A hand from yesterday.. my pokerfriends and I can't agree on this play.

What do you guys think, did I play it right or wrong on turn&river?

I was looking for a free GTO solver where I could upload it to and get EV-Analysis but I can't find one.
If somebody here has GTOwizard premium and would like to analyze this hand I would be thankful.

All oppinions welcome. Thank you

PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 30 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 44.52 BB
Hero (MP+1): 33.79 BB
CO: 108.63 BB
BTN: 7.87 BB
SB: 12.26 BB
BB: 63.71 BB
UTG: 18.17 BB
UTG+1: 48.33 BB

8 players post ante of 0.15 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has 4 4

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (9.7 BB, 4 players) 6 7 K
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (9.7 BB, 4 players) K
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 6.69 BB, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 6.69 BB

River: (23.09 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 15.93 BB, UTG+1 calls 15.93 BB

Hero shows 4 4 (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 shows T T (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
UTG+1 wins 54.95 BB

I don't think any solver can handle a spot like this. And it's best not to show results until after the discussion.

The problem here is your preflop call really narrows and caps your range, and it's just not going to hit that board very hard. You're not going to have many Kx, and you likely wouldn't play Kx the way you did. You're also not likely to have 6x at all, or AA/QQ. So villain only really has to worry about JJ/77. If you can't have much value, your bet sizing starts to look very bluffy.

Yeah, I think that's pretty good anyway. Where is your value coming from? You can have some Kx I guess but a lot of those hands 3-bet or fold pre.

A small bet on the turn to fold out overcards makes more sense if you're going to try this; you don't really want to make the pot this big. Even so, bluffs into three people are always dicey scenarios.

River is a bad card to bluff as you're not really getting any value that called turn to fold river. If anything I'd probably go small to try to fold out straight and flush draws, but UTG+1 would probably prefer to bet those on the turn than check/call.

Also, 44 off this stack size in this position should just be a fold preflop, I think.

Solver is indifferent between calling and folding pf. You can justify a call if the players behind are on the passive side and its unlikely that you will get squeezed.


Solver really isnt going to help you in a 4 way spot postflop. Generally you want to use smaller bet sizes multiway and bluff less, and your specific hand benefits from betting small to fold out overcards on the turn.

As for the river, I dont like your sizing. Are we value betting 88-TT here? Just feels like we are going to super polarized between boats and air and either want to jam or give up. Having a spade isnt great either because you want villain to have missed fd when you bluff, although the 4s is less relevant than a higher spade.

When you bluff, ask yourself the question "does the story I'm selling make sense?" Here it does not, because you would not have checked a king (which is presumably what you are representing) on this flop once the preflop aggressor has given up on the pot. Also, bluffing one person is always a lot easier than bluffing three people.

I'm surprised that solver calls pre here, as the above poster says, because I think this is a trivial fold. We can call at 100 BBs but under 50 it gets pretty dicey. We don't have the odds to call a 3 bet and stacks aren't deep enough to compensate us when we hit our set. The call is made worse by the 2 potential reshove stacks still to act who we can't really call.

I checked a solver for the 44 spot preflop and getting back about 80% fold / 20% call.

As played, with your turn bet think you need to jam river.

Tbh I don’t see much benefit in betting the turn at all, nothing but air folds imho, if you do maybe bet like 3.5?