I have been playing HU cash and 6max cash and HUSNGs for past 8 years 5 of those professionally. I am in the US and with the big surge of Twich I noticed a lot of players more were streaming MTTs than cash. Having only played less than 50 MTTs in my life I decided to start with the low stakes $10-$25 BI.

All I have to say is I have a new found respect for all you WSOP 1 event a day grinders and multi-MTT online grinders. HOW THE HELL DO YOU HAVE THE ENDURANCE? I mean you play so many MTTs just for a few cashes here and there in hopes of that big score?? I am really struggling. So far on bovada I have played around 6 MTTs and final tabled one for $77 lol. It was so damn exhausting for such a small score. Then again I know I don't have the skill set to play higher BIs but the fields seem just as big.

I have always thought that cash game players had more skills than MTTers that MTTs were more luck in the end than anything else. Then I see guys like Fedor Holz and Coleman prove me wrong.

I guess I have 2 questions how do you improve? Yes I have memorized push fold when short but watching RIO tourny vids is like slow death. Second question is where do you get the endurance?? In my opinion an MTT downswing has gotta feel 20X worse than a cash game DS cuz of all the endless hours wasted.

Then I look at sharkscope I see some graphs of MTT players look like I would expect them too big score followed by a bunch of missed then a few 100 later another score. It seems very RARE to see a consistent SS graph that resembles a decent cash game graph. Unless of coarse they are playing HUSNGs.

Please advise how an experienced cash game player can transition to MTTs and improve and tips on dealing with the long endurance required.

Thanks

-smoke so much weed you stop feeling feelings

-learn to play so many tables at once that you barely realize it when you bust out of one

-viciously chat literally whatever insane thoughts you think might be funny. at this point i'm certain that it's impossible to get chatbanned on bovada mtts

These are humorous, but the first two are actually things that make online grinding a lot easier than live grinding during June in Vegas.

It's a grind online, but you can take notes, eat, smoke (weed/cigs/?), use the bathroom liberally, enjoy various other media, etc. It's usually not that bad of a grind IMO (but I played no more than ~8 tables, usually 3-6... depending on time of day and whether grinding SNGs or not).

Two weeks in Vegas wiped me out. I had one day off (early in the trip) in almost two weeks there. Then my final full day ended early when I felted, so I had some time to relax and pack. WSOP first days had no breaks longer than 15 min., so playing from 3 PM to 2 AM without more than 15 min. at a time to pee, smoke, eat, drink, etc. Days 2 & 3 and the days at the Venetian were at least a little more reasonable, but Venetian was starting at 5 PM and going until 3 AM unless you busted. It probably affected me more, because I was on a more "normal" (work) schedule before and after, and also hadn't played any poker in 1.5 years (and no live poker in a few years). My feet are still flipping me the bird a week after returning.

If you enjoy the games you play and are playing well, you will find a way to adjust, but live is a lot tougher IMO (but also can be a lot funner in some ways). I wouldn't don't think I would want to grind live MTTs year round though, unless I had frequent long breaks in between big series. As it is, I don't think that would ever be an option for me anyways.

Hey OP,

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After all my hard training i finally had my biggest score in 2013.
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Totally different skill sets and aspirations cash and mtts..

I can say that mtts are so painstaking when u go 10k games be stretch but we play for the big prizes or the possibility, I actually envy the skillset of cash players cause it takes a lot of discipline in a different way, all I can say is try sngs first to get more of a tournament feel imo,

Also run good helps

Appreciate the advice sadly SNGs on bovada fill painfully slow.

i found that very low stakes, microstakes or points freerolls, hyper turbos or super turbos were a good place where i could safely learn to play more tables than i was usually comfortable with. you can't really expect to figure out how to do it without doing it, so you could at least try and be terrible and against that field you might even break even, even if you're making a lot more mistakes.

and playing tons of hands at low M will sharpen your shortstack skills and will help you find a feel for going all in a lot in tournaments.

If I ship you $50 will you send me an autograph ?

Petes got arses

^Uhhh dude $50 won't buy you much. The going price is $200. But i spose i can do you a 2+2 special for $185.

I'll give you a really good photo of me too.

petesgotaces

Lol weed masstabling and trashtalking confirmed the most important 3 things

if you're going 10k games BE you're doing it wrong.

If you can't possibly go 10k games BE you should move up to where they respect your raises.

Whatever keeps you alert and calm. I like all of the suggestions above. You should definitely plan out your meals before hand and be sure to eat enough.

You're right; variance doesn't exist.

There is no spoon.

patience, knowledge, experience and tilt control. Also weed is nice, helps me concentrate

Forgot to add; prepare food dishes before long sessions (weekend MTT sessions, wcoop/scoop etc). No time to cook dinner with 5 minute breaks. I always have 3 dishes ready for microwaving + a few sandwiches and lots of water (no coke/beer/vodka during sessions for me)

"long sessions" for me is 11-16h+ sessions

pre-cooked uncle bens rice packets you just gotta microwave for 90 secs and sandwhiches are the nuts for 5 min pee + snack breaks + half frozen water bottles to keep you hydrated / alert

easier to blame variance then skillz