Gg money

That's the 1k NLO8 champ., so at least it should go a bit quicker than would PLO8. I'd rather have them both the same day than several days apart, requiring separate/longer trips. If they would just move the PLO8 champ. to 9/11-9/14 (and made it FR, dare I dream?), that would be an awesome WCOOP weekend of O8!

To all the guys saying that mini-WCOOP should be 1/10th, it seems pretty obvious that they're making it 1/100th to avoid interfering with WCOOP.

If they make the buyins midstakes, then they'll lose a lot of MS players, that can't really afford the big buyins, but think '**** it I'll roll the dice' because they want in on the action.

If they have 22-75's running in a series at the same time as WCOOP, these players will be more likely to entertain better BR management and avoid the big ones.

Having 1/100th appeals to those that simply have no way of buying into WCOOP and is low enough to not really take the interest of the MSers.

As for the schedule, I think it looks solid, Bryan. Looking forward to punting too much this series chasing the dream

The 102k makes absolutely 0 sense. So you're only doing it so you can say you have the biggest buy in tourney ever? And just don't care how bad it's going to be or what the players want? The 51k was small, would have been smaller if the 1 person with very bad stats didn't satellite in. The price point was changed to 21k and got a huge turnout with 143 people and was a great tournament. 21k is the perfect buy in. Can actually run satellites to it.

If you were to ask everyone who played the 51k or 21k what buyin they'd prefer, I can't imagine there would be more than a couple people who would pick something other than 21k, and wouldn't be surprised if it was just 100% unanimous. It's so clearly the right price point for an online super high roller. It's just not the same as live super high rollers and never will be. Also, it's not like a 102k would be better for the railbirds than a 21k. People would rather watch a 150 person field filled with a ton of great players as opposed to a 2 table sng. You'll also clearly make more rake from a 21k than a 102k. It's clearly better for everyone. You tried out the 51k, made the biggest buyin tourney online ever, made a good decision to try out a 21k instead, realized this was wayyy better and a huge success, and now you want to up it to 102k? It just doesn't make any sense. Hopefully you reconsider.

Agree w dpeters and is pretty much exactly what I said in that survey that was sent out a 1-1.5 months ago

Amaya gonna Amaya

Thing is at this stage I really don't know why they wouldn't just go for the higher rake approach (21k)

I agree with much of this, however there definitely is some pizzaz to a 100k tournament. Not everything has to be optimal. I like running the 100k tournament, but since if you're going to do it, my suggestion would be to run a bunch of 2k (5k?) sattys on a bunch of the WCOOP days leading up to the tournament. I don't think it will take away from the WCOOP player pools at all, and all the people willing to play the satty will just be pulling up another table on their screen anyway; so win win.

Overall, great schedule Brian.

98% sure Bryan will say next to no satties for the $102k for the very reasons you bring up: they don't want to canabalize. A sat would have I be at least $10k if not $25k, so that in and of itself is a high roller event. Bryan relented in SCOOP and did include a sat to the $21k with no guarantee that was very popular, so I'd expect there will be a singular sat, maybe at the $21k price point, to the $102k. A $21k has no chance if canebelizing, but I'd also expect there will be no sats to a hypothetical $21k sat to prevent canabalization. The VIP sat to the SHR last year was very popular and hopefully something like that is repeated.

agree with keeping it 1/100. 1/10 is way too SCOOPy, not WCOOPy.

and whats with stars hardon for PSKOs? can someone explain it? its weird. way too many of them.

1575 seems like an awesome prize point for the thrill and ST.

YIKKKK at win the button. make another one thats a hyper win the button. hyper win the button was one of the most fun nlhe tournies i played
id also love if you ran more deuce tournys, both triple draw and NL single

overall looks good, im very excited

We should just be grateful that not every tourney is a 3-max Indian Poker Spin & Go with 50% rake.

102k super highroller is awesome (heart)

should run $35k 6m hyper 2 seat guara sattys to the $102k so slayer1 can post a epic graph for us

the shr will be awesome, from a rail bird to a reg everyone will be stoked to see the best going at it in that

came

Actually, we did send out a detailed survey to quite a lot of high-roller players and got many specific answers about what types and buy-ins to run. What you see in the tentative WCOOP schedule in terms of high-roller tournaments is largely based on the results of said survey.

As for the $51K in WCOOP 2015 and the $21K in SCOOP 2016, the two Events were independent and had nothing to do with each other. The $21K in SCOOP 2016 was not a response to the $51K in WCOOP 2015, and certainly was not run "instead" of a $51K. There was no "change" from WCOOP 2015 to SCOOP 2016; they were simply two different Events, run at different times of the year, etc.

As for the mention of rake, as I've replied many times, we don't make Event scheduling decisions based on how much rake an Event will generate.

Heh. I don't consider it likely that we'll have any $35,700 Hyper-Turbo satellites. :P

WCOOP 2015 had 10 Knockout Events out of 70 Events (14.29%) total. At the present time, WCOOP 2016 is slated to have 13 Knockout Events out of 82 Events (15.85%) total. The lists...

