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02-22-2017 , 06:10 AM
Get rid of all these words - Progressive KO, Ante Up, Win the Button, Bubble Rush, Turbo, Hyper-Turbo.
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02-22-2017 , 06:22 AM
I met a parent who doesn't vaccinate their children therefore I think it's also a valid strategy.
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02-22-2017 , 06:55 AM
Luke - If a players only goal is to accumulate bounties, that removes a lot of the strategy and basically turns the tournament into basically a gamble fest.

I'm all for trialing new formats of poker (apart from BTC, power up etc) but I don't think all of these formats (this one in particular) should be used in a COOP. Just put them in the regular schedule and if they really take off then fair enough.

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02-22-2017 , 07:56 AM
Can we have some earlier nlhe events? As in earlier in the day.. stuff starting at 0400 - 0700 ET?
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02-22-2017 , 08:50 AM
Like I get you need to prioritise peak time grinders but to completely shut out the off peak player pool during the best tourney series of the year seems a bit unfair? You don't have to replace events.. just add a couple extra 5/55/530 and/or 11/109/1k standard nlhe freezeout events in the 0400 to 0700 ET time bracket on weekdays. Or have "early" editions of scoop events like you currently do for super Tuesday, thurs thrill, Monday 6max etc. Just please do something for us.

Last edited by C-Unit; 02-22-2017 at 08:59 AM.
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02-22-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Reasons behind different payouts this year compared to last year?
This was not answered
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02-22-2017 , 12:11 PM
I'm not a enthusiastic of this schedule. I'll just tell what i would change in NLH:

- event 2, as Luke said to a user, "how dare you??" turning Warm Up in a PKO??

- event 12, i really dont understand the benefits of having a ante up and in a big day, as always a Tuesday is

- event 16, as everyone said, SCOOP is one of the few times that we can play really good structures, so please turn this into a normal 1k, VLT if you want. If this year will have less turbos, i just think we should have zero turbos.

- event 22, everyone will play only the SCOOP event, because 6Max Zoom will request a lot of attention. You can keep the 6Max or the Zoom, both i think will be a bad idea

- whats wrong with the first Saturday? If you dont change the hour of event 23, i have zero interest on playing this day

- i dont like 4max and 3max events but it's just my opinion. Please dont consider having this two, but i guess people prefer the 3max. But in these day, you have to swap the events, shootout have to be earlier or you'll have a big fail on this event

- +1 on having 1575$/2100$ tuesday and thrill on 2nd week

- Luke, you can say that 100% PKO is "fun to watch" and you want try but what we want to say is a big NOOOO! That's probably the poorest idea on the whole schedule

- event 45 please turn into a VLT or something you want, just not a turbo or a hyper. We deserve better than this on a SCOOP! Just keep the turbos for the last day
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02-22-2017 , 12:27 PM
What's with the rule for each level being 10x more than the next? Feel like 27/109 or 162/1050 would be best for mixed games like 08 etc.
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02-22-2017 , 12:54 PM
I slightly amended Lukes initial schedule, with what I think would work really well.



Sunday, May 7th

08:00 SCOOP-: $11/$109 [Sunday Kickoff SE]/$1,050 NLHE
11:00 SCOOP-: $27/$215 [Sunday Warm-Up SE]/$2,100 NLHE
14:00 SCOOP-: $27/$215 [Sunday Million SE]/$2,100 NLHE
15:30 SCOOP-: $11/$109/$1,050 [Sunday Grand SE] PLO [6-Max]*
17:00 SCOOP-: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [6-Max]* [Variable Levels, Progressive KO]

Changes-

Changed PSKO from warmup to the last event as its more reasonable to have a quicker structure/psko on the last event and keep the SWU pure.

Monday, May 8th

11:00 SCOOP--06: $11/$109/$1,050 NLO8 [6-Max, Progressive KO]*
13:30 SCOOP--07: $5.50+R/$55+R/$530+R NLHE
15:00 SCOOP--08: $11/$109/$1,050 HORSE*
16:30 SCOOP--09: $27/$215/$1050 NLHE [Win the Button]*

Changes-

Changed the WTB high buy in down one slot. Its a new event that a lot of people haven’t played and it doesn’t work right now. The 162 WTB gets 60 players maximum, so having a $1k versus a $2k will naturally help with runners, $27 and $215 should still be very popular so wouldn’t change those.

