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08-02-2016 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tithayer
Will there be any bracelet/card protector reward for the mini-WCOOP?
yeah, would be a nice touch
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08-02-2016 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tithayer
Will there be any bracelet/card protector reward for the mini-WCOOP?
Lol I'm predicting 0% chance of this happening
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08-02-2016 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tithayer
Will there be any bracelet/card protector reward for the mini-WCOOP?
Maybe a mini-one that is 1/100th of the size.
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08-02-2016 , 05:09 PM
lol


When recs look at the TCOOP, it seems special for a whole bunch of reasons:

- prestige
- big names
- big prizes
- bracelet

Maybe a risk with a mini-TCOOP, is having the series seem very ordinary if Stars doesn't do anything to make it special? Like give away a jaguar tracking trip to Brazil to someone/somehow, like Unibet? roarr!

Guess in the very least, it'd be different to have deep, slow structures these days - although Stars makes so much money in rake, it'd be nice to see something extra so the promo/series would seem different ... exciting! That doesn't seem to have happened in a while ...
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08-02-2016 , 10:35 PM
High stakes turbo plz. 5k+
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08-02-2016 , 10:49 PM
I'd say it's alarming if brian's meeting to finalize the schedule is still going on.....
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08-03-2016 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Maybe a mini-one that is 1/100th of the size.
would be fun
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08-03-2016 , 07:30 AM
You've nailed the super-sat pathways into the WCOOP ME, thanks so much. See you 25th Sept, where I might, just might, be in for $7.50 hehe
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08-03-2016 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1mtm91
Schedule looks decent, SPKO heavily features but no nlo8? Very popular format maybe add that, also there's a 320 Monday PLO8 SE but no Wednesday PLO or Friday NLO8? All 3 of those with the Friday an nlo8 PKO SE would be great!
Bump this
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08-03-2016 , 03:51 PM
Any word on the final schedule?
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08-03-2016 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoBeidacki
Any word on the final schedule?
+1
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08-03-2016 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoBeidacki
Any word on the final schedule?
+1
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08-03-2016 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoBeidacki
Any word on the final schedule?
Yep. It will be posted to the PokerStars blog by the end of the week. Many things were changed from Version 04 to Version 05. I suspect that many of you will be pleased.

I'm looking at the 'Version Changes' tab on my desktop right now, and I can tell you that 37 changes in total were made from Version 04 to Version 05.

The blog post, which I'm currently writing, will lay out the final schedule and expand/explain quite a few of the Events.
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08-04-2016 , 04:31 AM
Looking forward to it. post the link pls after u're finished writing it. Once again Bryan thx for making all those great series!
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08-04-2016 , 05:35 AM
Will the structures be slow and deep for miniWCOOP? I'm assuming they will be a lot slower then micro millions.
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08-04-2016 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
There is a mini version of the $102K. It will cost $11 - the Mini-WCOOP cap - to play.
Unreal.
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08-04-2016 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jaggalo1231
Looking forward to it. post the link pls after u're finished writing it. Once again Bryan thx for making all those great series!
Yes, absolutely... and thank you for the kind words. Creating these series (with significant help from many, including posters here and my colleagues) is my distinct pleasure and privilege.

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Will the structures be slow and deep for miniWCOOP? I'm assuming they will be a lot slower then micro millions.
The plan at this time is for the structures for Mini-WCOOP to be identical to the structures in WCOOP.
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08-04-2016 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
Mini-WCOOP isn't running in place of the 2nd Chance tournaments, no.

Having said that, there will not be 2nd Chance tournaments this year.
loool you have to be effing kidding me

if you're not running 2nd chance tourneys, how is it ever not a slamdunk to make miniwcoop $11-$109 with like a $500 highroller or something?

you may aswell name it micromillions

sorry i'm a bit mad

Last edited by LOLCh1pPorn; 08-04-2016 at 09:32 AM. Reason: i mean the quoted part just feels like you're actually trolling us
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08-04-2016 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
if you're not running 2nd chance tourneys, how is it ever not a slamdunk to make miniwcoop $11-$109 with like a $500 highroller or something?
Mini-WCOOP and the fact that we're not running 2nd Chance tournaments for this year's WCOOP are not related at all.