WCOOP 2015:

• WCOOP-07: $700 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout], $750K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-11: $215 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout], $400K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-16: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE], $1M Guaranteed
• WCOOP-21: $530 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout], $750K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-23: $215 PL Omaha [Knockout], $250K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-27: $215 PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout], $200K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-38: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE], $1M Guaranteed
• WCOOP-50: $215 NL Hold'em [Knockout], $500K Guaranteed
• WCOOP-60: $2,100 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE], $1.5M Guaranteed
• WCOOP-65: $700 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout], $1M Guaranteed

WCOOP 2016:

• WCOOP-07: $700 PL Omaha [3-Max, Progressive Knockout, Zoom]
• WCOOP-08: $700 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout]
• WCOOP-13: $215 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout]
• WCOOP-16: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE]
• WCOOP-20: $320 NL Hold'em [3-Max, Progressive Knockout, Zoom]
• WCOOP-24: $530 NL Hold'em [Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-26: $215 PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-34: $215 PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout]
• WCOOP-41: $1,575 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE]
• WCOOP-45: $320 NL Hold'em [Ante Up, Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-56: $215 NL Hold'em [Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-66: $2,100 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout, Thursday Thrill SE]
• WCOOP-75: $700 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Progressive Super-Knockout]

One difference in WCOOP 2016 is that we have six Progressive Knockouts (as opposed to Progressive Super-Knockouts) on the tentative schedule. These proved popular in SCOOP 2016 and there are quite a few of them in WCOOP 2016. Details on them below...

• WCOOP-07: $700 ($498.75 + $166.25 + $35) PL Omaha [3-Max, Progressive Knockout, Zoom]
• WCOOP-20: $320 ($225.00 + $75.00 + $20) NL Hold'em [3-Max, Progressive Knockout, Zoom]
• WCOOP-24: $530 ($375.00 + $125.00 +$30) NL Hold'em [Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-26: $215 ($150.00 + $50.00 +$15) PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-45: $320 ($200.00 + $100.00 +$20) NL Hold'em [Ante Up, Progressive Knockout]
• WCOOP-56: $215 ($150.00 + $50.00 +$15) NL Hold'em [Progressive Knockout]

Thanks as always for the feedback, everyone... keep it coming!

One in every six events being knockout tournaments does feel like a lot. I, particularly, do not like so many of them (ideally would play 2, max. 3), but I guess it makes sense to run so many if the players like it and they've been successful in the past.

Also, why are 3 of the 4 $109 events very early in the day? If placed just a little later, they have potential to be the events with the largest fields in the series. Would also like one of the $109 events to be an Omaha one (or add a 5th $109, if you don't want to change one of the tournaments already scheduled).

Bryan,

On the main schedule, Progressive Knockouts have 50% of the prizepool to the payouts and 50% to the knockouts. Considering that the MTT schedule no longer differs between Super KO and KO, and it doesn't offer any of these 25%/75% tournaments, you should probably spend time deciding how and why to explain these tournaments for the WCOOP. Probably don't want recs joining these games and getting something they aren't expecting.

Bryan,

What if instead of doing the 1/100th ratio you simply offered all MCOOP events at the $11 price point or perhaps $5-11. I think this would be much more appealing to the low stakes players (not too many ppl will get excited about playing a $1-3 MCOOP imo) while at the same time staying under the $11 limit you have established.

Also, thank you very much for all the hard work that you have put into the schedule thus far.

Cheers.

Sounds like a great idea! Two buy-ins for all MCOOP events (Main excepted), 5.50$ and 11$.

Bryan,
thanks for the Schedule and the swift answers. Much appreciated!
Two suggestions and one question:

- you don't have any mixed games events during the first ten days, why not move the 320$ HORSE or the 320$ 8-game a bit earlier?
- the Badugi and 2-7 events are quite expensive, what about at least one 215$ or 320$ version or, even better, a mix (2-7 SD and 2-7 TD, or Badugi and 2-7 TD) in that price range?
- which events (except flight tourneys of course) might be 2-day events?

Thanks

+1

So nothing to play for midstakes, WCOOP buy-ins too high and mini too low.
Don`t get it why you make that silly 1/100 when everybody asks for 1/10.

Schedule looks decent, SPKO heavily features but no nlo8? Very popular format maybe add that, also there's a 320 Monday PLO8 SE but no Wednesday PLO or Friday NLO8? All 3 of those with the Friday an nlo8 PKO SE would be great!

I second this.

I also find it odd, that the schedule features $320 as well as $1k championship events of all the Stud games -Stud high, Stud8 and Razz. However FLO8, which is arguably the most popular of the HORSE games, only has the $1k championship event and not a low $320 event

can compromise on mcoop being in da $5/11-$55 range.

having another MM sounds a bit ridic, although it would cater to the recs a lot.

but going for a slightly higher BI range as I suggested would please recs and low/mid regs simultaneously

Same thing with triple draw, which was more popular than any of the Stud games in last years WCOOP. I don't get why there are 320$ for Studs, but not a single 320$ for Draw games.