Tuesday, May 9th

10:30SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Phase 1]
12:00 SCOOP--10: $5.50+R/$55+R/$530+R PLO [6-Max]
13:30 SCOOP--11: $11/$109/$1,050 [Super Tuesday SE] NLHE
16:00 SCOOP--12: $5.50/$55/$530 NLHE [Progressive KO, Ante Up]*

Wednesday, May 10th

11:00 SCOOP--13: $27/$215/$2,100 Razz*
13:30 SCOOP--14: $215/$2,100/$25,000 NLHE [8-Max, High Roller]*
16:00 SCOOP--15: $11/$109/$1,050 PLO8 [6-Max]*
17:30 SCOOP--16: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Variable Levels]

Changes-

Changed event 16 from a turbo, to a variable levels which is way more reasonable imo.

Thursday, May 11th

10:30 SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Phase 1]
12:00 SCOOP--17: $27/$215/$2,100 FL Triple Draw 2-7*
13:30 SCOOP--18: $11/$109/$1,050 [Thursday Thrill SE] NLHE [Progressive KO]
16:00 SCOOP--19: $27/$215/$2,100 PLO [Heads-Up]

Friday, May 12th

11:00 SCOOP--20: $11/$109/$1,050 Stud8*
12:00 SCOOP--53: $11c/$109c/$1,050c NLHE [Phase 1]
13:30SCOOP--21: $11/$109/$1,050 FLO8 [8-Max]*
16:00 SCOOP-: $27/$215/$2,100 NLHE [6-Max, Zoom]*

Changes-

Changed the second event from a phase to a cubed. I know they are raked, but without having an attractive event here event body is going to take the day off as its such a **** day.


Saturday, May 13th

09:00 SCOOP--23: $5.50/$55/$530 NLHE [Progressive KO]
11:00 SCOOP--24: $27/$215/$2,100 8-Game*
13:30 SCOOP--25: $215/$2,100/$25,000 NLHE [Heads-Up, High Roller]
15:00 SCOOP--53: $27/$215/$2100 NLHE marathon event
16:00 SCOOP--26: $27/$215/$2,100 NLO8 [6-Max, Variable Levels]*

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Again this looks like a very awful day. The marathon event was currently a phase for you. Having this is a really nice event and runs nicely saturday/sunday/monday. A lot of amateurs will have this as their first saturday off work and the schedule is really poor for them. I don’t think regs should be taking this saturday off either, but it looks really boring atm without this.

Changed turbo from event 26 into variable levels.

Sunday, May 14th

08:00 SCOOP--27: $11/$109 [Sunday Kickoff SE]/$1,050 NLHE
11:00 SCOOP--28: $27/$215 [Sunday Warmup SE]/$2,100 NLHE [6-Max]*
14:00 SCOOP--29: $27/$215 [Sunday Million SE]/$2,100 NLHE
16:30 SCOOP--30: $5.50/$55/$530 PLO [6-Max, Progressive KO]*
17:00 SCOOP- - XX: $11/$109/$1050 [Ultra Deep, Variable Levels]

Added a 5th event for Sunday, I think this is completely reasonable. Sundays has traditionally always had more events than week days and there is more than enough demand to have a really good event here with huge prize pool.


Monday, May 15th

11:00 SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Phase 1]
12:30 SCOOP--31: $11/$109/$1,050 FLHE [6-Max]*
13:30 SCOOP--32: $27/$215/$2,100 NLHE [4-Max]*
16:00 SCOOP--33: $27/$215/$2,100 NLHE [6-Max, Shootout]

Changes-

None, think its pretty solid day. Although I really doubt Phase 1 will work well here, would likely replace with some kind of mixed game event, perhaps 5 card plo


Tuesday, May 16th

10:30 SCOOP-53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Phase 1]
12:00 SCOOP--34: $11/$109/$1,050 PLO8 [8-Max]*
13:30 SCOOP--35: $27/$215/$2100 [Super Tuesday SE 8 max] NLHE
16:00 SCOOP--36: $11/$109/$1,050 FL Badugi*

Changes-

Changed the Super Tuesday buy in, it should be unique to the previous week, also made it 8 max, which I think works well.

