Why was late reg closed in the 82 at bb700 with 10k start stack? Seems like you usually can jump into even regspeeds with ten biebers

event #24 [players' voice] is set as a fullring atm instead of 6-Max

and #27 [supersonic] is set as 6-Max [announced fr but idk]

Yes, this is a known issue. I hope that it's improved soon.

Thanks! I'm glad that you're having a good time.

Agreed.

At the third break of one of my biggest cashes ever (4-figure score on a $10 buy-in), I had 2 chips. Obviously, you need quite a bit of luck to do well from that sort of stack, but you're right to say that it's fun. I remember that tournament and how it played to this day, and it will probably be one of the last things I forget when I go senile.

I'm glad that you're enjoying it. As with WCOOP 2016 and SCOOP 2016, a lot of extra attention was paid to the structures for TCOOP 2017... with the goal being to make them fast but still very, very deep. So far, the Events have been playing out at very healthy paces, but still with a ton of play, and ending after a good amount of time. It's great to see.

Thanks!

I don't mind at all, and I can tell you that it is published on the leaderboard page. "No Points Awarded in Non-Cashing Place" There are no cashing places in a tournament which is 100% knockouts.

You might expect that, but honestly I think that making an argument for consistency with the regular schedule within a championship series, which is specifically designed to be special from front to back, doesn't make much sense. Pretty much every structure in every series gets dedicated attention with the goal in mind to make each event and each series a unique, special, and immensely rewarding experience for those who play. The structures in *COOP events are special, they're often unique and not seen at any other time than during a championship series. It would be a pretty boring series (comparatively) if the only thing special about each event was the size of the guarantee.

...and that would be quite silly. If you're entering an event, particularly one which is by its very nature special (e.g. non-standard), it would be quite careless for someone who is actively interested in the structure to not examine the structure before committing a buy-in.

Given that I created 2x-Turbo, 3x-Turbo, and 4x-Turbo myself (2x-Turbo as far back as 2006)... I tend to think that it'd be pretty unlikely for me to get the defining characteristics of the tournament type(s) wrong.

The sit & go satellites into Event 19 closed "early" (earlier than planned, but right as the event began) as a result of the fact that the tournament needed to be re-created at the last minute. I understand that the S&G ending when the event began may have been troubling for those who were using them to grind T$, but honestly I don't see it as any kind of failure at all, really. There are tons of S&G satellites available.

Late registration could probably be extended by at least 15 minutes in most events, however the decision was made to go with 2 hours for most. With the current setting, the last player to register still comes in with 12-14 BB. (Depending on sync break length, late registration tends to close in either the BB700 or BB800 level.)

Event 24 has been fixed.

Event 27 is 6-Max, as intended. Where have you seen it announced as 9-Max? If you're referring to a blog post or something like that, such things aren't definitive. The schedule as deployed in the client is always the final word.

Thanks as always for the feedback, everyone! I hope that you're having an amazing time playing TCOOP 2017!

Will there be final table recaps in YouTube? The TCOOP ones were always the best because there were so many all-ins to sweat.

Bryan,

Last event on 25th jan starts at 20:00 cet and then NLO8 Phase2 starts at 00:30 cet on 26th Jan.
Why such a big gap?
What should we do if we lost all turbos - sit and wait for 2 hours for $27 phase2?
Very inconvenient.... maybe you could shift it few hours back.

Thanks.

Prog
Bubble Rush
Prog
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Zoom Plo
Hyper

Cool Sunday.

My official feedback is 0/6. Be better.

Today's schedule needed some more tourneys and more varied options.

As great as a 700 prsko is, it prices out most of your customer base including tons of regs who would never think of spending 700 on a turbo. Of course it's part of the schedule, but I would have liked an accompanying 82 mini with it tho. Both of those tournaments would genuinely attract a different player pool because of the difference in buyin. I know minis are not on the dock for tcoop but my point is just how huge an 82 would have been there without tons of significant cannibalisation. It could have started an hour later or something. Just felt I want to see more events on a Sunday.

Two events I wasn't a huge fan of: 215 nl omaha hi/lo was scheduled for today but I think Sundays should really have great Holdem events to attract the big numbers with the smaller game types restricted to weekdays. Also bubble rush 215 6 max is not so great. Bubble rush is just a horrendous format. Yes it beat the guarantee but that's expected for almost every tcoop tournament.

A normal 215 prog tcoop would have smashed in that place. Also late in the session all we have is the 215 Sunday sonic. I understand making it part of tcoop but I have never seen the logic behind this. It's like when the storm is included as a micro millions tournament. These are already huge tournaments that don't really need the promotion of an x-coop. There should be a late 82/109 tcoop and maybe even a late 27 tcoop turbo/hyper prsko hold'em to end the Sunday session. 215 sonic is just pretty standard.

Overall loving tcoop tho. Thanks for listening to our feedback and working together with us.

