Agree with this, I personally would love to play 1/10th buyins but it'd take away from wcoop itself. I don't think micro buyins have the same problem. The solution is leaving wcoop as it is and having a midstakes series in november.

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Sep 17th on looks amazing. Less psko up front if possible. And +1 to what doggz said about minis, don't take away satty players.

Less events, less Re-Entries, less NLHE, less PLO, less O8, less Stud, less PSKO,...etc. More Courhevel/(8) + other formats which doesn't exist in the schedule. Keep it simple!

This schedule isn't the schedule of WCOOP even if u write it down under that name. This looks more like an IQ-test for 5-year-old to find and name at least 50 different things (mistakes) why this schedule looks like **** compared to what the actual WCOOP-schedule should look like.

And a big fat LOL to all of them who said this looked great. Shame on U!

The Kickoff Event (01) will be as it was last year, a Phase Event with multiple Day 1s. The final Day 1 will be on the first Sunday of the series.

Thanks! Certainly! Event 49 will be a Mix-Max tournament with multiple Part 1s, each of which will play at 8-Max tables. Part 2 will play on 4-Max tables. Part 3 (the final part) will play Heads-Up.

There are two Phase Events planned, one at the start of the series and one toward the end. The second one has the final Day 1 beginning on the last Saturday.

Event 01: $109 NL Hold'em
Event 72: $109 NL Hold'em

This is still to be determined, but at the moment I'm thinking to have the Marathon Event play out on the Sundays, ending on Main Event Sunday. We're also considering having it play on the weekends, starting on the first Sunday, then playing on the following Saturday/Sunday, then the next Saturday/Sunday, ending on Day 5. The Marathon Event will be quite a test of patience in very deep play.

Much is possible at this stage, which is why we're collecting feedback. As for realizing that people travel to play WCOOP, of course we realize that. As for talking to a brick wall, no one who provides feedback for anything in which I'm involved is ever "talking to a brick wall". Courchevel hasn't made the cut as of yet for this WCOOP (or any other Championship series recently). Having said that, the players have the power to change that themselves with Event 44, which is the non-NL Hold'em Players' Choice Event. Nominate Courchevel, and perhaps it will make the Voting Booth.

The feedback we have received many times over doesn't support the above assertion. When we put out 9-Max MTTs in Omaha variants, the feedback is loud and frequent, asking us to change them to 6-Max.

Thanks! As for the $1,500 Events, those aren't a matter of trying to be fancy, just stepping incrementally between the $1,000 and $2,000 versions. Maybe they'll stay in the final schedule, maybe they won't. As for the Super High-Roller, we're looking forward to hosting the highest buy-in Event ever, and I'd be quite pleased to see 30 players!

Thanks, and see above w/r/t the Super High-Roller.

Thanks, and in my opinion, you've nailed it precisely... crystallizing the reasoning/justification/etc pretty much perfectly.

I was wondering if anyone would notice that. I haven't managed to align the lower buy-ins with their annual Championship counterparts in all cases, but in many cases. I think that it's a pretty good idea, and I hope that it works out well.

Agreed.

Thanks as always for the feedback, everyone... especially constructive feedback... please keep it coming!

Quick Disclaimer (For All) - please consider this always: I read every post. I consider every post. Having said that, I don't reply to every post. If I haven't replied to your post or some specific point in your post, it's not that I'm ignoring you or that I haven't read what you've had to say.

How about making all mtt sats to wcoop events reward tickets instead of $t and no rake on the rebuys?

If you checked out the stats for scoop, it seemed the majority of x3/x4 sats that could be unregged were 90% reg and it seemed to put recs off, as they would wait for the sats you couldnt unreg to play.

The ones that could be unregged served no use as you couldnt even grind them for profit anymore because of rake being so high.

I think if you rewarded tickets for every sat you won that could be used to wcoop or any future coop of the same buyin it would improve fields in sats and all coop events.

Also, from someone who shot takes, it puts me off taking a shot when i see re entry in this many events, specially the sunday ones.

$55 main event for mini wcoop at least

I guess I misread those PC events as Dealers' Choice events.
Can you please post a link to the poll when it becomes available?
TIA

It just makes sense to group the similar non-HE events together as much as possible, because these variants are difficult to make a living from (more than ever), so there's higher % of players traveling to play them IMO.

Really? I thought there were people on both sides. FR is the more traditional format, so not sure why it's all 6-max now.

Please don't forget to add fpp megapaths for these

14:00 ET -- Ev 04: $215 NL Hold'em [Sunday Million SE] (max re-entries: 2)
12:30 ET -- Ev 03: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Marathon Event Day 1]
14:00 ET -- Ev 29: $700 NL Hold'em [Sunday Million SE]
14:00 ET -- Ev 78: $5,000 NL Hold'em Championship Main Event - $1.5M Gtd to Champion! (max re-entries: 1)

schedule looks really good overall gj

At least if miniWCOOP won't be 1/10 can we atleast have awesome sats into the 'proper' WCOOP for us micro/small stakes grinders!

