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08-02-2015 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
people load up $100 to put into the Sunday Million rather than betting on Manchester United to win a game on the weekend.
Moral of the story is they lose money either way.

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08-02-2015 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CitizenPoker
What we have described here is a market place for winrate illumination. Also what is special about new emerging technology (ie "ethereum smart contracts), you could use algorithms and a reputation system to code software that would allow secure and trustless participation, WITHOUT a particular site needing to sign off, approve, develop, or integrate this idea.
In many ways, I don't think that that will be "trustless".
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08-02-2015 , 10:11 PM
It's surely a good idea and the biggest benefit would be removing all hassles from the selling/refunds part but for all those who think this is easily doable by stars....it's actually not......it would be a technical nightmare considering say cancellations/WL/unreg etc etc, the money handling would be easy tho.... but for everything else the reward vs effort won't make it attractive for stars to get into this.....

What could maybe happen more easily is if somehow stars can agree in some form to help with looking into disputes and scammers........if a person is at risk to be banned for life and accounts frozen, that would surely see a drop in the scams for sure....
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08-03-2015 , 05:23 PM
Would absolutely love this

I for one could get so much use out of this since I've never sold % and don't care about markup or anything but would just love to be able to play the majors every sunday with like 50% of myself without going through the hassle of sending etc
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08-04-2015 , 02:10 AM
stars would probably be concerned it takes away some of their casino action, people investing and having a 'gamble'
great idea though , would be awesome if they implemented it
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08-04-2015 , 02:48 AM
I would bet my mother that this will never happen in a million years. Unfortunately these are one of those "Omg this would be so amazing" ideas us poker players think about but will never happen because it does not benefit the poker site as much as you think it does. Could you imagine a poker site run by poker players? I mean FTP was pretty awesome in that sense excluding the whole stealing your money to buy lobsters and all that.

Poker is run by wall street types now, Stars and 888 are our options now and both are run to produce the highest ROI to investors. This is just the way poker ( or online gaming..) is today. I don't understand how poker players think that it is of a poker site's best interest to return the highest ROI to players and not the site itself. Serious entitlement.
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08-04-2015 , 03:33 PM
this idea was already discussed with stars in 2012, led by none other than shaun****ingdeeb

i feel they were very receptive to the idea at the time (what's not to like about it ? ). it's a shame online poker can't exist in a stateless manner
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08-05-2015 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by H0LDiT
stars would probably be concerned it takes away some of their casino action, people investing and having a 'gamble'
great idea though , would be awesome if they implemented it
yeah only way stars would implement this is if they could rake the staking part pretty hard
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08-06-2015 , 11:53 AM
great idea too bad Amaya won't give a ****
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08-06-2015 , 12:38 PM
great idea! sad to know that it will take 10 years to be implemented, and online poker will be dead by then
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08-07-2015 , 10:48 AM
Pokerstars would only do it if for example you sell 10% and only 9% gets paid out to the buyers
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08-07-2015 , 11:40 AM
Why? They generate rake from people playing in tourbamebtS they wouldn't have done. They are taking 10%!!!
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08-07-2015 , 02:37 PM
sounds good, so amayastars will most likely not do it.
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08-07-2015 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Why? They generate rake from people playing in tourbamebtS they wouldn't have done. They are taking 10%!!!
Like mentioned earlier, what makes you think they won't spend those money on spins, sngs, cash and small stakes tournies?
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08-07-2015 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Why? They generate rake from people playing in tourbamebtS they wouldn't have done. They are taking 10%!!!
if you follow this logic stars also would not rake satellites... but they do, why? because they cannnn
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08-09-2015 , 07:56 AM
will stars take their 5% when the stake is placed or 5% out of the winnings?(or x% w/e)

like bookmakers used to do in the uk, u paid the tax when u place ur bet or the govt used to take it out of ur winnings
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08-11-2015 , 09:15 PM
I have been a member for 8 or 9 years and although I visit the site a lot I literally only have a handful of posts. However this idea is so good I had to reply. I'm a guy who loves poker but very often don't have time to play. In fact I haven't played online in a couple of months. But for someone like me this would be great. I could literally see myself using this on a daily basis. Hope stars gives this idea strong consideration
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08-15-2015 , 10:11 PM
Wow, this is a great idea. Not sure if it's ever going to happen but sure looks like a win/win
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08-15-2015 , 11:36 PM
very bad idea as others mentioned. some of the fish will use $ they would have used to play instead to buy % of players who will most likely be better than they are.
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08-16-2015 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by the sauce man
very bad idea as others mentioned. some of the fish will use $ they would have used to play instead to buy % of players who will most likely be better than they are.
Exploit that by unregging and buying a piece of a better player than you, obv
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08-17-2015 , 11:21 AM
good thing this terrible idea will never happen
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02-17-2017 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Ok I'm a few beers deep but this makes lots of sense to me, hopefully it does tomorrow morning too.

Problem

So there are a lot of people who want to play higher buy in tournaments who can't because of bankroll

It's very inconvenient for players to have people buy $1 of their action and have to spend tonnes of time sending people money back

There are tonnes of people unjustifiably charging ridiculous markup

There are a lot of people around the world who enjoy railing and having a small piece of somebody could be great

There are tonnes of people scared to stake because of the chance of being scammed by a random

Guarantees are decreasing every week on PokerStars

Stars make money every time somebody clicks "register" in a tournament lobby.

Solution

PokerStars have a lobby within the lobby of people who want to play the tournament.

You can simply buy in increments of 1% of the player, the player can take whatever % of himself he wants. None of this is public ally disclosed, nobody knows who has what % of who. Once he has sold enough to play the tournament he is automatically registered.

Example

I want to play the 50k online tournament, I put myself in the semi lobby, people buy 1%snof me and have a sweat in a huge tournament, there is no chance I can scan as stars acts as an escrow automatically shipping the funds back and I don't have to worry about spending hours sending people back refunds.

Stars makes the rake I pay in the tournament.

This could happen at all stakes, even fish could put up a request to be stakes in the big 11 without being or feeling ridiculed, lots of people may be happy to invest 0.50 -> 11 in a random for a sweat.


Seems huge win win.

Thoughts?

Looks like they took your idea..


https://www.ppipoker.net/game-features/


https://contents.good-game-network.c.../en/?tz=+00:00
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02-17-2017 , 05:47 AM
Well it's a good idea so I guess it was just a matter of time before someone picked it up.
That site looks pretty cool as well, might take a look!
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02-17-2017 , 01:37 PM
Nice.

Some of the other ideas I posted as threads like the increasing guarantees if they hit week on week were implemented too.

Hope this works out.
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02-18-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by the sauce man
very bad idea as others mentioned. some of the fish will use $ they would have used to play instead to buy % of players who will most likely be better than they are.
Totally disagree. People play cause they like the feeling to get dealt cards, bluffing, potentially winning etc.
Millions of people gamble everyday in casinos, obviously -ev, do you think if someone offered to increase the ev by 1% but be played by another person, you think they will accept? I think obv not, cause people like to gamboool themselves! Thats the main reason they are fishes, they won´t approach this logically rather than feel and impulse.
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