: hey bro
[05/09/2015 22:42:32] Patrick Leonard: u here?
[05/09/2015 22:43:28] Patrick Leonard: hey i cancelled all ym bets because I’m ill, but we should bet still. lets do all mutually played tournies. I’m gonna play everything unless I’m v ill anyway so it prob better for you anyway. just lmk here if we booked (y)
[05/09/2015 23:35:40] wushutm: ok if kickoff doesnt Count, than its fine for me
[05/09/2015 23:38:46] Patrick Leonard: ok
[05/09/2015 23:38:59] Patrick Leonard: np
[05/09/2015 23:39:02] Patrick Leonard: 1k$?
[06/09/2015 01:24:58] wushutm: u still mean all mutual wcoop tourneys or all mutual tourneys?
[06/09/2015 01:30:11] wushutm: only doing all mutual wcoop tourneys
[06/09/2015 01:32:34] wushutm: n 1k is fine
[06/09/2015 01:50:42] Patrick Leonard: booked
[06/09/2015 01:50:46] Patrick Leonard: only no limit
[06/09/2015 01:53:45] wushutm: (y)
[06/09/2015 15:05:26] wushutm: Btw knockouts only the progressiv counts right?
[06/09/2015 15:30:59] Patrick Leonard: Yes


[02/09/2015 03:55:33] fedor: hey
[02/09/2015 03:55:36] fedor: are you still open for a bet?
[02/09/2015 13:48:16] Patrick Leonard: Sure what do you wanna bet
[02/09/2015 15:21:13] fedor: WCOOP
[02/09/2015 15:23:56] Patrick Leonard: Yeh I mean terms
[02/09/2015 15:24:35] fedor: the ones european posted
[02/09/2015 15:25:39] Patrick Leonard: Ok
[02/09/2015 15:25:57] Patrick Leonard: Let's just do $1k on vs me and $1k vs euro
[02/09/2015 15:26:45] fedor: ok
[02/09/2015 15:27:27] Patrick Leonard: No escrow obv
[02/09/2015 15:29:57] fedor yes
[02/09/2015 15:30:02] fedor: so same terms, 1k each booked


And rest assured I wasn't danloulouing on Skype trying to get action from weak regs etc.
Hey Pads,

I'm not sure if you posted the chats to indicate that your bet with Dan ought to be on, but if anything it clearly indicates that it is off. Fedor and Wushu both assumed bet was off until you clarified with them that it was in fact on. You stated, literally, "all bets off" in this thread. Not "all bets which are affected by my first weekend illness only."

I don't think you had any malice intended with this or the initial cancellation, but I don't think should have the combative attitude you are showing here. To be clear, standard betting etiquette does not allow you to cancel bets because you were feeling sick. If we were betting, and you asked out of the bet because you were feeling sick, I would say yes 99% of the time, but I don't think it is right for you to just cancel all bets with everyone because you were sick. It's not like you went to the hospital, you still played the events in fact. That you say you would do the same for others is commendable, but when you are betting with a huge field of people, I think following what is generally considered acceptable is best. I don't think it is that big a deal, but I generally think it's poor conduct when offering tons of bets out to the field.

As for the bet with Dan, the default assumption very obviously should be that the bet was off, unless otherwise clarified with him, like you did with Wushu and Fedor.
09-30-2015 , 05:36 PM
future threads of this nature should have a clause where both parties must consent in order to cancel bets imo
09-30-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gettym


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Incredible gif, ty !
09-30-2015 , 06:16 PM
dat gif tho

(rofl)
09-30-2015 , 09:16 PM
future threads of this nature should have a clause where one party isn't a complete Asperger case
10-01-2015 , 01:18 AM
10-01-2015 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by david negus
Those sunglasses to the right of The Donald!!!
10-01-2015 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
future threads of this nature should have a clause where both parties must consent in order to cancel bets imo
No, there CAN be a clause that one person is able to cancel a bet.
Without it, it goes without saying that both have to consent to cancel, like anski said.

