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02-27-2017 , 05:39 PM

momo_uk

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Is using a pushfold chart on your phone during a live MTT in realtime considered cheating? What's the ethical consensus on this? Has this topic ever been discussed?

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02-27-2017 , 05:41 PM

Soepgroente

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If you look at your phone after you've been dealt cards I would consider this at best unethical. If you have no cards you can look at anything you want, imo.

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02-27-2017 , 08:41 PM

Asjbaaaf

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJX_8jZ60kA

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02-27-2017 , 08:50 PM

watevs

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente

If you look at your phone after you've been dealt cards I would consider this at best unethical. If you have no cards you can look at anything you want, imo.

isn't the former expressly prohibited most places? in 2017 i think we don't have to hedge when we say 'no phones during a hand'

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02-27-2017 , 09:36 PM

U shove i call

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente

If you look at your phone after you've been dealt cards I would consider this at best unethical. If you have no cards you can look at anything you want, imo.

This end thread. Even in places you can use your phone with a live hand i don't do it seems disrespectful to the table even if not slowing the game down.

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02-28-2017 , 03:41 PM

momo_uk

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente

If you look at your phone after you've been dealt cards I would consider this at best unethical. If you have no cards you can look at anything you want, imo.

So if you have 8 BBs in CO, and quickly refer a push/fold chart before the hand is dealt, to see that you should shove Ax+, 22+, K8o+, T9s+ in unopened pots, that's ethical?

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02-28-2017 , 04:21 PM

Soepgroente

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Originally Posted by momo_uk

So if you have 8 BBs in CO, and quickly refer a push/fold chart before the hand is dealt, to see that you should shove Ax+, 22+, K8o+, T9s+ in unopened pots, that's ethical?

Whether it's ethical is debatable, but there's not much to do about it. Casino's are not going to forbid people from using any and all devices at the table.

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02-28-2017 , 04:35 PM

zoogenhiem

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65...table-1620628/

^^^we had this discussion last year -- search is your friend my friends.

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03-01-2017 , 11:53 AM

Fanta Pomelo

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I check, it's just a force of habit. Beware tough; Live players may give you a look of disgust as if you just killed a puppy.

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03-01-2017 , 01:27 PM

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EmilioChekshevez

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I think Doug Polk said he was referencing push/fold charts during his 1k turbo WSOP win a few years

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03-01-2017 , 07:33 PM

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momo_uk

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez

I think Doug Polk said he was referencing push/fold charts during his 1k turbo WSOP win a few years

At 3:17... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaf2...?v=kaf2H1jEAjI

He did.

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