Wednesday, May 17th

12:00 SCOOP--37: $5.50/$55/$530c NLHE [Progressive KO]
13:30 SCOOP--38: $215/$2,100/$25,000 PLO [6-Max, High Roller]*
14:00 SCOOP--39: $55/$530/$5,200 NLHE [8-Max]
16:30 SCOOP--40: $5.50/$55/$530 NLO [8-Max, Win the Button]*

Changes-

Started the 8 max 1 hour earlier, structure will be very good and think having it start a little bit earlier will be fine. It means we finish earlier (there is a good early event the next day people wont want to skip) and late regging is totally fine for people who want to start 1 hour later.

Of course changed the 100% PSKO to a normal tournament. i think rebuy works really nicely here, even though rebuys are raked. Having a nice rebuy a few hours before the 5k is pretty sexy I think. Amaya will be happy, players will be happy.

Thursday, May 18th

11:00 SCOOP--41: $5.50/$55/$530 NLHE [N-Stack]
13:30SCOOP--42: $27/$215/$2100 [Thursday Thrill SE] NLHE
15:00 SCOOP--43: $11/$109/$1,050 Stud*
16:30SCOOP--53: $11/1$109/$1,050 NLHE [3 Max - PSKO Zoom]

Changes

Changed deep stack to N stack. I may be biased because I won this event, but I think n-stack is really nice. Lets you choose how deep you want to be, gives people “another chance” and its something different, which is always appreciated.

Changed buy in to Thursday Thrill to 2k (see ST)

A thursday should be a day that were really looking forward to. After the Thrill regs always keep playing and regging, having a phase is a bit of a waste, it seems like the PERFECT spot to implement the 3 max PSKO (zoom optional)


Friday, May 19th

11:00 SCOOP-44: $11+R/$109+R/$1,050+R NLHE
13:30 SCOOP--45: $5.50/$55/$530 NLHE [ULTRA DEEP, Variable levels]*
15:00 SCOOP--46: $11/$109/$1,050 5-Card NLO8 [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo]*
16:30 SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Phase 1]

Changes-

I actually think that having ultra deep variable levels starting basically when late reg ends for the rebuy works way better than bubble rush. This way you have 2 really nice tournaments starting at once. Friday is generally withered, but this would be a really nice day.

Saturday, May 20th

10:00 SCOOP--48: $5.50/$55/$530 NLHE [Progressive KO, Win the Button]*
11:00 SCOOP--47: $27/$215/$2,100 NLHE [6-Max]*
13:30 SCOOP--49: $27/$215/$2,100 NLO8 [6-Max]*
15:00 SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [4-Max]
16:00 SCOOP--50: $11/$109/$1,050 NL 2-7 Single Draw*

Changes-

Changes events 47/48 around, think this is definitely the better order because of the 6max being a higher buy in and people starting later, and I also started 530 1 hour later. For a Saturday, people generally like to do things with their family etc, starting things an hour later I think works really well. Even for people in later time zones like europe, starting an hour later is very normal i think.

I also changed the phase event for a 4max, at this point the earlier events will be usually deepish or busted, having another good holdem event here works really nicely I think and seems a good time to implement 4max into a schedule.


Sunday, May 21st

08:00 SCOOP-51: $11/$109/$1,050 PLO [6-Max]*
09:00 SCOOP--53: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Turbo, Final Phase 1]
10:00 SCOOP- XX: $11/$109/$1050 [Ultra Deep Kick off]
11:00 SCOOP--52: $27/$215 [Sunday Warm-Up SE]/$2,100 NLHE [8-Max]
14:00 SCOOP--54: $109/$1,050/$10,300 NLHE [Main Event]*
17:00 SCOOP--55: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Turbo, Progressive KO]*

Changes-

Added an extra event, ultra deep kick off. by this point most people will have qualified for phase 2 and because its a turbo it wont last long anyway, having a nice ultra deep event earlier is such a great way to start the day and they were always really popular previously.
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02-22-2017 , 01:19 PM
Pay tables will be slightly flatter in this year's Events. Last year, the High Events primarily had 1-in-9 pay tables and the Low and Medium had 1-in-8. This will be altered to 1-in-8 and 1-in-7, respectively. There will be some exceptions, such as the Phase Event.


