If they are going to add events at that slot, then they have to add events in the late edition slot as well.

Cant remove the watch to the winner!!

+1 to stud instead of 5draw

Ante up, win the button, 100% ko, bubble rush all garbage

Totally agree with you. All of them are terrible. Especially that 100% KO which is just a silly thing for such a big series.

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Ante up is probably the most strategically interesting NLHE variant spread on PS. Bryan took pride in the fact that grinders would ask him not to spread it because it was too hard. The skill gap is pretty large too. Not only do you have people folding for 5 chips in a pot of 7000, you have to develop a limp/backraising range and all sorts of other cool stuff no one has never even had to think of before.

As for win the button, this variant has been immensely popular on the EPT, so it's about time it made its way to the online client. It spices up an otherwise boring slow deepstacked NLHE event into something fresh and new and eye catching without really changing the game. Not to mention I'd think you grinder sickos would love anything that not only gets people excited but increases the skill gap. You should do well at increasing your aggression to win the button and adapting to other people doing the same, probably more than they should.

I've never played 100% KO, so I can't comment if it's good or bad or fun or lame, but innovation is rarely a bad thing. If you hate it so much, don't play! Not every tournament is meant to be for every person. In general, I don't like the idea of KO tournaments in championship series since you create conflicting goals: winning the title and winning max $ which involves winning KOs even if it decreases your chance of winning the title (especially so with PKO, in reg KO it stops mattering at the end) -- however between the lack of SCOOP watches and the high total number of events, it keeps like winning the title is less meaningful these days, so whatever.

Assuming Luke follows in Bryan's footsteps, saying a tournament is a turbo or hyper means it's turbo or hyper according to SCOOP standards, much deeper and slower than your regular turbo or hyper. Luke, if you could confirm this, it would probably assuage a lot of concerns. Again to all your nit grinders, if you had to chose between a turbo event and a bubble rush, which would you chose? Yeah, I thought so.

Unfortunately they can and they will

Shame tho. Expected nothing less tbh
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Ante up is actually fairly fun. Win the button hasnt shown me anything fun tbh and although a fun live mtt format its kind of meh online ..

Like last poster said of we dont like them we dont have to play them i do agree leas gimmicky formats and more a regular old style scoop would probably get just as much entrants with gimmicky formats

Thats true, if you hate it dont play it, but we are getting close to the point that if you wanna play a vanilla nlhe event during scoop, the only event your gonna be able to play is the main.

this

dont be dumb

Everyone uses the $162 WTB as an example of why WTB is no good. Keep in mind that $162 was a struggling tournament that was set to be taken off the schedule but was made WTB to keep it alive. This tournament gets at least as many if not more runners than it did when it was not WTB. It's a pretty dead tournament with our without WTB.

$55 wtb is also not popular really. it's just not a format that is widely played and has no place in a championship series

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Well written, totally agree with you

Guaranteeds though

Yeah 3 max zoom and more 27/215 etc

I like WTB, ante up, even 100% psko. I don't know why they wouldn't each get 1 event, just like every game in 8-game, horse and 8game itself should have one event. If that means there are too few regular nlhe events left then I'd prefer adding more events over scrapping game formats you can only play once or twice a year with a good structure/playerpool.

Because 100% PSKO isn't a tried and tested game type?

We can't compare games like 100% PSKO and Razz.l, especially when the reasoning for the former is "somebody told me they think it would be cool"

100% PSKO has already been tried out in tcoop this year.

TCOOP-08: $82 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Progressive KO (100%)], $100,000 Guaranteed

It got a prizepool of $616,425.00

None of the other $82 buy in nlhe events (non-gimmicky) even touched $400k+

And they have already been tested in the daily schedule before. And they are in test again from today.

You should look at it another way, we're only asking to not run 100% psko twice a year; SCOOP and WCOOP. That doesn't seem much to ask for at all, especially since so many players agree on this. Cram them in the regular schedule all you want, as long as they don't take away from other tourneys. I will happily skip them

SCOOP is supposed to be about:

- Pure poker
- Amazing structures
- Prestige
- Watches for winners (see: prestige)
- Huge prizepools

Only thing that 100% psko fits in with from above list is 'huge prizepools', which can be argued with since in TCOOP a player finished somewhere at F2T without making a profit. Can you imagine how soulcrushing that is lol? I'm not saying he hunted bounties correctly but many recs will make big mistakes in this regard and they will be so fkn pissed off to play for that long, finish that strongly and get no $$$. Apart from that, my personal opinion is that it's just a terrible, overraked format that holds no prestige whatsoever and is completely against the spirit of SCOOP. I'm sure I could find some PS Bryan quotes that imply he would agree with this, so if that helps please let me know

This is just goes to show you grinders would prefer to be robots than actual poker players.

Is this in response to my post or are you typing random bs to someone else?

Pretty clear what's on their agenda - and if u think they care about anything else - time to wake up


definitely +1 to Stud and no Ante up

100% psko is the goat! the idea of 2nd getting potentialy 0 and 1st getting it all is incredible stop crying ffs dont play the event if you dont want to see it again, 'data' will make it go away i hate the 25/75 saturday pskos the 100 one is diff strat all together love the fact u attack other players for $ rather than being a laddering nit box

I completely agree with you and I have already said that I don't think this format is a right one for scoop/wcoop (tcoop is fine). But then again one would have to wait 12 months to play this type of format and with such massive prizepool something which we wont be happening in the daily schedule. Btw if they really want to have this format (but with turbo), I think it would be best if it ran on last sunday/ or on 22nd may monday. I'm sure you'd agree to at least this than if it were to ran on wednesday 17th.

Lets see what Luke has to say on this.

I think if 1 or 2 reentries were allowed to most of the low events, it would boost prizepools greatly, and the rec:reg ratio in terms of entries wouldnt change too much

Compromise: Make 1 event Ante up WTB (and another) 100% pko Bubble Rush

Everybody happy