Have phase payday replaced during wcoop by $22 phase paydays to wcoop 5k main. Phase 2/2 to run on the first 2 sundays of wcoop and then the final saturday.

Would be best chance for recs to qualify for the main as the majority of wcoop sats to the main are just high stake regs and a waste of time.

I always wanted to try sat into the 5k main but never tried because how difficult the sat fields are.Phases change that completly.

The majority of cash is played 6max, and most people (correctly) think FR plo is a boring nutpeddle fest. Most people play plo because it offers more action than nlhe, making it full ring kind of counteracts that. I'm sure there are some people who prefer full ring, but I tend to arrogantly think they just haven't played enough plo to understand

less psko, more re-entry. All for da prizepool!

Maybe that is the case for PLO, but for PLO8/NLO8/BigO8, I think there is still plenty of room for FR, because there it's a split pot. I just returned from playing DSE & WSOP, and I can assure you there is plenty of action in MTTS for those variants. 6-max increases % of hands you play, but FR increases potential # of players for each pot.

I was talking strictly plo. Don't really know enough about O8 variants to make confident statements, though I feel like similar arguments apply. But whatever is theoretically good or bad is not everything, stars should answer demand as well. I for one would prefer 6max on any plo game

Any chance 4max 215$ would be moved to more friendly time slot than 4am EST/10am CET, especially that its on saturday? It's the only 4max NLH in the schedule, so i think it would not hurt to make it afternoon/evening event and put some regular 215$/320$ into morning hours as there are many of those to choose from and if someone is targeting 4max specifically, then will have hard time playing it.

The feedback we have received many times over doesn't support the above assertion. When we put out 9-Max MTTs in Omaha variants, the feedback is loud and frequent, asking us to change them to 6-Max.

You sound like someone who writes for Vox here. Just because the majority of people you talk to and hang around believe in something, does not mean the majority of people do.

The entrants in 6 max (especially 4 max) are lower than in 9 max with the exception of low buyin NLO8s. You are clearly just listening to feedback from select regs, and missing the greater picture. It's like this on every site. As a pro we also like ante only and mixed formats, but recs don't. As a former room manager, we like as much float. We don't care so much about regs who only deposit for the guarantees.

6 max is in Omaha is a completely different game than full ring. It's good to have both certainly. For pros, there is a greater edge due to the nature in preflop edges. 6 max encourages more preflop pots, and since hand values run close in value, there is more variance in outcomes, unlike NLHE. In 9 max it's post flop, and far greater edges post flop than in NLHE.

The other comments to grouping like events together I second. Synergy exists between events. It's good to have a holdem and a mixed game event each day like at the WSOP.

yeah theres no postflop action in 6max plo, got it

For WCOOP, 6-max has decreased the PLO8 prize pools and been neutral at best for NLO8 prize pools.

I don't understand why they don't just look at the prize pool declines since introducing 6-max at WCOOP for PL/NL O8. I'm fine with one FR and one 6-max for each of PLO8 & NLO8 (plus a 6-max 5CPLO8 and hopefully a PL/NL Courchevel O8 at some point again). Like you said later in your post, 6-max and FR are almost different games. They are bucking both tradition and demand in offering two 6-max for each instead of splitting them.

Funny about people complaining about not being able to complain re:mWCOOP.

My question with the $102k is what is the objective with that tournament. Is it just to have the biggest online tournament of all time? If so, it'll work. But what I wonder is, who will play the $102k that wouldn't have played a $51k?Maybe a select few whales that play the live super high rollers, but didn't seem like many of them have interest in an online tournament. What seems to get them into those live events is a chance to mingle with and be buddy-buddy with the best poker players, but you lose a lot of that online. But by doing $102k instead of $21k or $51k, it seems you would miss out on a lot of high stakes regs who would take a shot. Note also how last year's $51k got a lot more runners after a player with poor stats got in via a satty, so higher price point gets fewer satty winners and weaker players firing, which in turns gets fewer regs firing in response. I'm sure you've already thought about this in way more depth than I have, but just my $0.02.

I agree with this.

Would be interesting to hear more info about why you made it 100k.

Lol no

Looks good Bryan, would be great to not have the 215 pl 5 card 08 at 7 am and the 1k plo8 championship at 4pm same day, going to be very hard to play both!

34k sats lescoo. well doubt they run but (yn) for a few, 6m cash sats to the ME rolled rolled out 2nd week of August one time? Was tons of action again during SCOOP (and last yrs SCOOP) when you put the 37/350/3k ME sat out early

excited to grind my ass off all wcoop long, thx bryan!

Jorj95 is salivating over the prospect of a $32k hyper sat.