wtf does this even mean . instead of 1 in 9 , 1 in 8 gets paid ?
Or do the top finishers get paid a smaller % and it's being packaged in a disingenuous and confusing way ?
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02-22-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The reduction in $27 (or higher) Low buy-ins is due to the changes to non-NLHE games. These games will benefit from having lower buy-ins.
Let’s take a look at HORSE performance in the past. It had $7.50/$82, $11/$109, $27/$215 buy ins in last few years of scoops and they all ran on same day - Friday so a perfect example to know how much these games would benefit from having lower buy ins (or at least we will get an idea):

HORSE (Low Buyin):

MWCOOP 2016 - $11 – 1419 entries (23rd Sept – Friday) - $14,190.00 Prizepool [No MTT sats ran]
SCOOP 2016 - $113217+822 entries (20th May – Friday) - $40,390.00 Prizepool [Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2015 - $7.50 – 3975 entries (22nd May – Friday) - $27,109.50 Prizepool [No Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2014 - $272643 entries (16th May – Friday) - $64,885.65 Prizepool (Could have been $75K+ if it was re-entry) [No Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2013 - $27 – 2826 entries (24th May – Friday) - $69,378.30 Prizepool [No Re-Entry]

HORSE (Medium Buyin):

SCOOP 2016 - $109745+245 entries - $99,000.00 Prizepool [Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2015 - $82 – 921 entries - $69,075.00 Prizepool [No Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2014 - $215592 entries - $118,400.00 Prizepool (Could have been $135K+) [No Re-Entry]
SCOOP 2013 - $215 – 567 entries - $113,400.00 Prizepool [No Re-Entry]

So Luke, what would you prefer.. a $11 buy in with ~4000 entries with $40K prizepool or a $27 buy in with ~2500 entries with ~$60K prizepool? Note in 2014 Horse didn’t have re-entry. So to be fair let’s assume there would have been 500 more entries, so 3k entries ~73k prizepool (almost double)? Btw If you really think these games can get 4k+ entries if they were $11, than I don't have any problem.

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I agree that 100% KO should be re-entry for the fun factor, but I don't want to overdo the amount of NLHE re-entry in the schedule. I'll consider it.
I guess for this type of format, no player would mind if this was a re-entry. Also to add more, I think you should consider running this format on the last Sunday of the series. Perhaps make SCOOP-55 – 100% KO as I think this format would do well with a faster paced structure. And SCOOP-37 which was originally supposed to be 100% KO (non-turbo), make that 50%. What do you think?

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Your feedback regarding Draw is fair, though it is worth mentioning that Draw was on a Sunday while Stud was on the Saturday just before Main Event Sunday. Despite this, the High Stud Event drew a bigger crowd. I suspect that the Low and Medium Stud Events would've done much better on a Sunday. Regardless, I tend to think that we'll begin rotating the less popular games in WCOOP/SCOOP.
Stud games require more focus and wouldn’t do well on Sundays compared to Draw games. And I know it’s too early but for WCOOP I think it would be a big mistake to leave out any of the variant. You can try rotating these games in TCOOP/SCOOP though.

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I'm not sure about the payouts. On one hand, I agree that it is potentially a draw for some players. On the other hand, I want the Events to be focused around the poker being played and not other external factors. I also want to avoid any potential confusion that could lead to smaller fields.
Well in that case you shouldn't be running a 100% KO tourney :P (Btw am not against that format). If a tourney label clearly mentions something like "25% places paid" or "Big Min Cash", I don't see how it could potentially cause any confusion. In fact I feel this would cause curiosity among players and they would want to try something which they have never seen before. Like for example last year in WCOOP, $215 Sunday Warm up Deep Payouts format (which was tried for the first time) got more entries than the standard version of SWU (11th sep vs 18th sep). Similarly, $320 Win the Button format which was tried for the first time in wcoop, got more entries than the $320 8max (both ran on weekdays and at same time slot). The reason they did better than the standard ones was because they were something new and were never tried out before and clearly didn't cause any confusion which you're trying to point out. I hope this convinces you to go for Big Min Cash tourney or any other innovative idea you have in your mind. (Btw my % of trying to convince you on anything is close to 0.5% )

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How dare you suggest breaking the sacred [almost] 10x rule!
Haha I knew this was coming! But I guess exceptions can be made as long as it benefits them.
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02-23-2017 , 03:34 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but are these events going to be 2 day events like last year?

