I agree with many on here that 3x's are going to be a problem for many game types. The amount of rebuys varies greatly depending on game type and if it's 6 max or full ring. Personally I think it's a great disservice to the recreational players to allow this format for 6 max or if the structure is going to cause the average amount of rebuys for the players that make the add-on to exceed 10. Fortunately the player base has matured and many are perfectly aware of what it takes to make it to the add on so the negative experience isn't as harsh or unexpected as it used to be.

Random Bryan-PS appreciation post, great job so far buddy, keep it up and keep stoically putting up with all of us.

9max NLHE 3x rebuys to every event please!

if you make satteis that are so well structured then obviously making the tickets must play is a must. i would actually consider playing most 320s in tha case

Thank you for this, and also for being so active in here while there's still time to tinker with the schedule.

Any substantial change you make will always meet with some criticism but it's a positive move imo. Kudos for taking a bold step to revive the status of a series that was starting to become a little tired. Overall, there is still a majority of events at $100-$700 but the series is now better balanced. Also, it now seems better positioned in the overall annual series cycle (SCOOP, TCOOP, WCOOP, micro-millions) where there is something for everyone. The SCOOPs were becoming seen as more prestigious than WCOOPs and this change addresses that to some extent, making the whole of WCOOP feel more like the world championship series I assume it is intended to be.

Supporting the new $2k events with a good range of sats as you indicate will help to bolster their "championship" status. +1 to "must play" Day 0 sats as one of the options for players.

Thank you for the hard work, Bryan! Turning most of the 215/320 PSKOs to normal events is appreciated and Day 0s for Championship events is a great idea!
However, can you give us your thoughts for 1k kickoff in the 2 mid Sundays (Sep 13th & 20th), it had a great success in SCOOP and 4-max clearly should not be on Sunday. I'm not sure how the PLO community feels about PLO in Sundays, but I think it's going to be better to have both 4-max and PLO on a different weekday.

why were 2x/3x chances changed to re-entries?

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And this. Great job so far!
A big +1 for 1k kickoff in in the 2 mid Sundays.

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I suppose that I had that one coming (slightly) after the SCOOP DTs, which drew some complaints for not having enough rounds for the -H. For WCOOP 2014, they were a bit more elaborate... and for WCOOP 2015, they'll be more elaborate still, I assure you. :P

(For SCOOP, honestly... with 275 DT targets, each of which is itself already a Round 2, changing some of those to Round 3s or even Round 4s would have introduced so much complexity that headaches would have been induced.)

Multiple responses to that:

1. that's not a scheduling issue, but a format issue, really
2. from my point of view, the change enabled better late registration in two ways:
2a. players who bust are re-seated
2b. players who bust don't have to re-enter immediately (e.g. while steaming), they can go get a coffee, take a break, come back, etc.
3. The changes listed in point 2 make each re-entered player a new player in the field, for all intents and purposes, and they're treated by the system as such.

I understand the viewpoints of those who feel that re-entries shouldn't be raked, but as I mentioned above honestly that's not really a decision that falls under my purview when scheduling tournaments. The fact that re-entries are raked doesn't make it any more (or less) likely that I'll write a re-entry tournament into a schedule.

Bryan, this is also another feedback coming which you probably missed. Fine you want to have them $2k championship events but also have at least 320/215 version of them? I know you may not have room for them but can you at least increase the buy in of daily 27 and weekly 82 for that day/week and put a nice gtd something like $10k - 15k and have named them wcoop special or something like that if you dont have room to add them.

Please re read those quoted posts again, people don't have problem with 2k event much but ppl have problem because some of those championship events don't have any 320/215

Not a big fan of re entries mainly because re-entries have flatter payouts compared with 2x/3x chances and also because of extra rake ofcourse, but they changed them to re-entries maybe because re entries produce more prizepool because we can re enter 3-4 times and sometimes even unlimited in some tourneys, also we can re-enter at any time, and re-entries doesn't have any unnecessary breaks like they had in 2x/3x chance. Re-entry has to be raked because of its format I guess, they consider each entry as new, so it makes sense.

Hi anuj,

I haven't missed that... in fact, it's one of the feedback points that's being considered most heavily. Having said that, adding $320s to the schedule in addition to the $2,100s for these events would create a schedule with something like 80 events, which is not something we're likely to do.

I've mentioned the possibility of creating $320 satellites to the $2,100s which have the same structure as the $2,100s themselves, as well as the possibility of those satellites (essentially Day 0s, if you want to think of them that way) awarding must-play seats. It's something to consider, and one of multiple solutions which would give the players who would otherwise miss the $320 variants something to play and a way to participate.

I'm definitely taking the concerns of those missing the $320 level for some of the events seriously, I assure you. Nevertheless, I appreciate the highlighting and reminders... thank you!

Those 320 sats will also have sats like Round 1 , 27 > 320 > 2100? (Edit: Sorry this was already answered in your previous post, didn't read it properly)

Ty very much

Some more questions:

1) What will be the buy in of 2nd chance events of $2100 championship events?

2) What have you decided to give players who win a wcoop event?

thanks for answering bryan, good job so far.

getting really excited for this series. lesgooo !

The 320 "day 0" satellites being suggested are not really a great alternative to a lower buyin wcoop event since not that long into the tournament you will have to change your play significantly because of the satellite payouts.

If it's an idea which we go with, then yes any such $320s will have multiple round 1s leading to them.

1) Not yet decided, but history suggests that they'll be $1,050. We'll see.
2) Aside from enormous piles of cash, WCOOP Champions have historically gotten gold bracelets to commemorate their victories.

The idea isn't precisely ideal, agreed... but such satellites seem to be good alternatives to being completely shut out for players who cannot afford the full $2,100 buy-in, I think. The idea requires more fleshing-out, for certain.

Apparently, the decision about $2,100 buy-ins is already taken and is not subject to discussion.

So WCOOP becomes superhighroller series for mixed games, but remains affordable for NLHE and PLO players. This is a pretty clear message from PS management. Well, at least we still have our daily 27s.

P. S. From now on flying to Vegas to play a full WSOP schedule of 1.5k-3k limit and mixed events becomes cheaper than playing WCOOP. Impressive achievement, Sheldon!

Its an interesting concept but playing a satellite with WCOOP structures is not something most people will look forward to imo. Make her a tad bit quicker and it seems like a good idea.

i played 2-7 single draw 3x turbo to the scoop - H. think it was 16.50. i noticed that the structure was vastly different to the NLH 3x structure. it was still fast and i spent at least 10 units, but it had a few extra levels in the rebuy period which were golden in preventing it turning into an all in shootout.

put a good schedule of reg speed satties to everything. sick of playign these 3x crapshoots.

I will admit I mostly skimmed this, so sorry if I missed this discussion already, but every 2k should start in the middle time slot. The 17:00 time slot is just miserable for the European market (yes I realize that the rest of the world exists too). If they aren't going to be moved earlier, at the very least they all need to be 2 day events. The 14:00 time slot has to be the most ideal time slot for everyone.

Could you run 'must play' satellites to the 2100s and not rake the satellites? Maybe make it in a way that you can only win ONE seat in this variant of satellites. That way you don't get regs playing a bunch of satellites at no rake if they've won a seat. The satellite fields get softer and less reg infested as ppl win their seats. Stars still gets take from more ppl playing 2100s that normally would just use the T$ to play their regular schedule. Everyone wins

This was a serious request in case it appeared sarcastic.