Wow I completely missed the players choice event 215 prsko. That tourney would have satisfied my desire for a 215 prog so u can disregard those specific comments Bryan.

i usually get the schedule from this thread, since it takes longer to go up at the client
it wasn't mentioned as 6-max, but yeah figured it's probably that as a hyper, supersonic SE

i also thought today's PLO event was a 3-max instead of 3-max for the same reason, oops :/

been enjoying the series so far, although today was pretty meh for me with 5/6 events being a 6-max, 4max [prefer fullring/8max]

ok, then why are calling it a splash then??

if i see ultra-deep it's usually 50K stack [maybe 100K if it's a high roller, idk], when i see bubble rush i expect it too be itm more quickly, big antes to have bigger antes than the rest, etc.
never mind though, imo it's a matter of consistency, you don't see it, fine by me... i'll just check out the structures every time

can you add some Rd1s to the $82,109,162 main event sats? thanx

Yeah I was going to for the same. Is this something that will appear or not really?

215t HU - Event 18 ran for over 17 hours until 13:30 PM the next day. Seems a bit excessive. Esp since next day was a sunday. I liked the structure, but perhaps go for a 2day and not saturday-sunday then. Or reduce startstack.

Yep, a bunch of Round 1s to the Main Event satellites is coming up in a little bit.

The structure was too generous, that's for certain. This will be adjusted before the next Heads-Up event.

The following Round 1s were just added for all of the Main Event satellites through January 28th:

• ..to the $5.50 Big Splashes:
  • $0.11+R Big Splash
  • $0.33+R Splash
  • $0.55+R Little Splash

• ..to the $11 Splashes:
  • $0.33+R Big Splash
  • $0.55+R Splash
  • $1.10+R Little Splash

• ..to the $82 Turbos:
  • $0.44+R Big Splash
  • $0.82+R Splash
  • $1.65+R Little Splash
  • $11 Turbo
  • $27 Hyper-Turbo

• ..to the $109 Turbos:
  • $0.55+R Big Splash
  • $1.10+R Splash
  • $1.65+R Little Splash
  • $16 Turbo
  • $27 Hyper-Turbo

• ..to the $162 Turbos:
  • $0.88+R Big Splash
  • $1.65+R Splash
  • $3.30+R Little Splash
  • $27 Turbo
  • $42 Hyper-Turbo

Thanks again for pointing out that these needed to be renewed, and enjoy!

the problem was starting it 500 bb deep. If you want keep it as such make it 3min levels for the first 6-8 levels.

the 4 max plo zoom psko had them playing 3 handed and headsup on 2 tables with 5 left. inexcusable imo. can u ensure this wont happen with any future 4 max events.

just seen there is a NL limit omaha format (event 43) . terrible format for a tournament. why would you have a format that you don't even have for cash games

Hi Brian! First thanks for a great serie, there is way more play than I tought and still it doesn t take half a day to finish!

Is it possible to have some infos/hints on the 1k main event satellites on sunday, like the buy in, nb seats gtd, the start time and the number of deadline sats? And if there will be some pre rounds to the deadline sats?

If my memory is right, during wcoop/scoop deadline sats are already in the lobby at the start of the serie.

Thanks in advance for your answer!

There's a pretty big glitch in today's FLO8 event. The small blind has remained at 65. Blinds are currently 65/500 preflop.

the lobby says rake will be refunded and the event will play out

no $74s during the late reg period of the $215 10stack?

Live n-max tournaments typically go to the final table at n+1. However, this is not the case on Pokerstars other than with 4max where the FT is at 5 so there isn't a heads up table. Luke did mention in the other thread that he's looking into doing FTs for 6max at 7 and 9max at 10 as is done live, which I personally disagree with for a number of reasons, but that's besides the point.

However, there was no 4max PLO event. It was a 3max event. Going by the n+1 FT standard, a 4 handed FT is what should happen and is what did happen. But making an exception for this non-standard format and doing a 5 handed FT seems reasonable seeing as heads up is so much different than 3 handed. Presumably however they were playing hand for hand at this point, so at least both tables were playing the same number of hands, but being heads up in a tournament with multiple tables remaining leaves the door pretty wide open for collusion, even passive non-spoken collusion, by the heads up duo to both ladder to the FT.

When I read "NL limit," I was like , is this some new funky format that's no limit pre and limit post or vice versa like PNL (pot limit pre, no limit post). But nah, it's just NLO. Tbh, I'm very surprised there aren't NLO cash game tables. NLO8 is a very popular game especially in hypers. And I've played NLO a lot in my home game and it's an awesome cash game -- the gamblers love it, they just shovel money into the pot really bad.

Personally, I feel Omaha plays much better NL in shortstacked situations as otherwise it's much harder to get your money all-in (certainly that increases the skill gap of the game, but makes it quite frustrating for inexperienced players).

Overall, keep in mind that just because something doesn't play well as deepstacked cash game doesn't mean it won't work in a shortstacked tournament format and vice versa.

Not really a complaint since I probably like it this way better, but event 41 says [Turbo, Big Antes] but the structure seems to be exactly the same as for other $82 NL Holdem events?

thin

same for ante up and draw tourneys.

I actually noticed this at the very beginning when the tcoop schedule was deployed in the client, they all had the same blind structures including the hyper tourneys. So I guess as the event approaches, he has a final look and make changes whatever required..

13$ mincash in the 27$ 75% ko seems a little bit too tiny

Correct.

It's a $13 min-cash on a buy-in of $6.14. The rest went to the KO pool.