Also, is it possible to get a bit earlier starting times on some events? Playing from europe and having a day-job means I can't play some of the late events i would love to play (like sunday million(s) special editions for example)
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02-23-2017 , 04:40 AM
Can we move Event 51 to Friday May 12th and Make it the premier PLO event? i.e. 6max, 27/215/2k no bounties.

There's already so much going on, on the last sunday with satellites etc that having an early PLO event might suffer. The PLO championship during wcoop was a weekday and got a great turn out for the price point. Friday May 12th doesn't have any premier NLHE events and could easily support this tournament at a later time slot to allow fun players to get home from work and then be available to play on the weekend in a 2 day event.

I would also +1 to making the 2nd ST/Thursday thrill either a 16.50/162/1575 or 27/21/2100. There was a lot of success with this during wcoop. Keep it rolling.

Sunday May 14 could definitely support a late starting 5.50/55/530 or 11/109/1050 deep turbo event or something that has progressively longer blind levels as you get deeper (not bubble rush though!!!)

Good work so far.
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02-23-2017 , 06:15 AM
I liked the changes OldSurveySays made to the schedule.
I want to add one thing: NO turbos please! Turbos doesnt fit into SCOOP!
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02-23-2017 , 07:00 AM
i like the changes pads proposes heres some additions:

i def liek the incluion of a deepstack tournament so rather have that than n-stack but if nstack soemhow is a popular format pelase have both

def less/no turbos and all late events should be variable or regular levels

def have 3-max pko this is a nobrainer

marathon worked perfectly in wcoop wtf happened there this is a MUST have mtt

$27/$162/$1050 is so perfect its sad that this hasnt been considered
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02-23-2017 , 08:29 AM
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+1 for marathon event

+1 for more 27$ vs 11$ (215vs109 etc)

-1 for 100% psko

will there be watches for the winners?
+1
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02-23-2017 , 08:57 AM
also tend to agree with the -100% pko sentiment. tcoop sure fine its not a real championship series anyway but it has nothing to do with SCOOP's prestige
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02-23-2017 , 08:58 AM
i personally would like to have more events outside the traditional peaktime window. some startign at the times of the early thrill would be nice
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02-23-2017 , 09:00 AM
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i personally would like to have more events outside the traditional peaktime window. some startign at the times of the early thrill would be nice
Third person in a day to ask for earlier start times for some tourneys... just saying. Please stars.
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02-23-2017 , 12:54 PM
Thanks for posting the draft, Luke. A few comments/suggestions/inquiries below:

1) How many re-entries do you plan on allowing in the * games? Bryan included the number for each tournament during last year's drafts. Imo, allowing for 3 in non-holdem events wouldn't benefit the recreational players.

2) Other than Event 37 (100% PKO), you did not include a bounty percentage for the other Progressive KO events. Can you confirm that they will all be 50%? Any thoughts on offering lower percentages (25%/33%) for a couple of tournaments for some variety?

3) Anything to share regarding the Players Choice event(s)?

4) 12:00 SCOOP-37: $11/$109/$1,050 NLHE [Progressive 100% KO]

Personally I don't mind having 1 out of 50+ events be "gimmicky". If these are only going to be offered during TCOOP, players will have to wait a long time to play them.

A couple of tweaks is to make this a faster structure (with unlimited re-entries, as anuj suggested earlier) and move it to the very end of the schedule on Monday. You can use the final Monday to experiment with formats for future COOPs.

5)15:00 SCOOP-46: $11/$109/$1,050 5-Card NLO8 [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo]

As one of the biggest advocates of NLO8 hypers, I don't think this format is suited for SCOOP due to the amount of gambling that goes on in this game. An 8-max NLO8 turbo/variable level would be better suited here imo.