The decision to stop running 2nd Chance tournaments was made based on the fact that we've been considering stopping the 2nd Chance tournaments for quite some time as WCOOP has grown, and the time to do so has now come, based on how the 2nd Chance tournaments have affected WCOOP over the years, independent of Mini-WCOOP.

Initially, the 2nd Chance tournaments were offered at least in part due to the fact that WCOOP late registration stopped as soon as someone was eliminated in each Event. Once that stopped being the case (once we had proper late registration, in other words), we should have considered stopping the 2nd Chance tournaments then, but we didn't.

Over the past few years, the 2nd Chance tournaments have grown to the point that they make up a major portion of the overall spending throughout WCOOP. As the series continues to grow, by this point to 82 Events, the 2nd Chance tournaments have become for some an alternative to WCOOP proper, which has never been the intention of those tournaments. With extended late registration, re-entries, etc... there is no longer any need for the 2nd Chance tournaments and so they have finally, after years of consideration of taking this action, been eliminated. This is along the same lines as the reason that I answered the request to label main schedule tournaments with 'WCOOP Special' throughout WCOOP as it being something that we almost certainly won't be doing, as branding non-WCOOP Events with WCOOP branding will draw attention away from the Events themselves, which is not anything that we want to do as doing so would draw liquidity away from WCOOP.

While I completely understand that those who grind as many high-stakes tournaments as they can want as many opportunities to play high-stakes tournaments as possible, and therefore want as much attention drawn to them as possible, the fact is that the players' bankrolls aren't infinite. For the duration of WCOOP, the best thing is to have the WCOOP-branded attention on the WCOOP Events and the WCOOP satellites. Re-adding the 2nd Chance tournaments or adding WCOOP branding on to non-WCOOP tournaments would detract from the WCOOP Events, and that would be bad for the series. Painting Mini-WCOOP orange won't have the same effect, as the buy-ins are significantly low enough that they won't affect the series, and that's also why Mini-WCOOP will stay where it is, with the buy-ins at $1-$11, with the exception of the Mini-WCOOP Main Event. Again, I understand that not everyone will understand or appreciate that these settings are the way that they are, but we know what we're doing here, and these settings aren't changing.
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08-04-2016 , 10:05 AM
those megapath are quite the rakegrab
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08-04-2016 , 10:10 AM
I appreciate the post. In my mind, the fact that there were 2nd chance tourneys to fill up the gap between WCOOP and mini-WCOOP was the last bit of understanding I had for making mini $1-11. I understand not using the old 2nd chance buyin ranges for miniWCOOP but I see much less use in them being as low as <$11. It really is just another micromillions series this way. $5-$55 for example would appeal to a ton of players, both of the pool playing WCOOP (who will never skip a wcoop to play a mini) and of the playerpool that doesn't ($5-55 is still significantly lower than WCOOP bi's)

At the very least, I can't see how you don't make the mini version of the $102k a $109 buyin. It's very weird because ME-SHR ratio in WCOOP is x20 the stakes but in mini it would be 5 times less. It will look so weird on the schedule too if you have a $55 main event and a $11 "super highroller"
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08-04-2016 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
The plan at this time is for the structures for Mini-WCOOP to be identical to the structures in WCOOP.
Please keep this!
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08-04-2016 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
The plan at this time is for the structures for Mini-WCOOP to be identical to the structures in WCOOP.
That would be amazing and greatly appreciated by the lowstakes players.
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08-04-2016 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
It will look so weird on the schedule too if you have a $55 main event and a $11 "super highroller"
It won't be labeled as a Super High-Roller, just as an $11 NL Hold'em tournament. (You're right, it would look quite weird.)
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08-04-2016 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
At the very least, I can't see how you don't make the mini version of the $102k a $109 buyin. It will look so weird on the schedule too if you have a $55 main event and a $11 "super highroller"
I agree, 55$ is a great price for the Mini-WCOOP main and I think 109$ would make it for the Mini-WCOOP highroller. But it's probably too late...
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