This is standard practice anywhere on 2+2 and in the gambling world.
10-01-2015 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rowniwn
Without it, it goes without saying that both have to consent to cancel, like anski said.

This is standard practice anywhere on 2+2 and in the gambling world.
I assumed so too. Apparently not according to this thread. Either way in the future terms need to be much clearer.
10-01-2015 , 09:33 AM
sad times wrote a very long post that deleted itself.

Cliffs

- sorry to keep reiterating but if 50+ people hadn't cancelled action before I wouldn't have thought it was fine to cancel
- the reason I don't have clauses in these threads is because I'm usually bettong vs friends or guys I have mutual respect with that both trust the other to not try to angle them etc
- I assumed all during Wcoop action was booked against Dan smith, but like I said 100% see why I'm wrong about that when I wrote "all bets are off" and thus haven't argued at all about it because I know I have no case and I want no case
- same guys who come in all these threads with their meaningless posts are the kind of guys who drive a lot of top players away from 2p2. This isn't nvg, and ironic thing is the guy saying I am a complete aspergers case friends told me exactly the same thing about himself but whatever
- apologies to kleath for lowering myself to his level
- won't do threads like this in the future as it seems general consensus is people don't want me to, which is fine. Will continue betting with friends privately, feel free to pm if anybody wants to have friendly Sunday/scoop/live bets
- life too short for us to argue on 2p2
- keep calm
10-01-2015 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
- apologies to kleath for lowering myself to his level
Some apology
10-01-2015 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
- fcuk kleath for lowering myself to his level
- life too short for us to argue on 2p2
- keep calm
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Originally Posted by BigPig
Some apology
must be a formatting error, I don't see where the problem is
10-02-2015 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
keep selling to the big11 you waste of space
1. I only sell to the big 22 if theres enough value for me to play it
2. say it to my face you diminutive bitch made ****** Ill slap the ****ing taste of europeans cock out of your ******y little mouth

Last edited by kleath; 10-02-2015 at 01:05 AM. Reason: but you would never because you're such a bitch made ****** that prob caught a cold and wouldnt want to give it to european
10-02-2015 , 03:30 AM
Dat gif
10-02-2015 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ansky
Hey Pads,

I'm not sure if you posted the chats to indicate that your bet with Dan ought to be on, but if anything it clearly indicates that it is off. Fedor and Wushu both assumed bet was off until you clarified with them that it was in fact on. You stated, literally, "all bets off" in this thread. Not "all bets which are affected by my first weekend illness only."

I don't think you had any malice intended with this or the initial cancellation, but I don't think should have the combative attitude you are showing here. To be clear, standard betting etiquette does not allow you to cancel bets because you were feeling sick. If we were betting, and you asked out of the bet because you were feeling sick, I would say yes 99% of the time, but I don't think it is right for you to just cancel all bets with everyone because you were sick. It's not like you went to the hospital, you still played the events in fact. That you say you would do the same for others is commendable, but when you are betting with a huge field of people, I think following what is generally considered acceptable is best. I don't think it is that big a deal, but I generally think it's poor conduct when offering tons of bets out to the field.

As for the bet with Dan, the default assumption very obviously should be that the bet was off, unless otherwise clarified with him, like you did with Wushu and Fedor.
why do you assume it wasnt intended with ill will when all indications point to him being a selectively welching ******?

like maybe he isnt but by any objectively based view hes a filthy scumbag

Last edited by kleath; 10-02-2015 at 03:52 AM. Reason: in my dealings with him hes actually been legit but now i just feel extremely lucky to not get ****ed over
10-02-2015 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kleath
1. I only sell to the big 22 if theres enough value for me to play it
2. say it to my face you diminutive bitch made ****** Ill slap the ****ing taste of europeans cock out of your ******y little mouth
10-02-2015 , 06:09 AM
Will this WCOOP prop turn into a fight prop, Kleath vs. Pads?

Popcorn ready. Vamoooos!
10-02-2015 , 06:41 AM
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