Also, if you want to experiment with a hyper, I suggest moving it to the last Monday alongside the 100% PKO event.

6) 16:00 SCOOP-15: $11/$109/$1,050 PLO8 [6-Max]

I understand the change from $27/$215/$2100 to $11/$109/$1050 for some of the less popular non-holdem games. Do you think going the other way by increasing the buyins would be beneficial for some of the more popular games?

Would you consider $55/$530/$5200 for PLO8? Or $33/$320/$3150 with the $320 becoming a "High Roller Omania SE" if it was run on the correct day?

7) 11:00 SCOOP-20: $11/$109/$1,050 Stud8
13:30 SCOOP-21: $11/$109/$1,050 FLO8 [8-Max]
12:30 SCOOP-31: $11/$109/$1,050 FLHE [6-Max]
16:00 SCOOP-50: $11/$109/$1,050 NL 2-7 Single Draw

I have mixed feelings about lowering all of these events $11/$109/$1050. If players average 1.5 re-entries, your ABI is close to last year's buyins ($27/$215/$2100), but the fields are tougher and isn't a good direction long-term.

I also think a few of these games suffered last year because they were in the later 16:00 slots. Moving the FLO8 and Stud 8 to an earlier timeslot should help the performance. Any chance of bumping one or these back to a $27?

Looking at last year's data, FLHE seemed to do fine at the old buyins. Any reason why this was reduced?

8) 15:00 SCOOP-43: $11/$109/$1,050 Stud

This event was slotted at 12:30 on a Saturday last year and I think will struggle even more with a weekday slot at a later time. How about offering Triple Stud, a second 8-Game or a second HORSE in this time slot instead?

9) 16:00 SCOOP-36: $11/$109/$1,050 FL Badugi

This event got 1943/311/55 players for the high last year. Would making it Pot Limit help its participation?

10) 16:00 SCOOP-26: $27/$215/$2,100 NLO8 [6-Max, Turbo]

Echoing what pads said, variable levels would provide a better playing experience.

Lastly, would this be a better fit for the 16:30 slot on Sunday (swapped with Event 30: $5.50/$55/$530 PLO [6-Max, Progressive KO])? Having a faster structure in the late slot of Sunday will help the field sizes for the next day.
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02-23-2017 , 02:32 PM
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Can we have some earlier nlhe events? As in earlier in the day.. stuff starting at 0400 - 0700 ET?
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Like I get you need to prioritise peak time grinders but to completely shut out the off peak player pool during the best tourney series of the year seems a bit unfair? You don't have to replace events.. just add a couple extra 5/55/530 and/or 11/109/1k standard nlhe freezeout events in the 0400 to 0700 ET time bracket on weekdays. Or have "early" editions of scoop events like you currently do for super Tuesday, thurs thrill, Monday 6max etc. Just please do something for us.
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i personally would like to have more events outside the traditional peaktime window. some startign at the times of the early thrill would be nice
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Third person in a day to ask for earlier start times for some tourneys... just saying. Please stars.
Yup so many people ask for this every series, adding an event in the early thrill/st (10 gmt) would do really well.
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02-23-2017 , 06:31 PM
pls no 100% pko

also more HORSE pls!

will the structures be similar to last years?

also, pretty big bummer about the no watches... any reason behind this?
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02-23-2017 , 07:23 PM
Earlier start times +1

The Shootout being late puts me off for sure.
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02-24-2017 , 01:40 PM
Hey everyone,

Thanks for your continued feedback! I'm glad you're all scouring the schedule and letting me know what SCOOP means to you. Numerous changes have been made to the schedule as a result of your feedback and I'm happy to share them with you below. Our goal is to finalize the schedule by end of business on Tuesday, so please continue to provide feedback because the clock is ticking!

