And to think all these years I thought Moneymakers salary was more then a 1K ticket.
Sure publicity is good for the game but as u mentioned it's good for Pstars as well. Therefore they should pay for this publicity.

Yes we all can agree that the compensation is joke and really just an attempted token gesture.

Online differs from live like that you know. This is why we play with a userid and not our real name and why we don't have to use our picture as avatar. PokerStars even used that at a promo ad "we are poker" with a guy wearing a horse mask or sth (ie. anonymity behind the screen).

Now let's address the argument "poker would benefit from a face of wcoop winner". What type of new recreational players do you think you would attract? I'm sure someone with a 100K/year job who can afford a 5K buy-in, would be thrilled to get "life-changing money" of 150-200K for a 7th place finish and have his name over the internet for his family and colleagues to know that he's "gambling" $5,000 at some online poker site. Recreationals who can actually afford this event would be much more off-put by the publicity rather than attracted by it imo.

Maratik was the online "moneymaker" last year, qualifying via fpp steps. Are you saying that poker didn't get the proper boost because we don't know how he looks?!

btw, i'd like to quote steve's previous post on this
..and call it total BS! looking back at the previews wcoop MEs (at least the last five i cared to check) you didn't have just a userid. Fullnames of the winners were included at the articles with a small backround story and interview.
So what's with the T&C's really? i guess it was too much hassle for you getting these interviews, so better make it mandatory for everyone, right? Or maybe the interviews weren't as long as you'd like them to be? Or maybe you just have to have a photo/video as well?

An idea for people who would normally play the WCOOP ME but will be sitting this one out - consider staking 5 people for the main event second chance (1000+50), or consider staking one good player in the Sunday 2K event on September 21st, both Super Tuesday events, and the main event second chance. Or buy pieces of people in the marketplace with those funds.

Turn this clear negative into a potential positive.

what

What surprises me is that I was sure in 2014 that 95%+ of reg's real name was public information already.

Pretty sure a lot of Russians knew who he was anyway. Nothing happened.

Pretty big difference between being known on 2+2 and having your info in a TV commercial.

What I'm saying is his info was widely available if any unsavoury characters wanted it.

There's a difference in information being "possible" to get, and shoving it right in front of the "unsavory characters'" eyes.

roscoe91 have some valid points also.

as I said in the WCOOP schedule thread already I know at least 30-40 guys from my Skype list that will be skipping the event due to the lousy terms including myself. Wouldn't be a bad idea to skip the whole WCOOP series and start a strike so you guys get your **** together and stop killing poker for the people who make you the most $ through rakeback.

i think its great to have a name and a face with the online screenname of the WCOOP Main winner.
But only the winner, dont say kees verheij, an 58 year old from the netherlands won 80k finishing 9th in the main etc. who cares.

I will only ever play these events under other peoples sns because of this.

Skipping this year, not happy with those rules...

I wasn't going to play anyways, haven't got the bankroll/skills/balls to play it but giving my 2 cents anyways.

The problem I see is that this probably isn't the end of this T&C pop-up while registering a big event.

I don't want to jump to any "theories" but now that Amaya bought Rational Group, they'd want to promote their Poker Room firstly in the US, when the new PS client goes live in whichever state, and secondly in they're up and coming casino & sports betting.

Just imagine for a sec a huge sign with the winner's face on a billboard saying:

"Pokerstars: Where you can have the Million Dollar payday from your couch!
Bet in our Casino and Sports book now! "


As I was saying, this will not be the end of this pop-up, and I can bet any(OK, not any, just some) money that within 2015 we will see at least 2 more of those, not including WCOOP 2015 ME.

When people think of Poker, they think of either dirty,shady(not judging at all, done it myself :P ) gamblers in smoke-filled dark rooms with a single light, the winner of this year's WSOP and One Drop(3 cheers for M1st3rGr33n13 or how ever his ID is spelled) OR they think of Dan Bilzerian, but that's just a one-off.

Pokerstars will want to promote the 2nd and the 3rd image as hard as they can to build more revenue but at a much larger audience, since it will include the online players as well and these are(I think :O ) more than the live ones(also blogs, news websites and wherever they can post an ad or an interview).

These are the reasons that IMHO PS wants to use this info for, and will possibly do it anyway because, lets face it, we lot are a small % of their revenue and once they expand to Casino & the Sportsbook, we will be even less.

Think of it as "a small cost for a human to pay(his account, name, face etc. revealed forever), a big-ish impact on the growing poker(stars) community".

I sincerely hope that I am wrong, otherwise

peace out

Think about it this way: if an amateur would win it, And stars putting millions on promoting it big..that could really create another boom and blow up online poker popularity....Wouldnt that be great?

How about we just solve this by letting me win the WCOOP ME so they can put my face on stuff, it's a price i'm willing to pay

What stars should do is sponsor the person who wins it so the winner gets something back from all the rake they are making on his name/face, this would also encourage alot of people to play.

That's actually a great idea, or even not specific to WCOOP it would be great to have a tournament or series where the winner is awarded a year's sponsorship by Stars, similar to the passport idea but with a Stars pro deal for a year, buy-ins for some live events, salary etc.

Could work nicely as a promo for micromillions or scoop low or something

So what's the line of actual players who don't play because of the t and cs?

I think around 95

think if anyone has ever had any decent live success n has had their face/name out there they'll play.

I'll take the under on 95

That said, players should be able to opt out of having their real ID exposed if they turn down the free tickets etc

Are you saying that's what you think Stars should do, or that's what you thing Stars will do?

If you think that's what Stars will do, then you're giving Stars wayyyy too much credit. Just look at the original wording of the agreement. They were going to give you NOTHING in exchange for your identity being used, etc. etc.

So now that they are giving you something, you think they'll let you off the hook if you turn that something down?

wow

... reading comprehension I even used the exact words 'should do' not 'think they will do'