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Old 09-14-2010, 06:06 PM   #61
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Re: RUSH MTT Reg-Community

Heres my rush graph. I'm Adio-306 prolly played a few hands with some of you.

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Old 09-14-2010, 06:25 PM   #62
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Re: RUSH MTT Reg-Community

this is turning into a bbv thread
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:44 AM   #63
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Heya

Just to say that OP suggested a rush sng and MTT rush thread, very little here on larger MTT rushes -

I'd really like to discuss some early and late game folding strats and how often we try and steal the blind at low and mid blind limits (by stealing we are effectively wasitng time while we could be moving on for more premium hand holdings) and playing marginal hands. All these decisions are different in rush.

Also how should one be playing 6 max rushes in the late game.. raise like mad? 6 match MTT rushes are tougher for me because the blinds are catching you at a greater frequency. I'm sure there is some advanced strat on how quickly (or slowly) to fold late on in these but have no idea what it is.

In rushes you have some control on how many hands you play as you can elect NOT to quickfold depending on your stack size and blind size. Is it optimal to always quickfold with trash throughout? As the quicker you fold the quicker the blinds hit you.

Also how does ones 3bet frequncy change in rushes..

Any thoughts appreciated.
I've thought about this myself when playing the few tournies I have played. For one, in the latter stages (last 15 of a 135-man say) I generally have leaned towards letting the action get to me before folding. Only because I've noticed others do it and therefore I'm impeding myself by getting blinded away quicker than the rest. If you do press quick fold and you are at a table on your own for a bit, I would advocate slowing down for sure. I would guess this would therefore apply to mid/late stage large MTT's also.

Early stage, quick fold away for sure. Think this goes without saying.

Lastly, I'm guessing that raising more would be best for the 6-max games. Dont forget, others will be doing the same so optimal stategy therefore should mean to 3-bet (4-bet also as a metagame play?) more liberally as well as oppo opening range will be very wide?
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:31 AM   #64
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Hardest part for me is when you're average size stack close to the bubble and it's essentially 5/6max rush.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:00 PM   #65
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So when is it exactly optimal not to quick fold all the time as the blinds rise...there must be some structure to when you stop quickfolding in mtts..how high should the blinds be in relation to your stack to stop you quick folding...I can't find anything on the net to help me with this. thx
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:40 PM   #66
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LOL. Went on to finish 1st for $423.23.

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 Rush No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds - 7 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (BTN): t14117 47.06 BBs
SB: t7365 24.55 BBs
BB: t14187 47.29 BBs
UTG: t14353 47.84 BBs
UTG+1: t10378 34.59 BBs
MP: t12483 41.61 BBs
CO: t38637 128.79 BBs

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is BTN with K K
UTG raises to t14353 all in, 2 folds, CO calls t14353, Hero calls t14117 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t43273) 3 8 2

Turn: (t43273) 3

River: (t43273) Q

Final Pot: t43273
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Threes)
UTG shows A 7 (a pair of Threes)
CO shows A K (a pair of Threes)
CO wins t472
Hero wins t42801
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:41 PM   #67
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:42 PM   #68
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Still ~25 players remaining at that point.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:46 PM   #69
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:16 AM   #70
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Re: RUSH MTT Reg-Community

I can't believe I missed this thread. Here's my graph according to topshark, it's ~2:1 4s:12s and I had similar results with the 26s (which aren't sngs now).



Rush sngs start at #400.

I 4-6 tabled these for just about a month total and I have ~600 played and from the graphs ITT there haven't been any with a real sample size so my question is what type of ROI do we thing is sustainable in these? I doubt 85% which was posted earlier but 50%? if anyone has a good sample they'd like to share that'd be great too.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:25 AM   #71
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Ok,I will ask it in other words:

To any grinder who has multitabled rush sngs: ¿how many rush sngs is it posible to multitable comfortably?

For example,if "x" grinder can play 16 tables of 180sngs on PS,¿what number of rush sng tables could he play comfortably on FT?

1/2? 1/3? 1/4?

Which percentage would you say?

I think this question is crucial to thing if rush sngs can be profitable enough to make it worth..
I haven't played 180s but I ~10-12 tabled mtts before starting these and I started with 4 but moved to 6 tabling rush. I never really tried cramming in more but I don't feel like it would be doable for me especially because you play so many hands once antes kick in and tables get short that I'm not sure I could keep up well enough.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:08 PM   #72
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So when is it exactly optimal not to quick fold all the time as the blinds rise...there must be some structure to when you stop quickfolding in mtts..how high should the blinds be in relation to your stack to stop you quick folding...I can't find anything on the net to help me with this. thx
any help here?????????
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:56 PM   #73
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In the 135's, you need to start stealing when the BB is 160 (even if your stack is big), and you need to be stealing very wide when the antes kick in (340).
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:10 PM   #74
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Thx but wondered if anyone can help with the quickfolding late in rush mtts when the blinds and antes are very high..
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:53 PM   #75
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play enough and figure it out

not gonna spoon feed
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