The changes:
  • Event 4's buy-in has been increased to $27/$215/$2,100 as a result of Event 38's buy-in decreasing.
  • Event 12 is now a 3-Max Zoom Progressive KO.
  • Event 16 changed to Regular speed (not Slow!) and its start time has changed to 17:00.
  • Event 26 changed from NLO8 6-Max Turbo to 8-Max Regular speed (not Slow!).
  • The final two Events on 13 May have been moved up 30 minutes.
  • Event 28 is no longer Re-Entry.
  • Event 30's start time has changed to 15:30 and its buy-in has increased to $11/$109/$1,050.
  • Event 31's buy-in has increased to $27/$215/$2,100.
  • Event 35 and 42 have had their buy-in levels increased to $27/$215/$2,100.
  • Event 37 is now Re-Entry.
  • Event 38's buy-in has been reduced to $109/$1,050/$10,300. At $10,300, some of the many players who play the $2,100 PLO Event each year can still feasibly take a shot. If this tournament is successful, we'll consider increasing the buy-in for future Series.
  • Event 43 has changed from Stud to NL Draw.
  • Event 46 changed to Turbo Zoom (previously Hyper-Turbo).
  • Events 47 and 48 have had their starting times changed to 10:30 and 12:00, respectively.
  • Event 56 will be a Player's Choice Event at the $11/$109/$1,050 buy-in level. It will be a one day Event.

And to address some other feedback…

We revisited the idea of a Marathon Event after all of the feedback here and have reached the same conclusion. There will not be a Marathon Event in this year's SCOOP. In addition to the technical issues surrounding 3+ day tournaments, the mini-WCOOP version last year was not a success in my eyes. Even with eight hours of late registration, its performance did not best our typical Sunday tournaments by enough of a margin to make us feel it is a must-have Event in this Series. In order to run this Event successfully, we need the development. It will allow us to clearly communicate to players how the tournament works and what is expected of them to make it to the end. It is not possible for this feature to be developed and tested for SCOOP, so we're looking toward WCOOP to run a Marathon Event.

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The stakes levels will not change from the 10x rule. Not only is this rule unique to SCOOP and part of its identity, it clearly separates players by stakes. Changing $27/$215/$2,100 to $27/$215/$1,050 would result in two stakes levels attracting very similar groups of players.

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Many of the Events will be 2-Day like they have been in years past. Although I'm not at the point where I'm scripting tournaments, I have an idea of how some structures might change and also how Day 1 length might change, particularly in the Shootouts. I'm more than happy to share information and receive feedback regarding this when the time comes, but for now the focus is on finalizing the schedule in order to share it internally and start the Marketing machine.

Similarly, details regarding the number of re-entries will be available following a review of last year's performance of these tournaments and the preliminary setting of guarantees.

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For an explanation of why we're not awarding watches, I'd like to reference Bryan's WCOOP announcement post on the PokerStars Blog last year:

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Also in 2016, we have decided to stop awarding WCOOP bracelets. As part of an extensive review, we have found that although some players have been highly appreciative and valued the bracelets as the prestigious trophies we intended them to be from the start, the vast majority of players have made it clear that going after a bracelet is not something which motivates them to play the series. Given the fact that the spending on the bracelets represents a significant cost which is devoted to a very small percentage of the WCOOP population each year, the decision to discontinue them was clearer than it might have seemed initially. We will of course continue to send all WCOOP final table participants and winners a token of recognition of their achievement, in addition to the massive prize awaiting each WCOOP Champion at the top of each prize table.
The same logic follows for SCOOP. We'll be awarding trophies to our Player of the Series winners and tokens to Event winners and final table participants.

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The Player of the Series payouts will be changing. Last year we awarded 451 prizes to players. Not only were these prizes awarded once the series concluded, but we do not believe players on the lower end of the leader boards are particularly engaged with the promotion. Our current plan is to reduce the number of places paid dramatically and use the money on other SCOOP-related promotions. This will help bring more attention to the Series while also awarding prizes that can be used in the Events themselves.

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That's all for now. I'm sure you'll all leave some great feedback for me to read over the weekend!
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02-24-2017 , 02:32 PM
So 0 stud hi events in SCOOP 2017? That sounds like a mistake. Formerly this was the highest stakes online stud tournament of the year at $2k. At $1k, it'd still be tied for 2nd highest with WCOOP. Not including stud in SCOOP will likely hurt the game overall, especially with the lack of the medium buyin, which is the only midstakes stud tournament of the year. Stud is far more commonly played live and online than NL draw. I have nothing against an NL draw tournament in SCOOP, but why pick and choose.
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