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04-09-2017 , 07:21 AM

filhefor

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Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 30

Say that I'm staking a friend $500 to play $1000 rebuy tournament, and he makes one re buy. I say that I should have 25% of his winnings because my 500 is 25% of the total cost of the tournament 500/(1000+1000). If he didn't make any rebuy I should have 50% (500/1000).

But my friend says that I have 50% from the start but when he rebuys I have 0% because I had 50% from the first buy in and 0% from the second buy in. He is counting a re buy as a new tournament when I say it's the same tournament just that my $500 represents a lower percentage of the tournament if he rebuys.

Who do you think is right?

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04-09-2017 , 07:45 AM

Tithayer

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,853

I'd tend to say your friend is right. But usually, for tournaments that allow rebuy or reentry, this eventuality is covered by the staking contract. Look at the marketplace how this is done in the staking threads

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04-09-2017 , 07:59 AM

U shove i call

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,810

I think you should of clarified this up before it started. Its a rebuy wasn't there any discussion about this eventuality? As it stands i think your friend is right you agreed to take 500 action of a 1000 buyin and it bricked.

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04-09-2017 , 08:06 AM

filhefor

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Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 30

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Originally Posted by Tithayer

I cant start a new thread there

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Originally Posted by U shove i call

Yes I know. It was a mistake that we didn't clarified this before.

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04-09-2017 , 08:06 AM

alex21

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 52

if he plays it as a re-entry your friend is right. you would be freerolling him on the second buy-in.

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04-09-2017 , 08:21 AM

Tithayer

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,853

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Originally Posted by filhefor

I cant start a new thread there

Yes I know. It was a mistake that we didn't clarified this before.

Didn't say to start a thread, just look how rebuy/reentry are treated there's

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04-09-2017 , 09:50 AM

leitalopez

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 827

your friend is right. u have to always clarify this before the tournamet starts tho.
u have 0% equity on his 2nd bullet as things played out.

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04-09-2017 , 10:27 AM

filhefor

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Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 30

Thanks for all the answers

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04-09-2017 , 02:08 PM

rm81

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,621

Yes your firend is right just to clarify if he would give you 25% of the 2nd entry he is giving you $750 in value for your $500 because you got 500 already the first time and then would be getting an extra 250.

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04-15-2017 , 05:17 AM

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abecede

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 357

I say it should have been covered by agreement beforehand. As played now, I tend to go with your friend.

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04-23-2017 , 05:11 AM

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IcanbeatSO

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 48

not staking friend imo

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04-27-2017 , 08:52 AM

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aseHigh

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11,883

dont

Last edited by aseHigh; 04-27-2017 at 08:52 AM. Reason: didnt read OP

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04-28-2017 , 03:59 AM

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ORLY???

adept

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 946

Rebuy is not the same as re-entry. If its re-entry, you definitely don't have action. If its rebuy I could make a strong case that you do have action (even though its very unusual to invest a fixed $ amount in a rebuy tournament).

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04-29-2017 , 11:32 AM

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LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by ORLY???

If its rebuy I could make a strong case that you do have action.

Go on then.

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04-29-2017 , 04:40 PM

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WharfRat1976

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 199

You either staked him or you did not stake him. Rebuys/Rentrys included. 50% for 50%.

It's not too complex.

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05-04-2017 , 08:08 PM

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floattheboat

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 187

Re-entry:

$1k, $500 staked from friend for 50% of profit. Brick.
$1k, new entry, no stake, 100% for player.

Rebuy:

$1k, $500 staked from friend for 50% of profit. Immediate rebuy for double stack, $2k total. Friend now owns 25%.

Rebuy:

$1k, $500 staked from friend for 50% of profit. Brick.
Rebuy $1k. Ambiguous.

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