Lee Jones is a major pos, 10th anniversary of the sunday million and he's the host they choose LOL be careful what you say about him online he's had peoples accounts frozen because they've talked ****ttt about him..total scumbag

paint obv

Any updates on adding other games ie 90mans to the tournament lobby?

Can you change the Hyper games you have starting at quarter to the hour to the beginning of the hour because if players start a session on the hour then they cant late Reg these

Ridiculous and disgusting. First the rakeback is decreased and then the rake is further increased. Hypers will die even more and rebuys will be gone pretty soon. This ofcourse has been the plan all along, as rebuys were never ever promoted.

I am really hoping that Party will make a few adjustments to their MTT structure and then I will take 75% of my traffic to them. These (silent) announcements (I never got an e-mail) will cost you a lot of rake from regs, gg Stars.

that comment about keeping him out of the mines its nuts! Definitely a POS statement. Never thought I'd say this but Jason Mo seems alot more likable now. Lee Jones' soft, dorky voice had me fooled for awhile. He's actually a massive snobby douche bag

No doubt that Lee Jones is a sweaty ballbag, but that comment about the mine was clearly canary related. So just unfunny rather than racist/malicious.
His joke about totti not a lotti money, or whatever the f00k he wrote, was even worse. I damn near had to punch my own face reading his tripe.

Dont worry about satellites guys, we will have the likes of 10% raked spin&go satellites to make sure SCOOP reaches the guarantee.

May 2016 most profitable month ever for Pokerstars.. and no liquidy after it..

https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/pro...untain-series/

Yaaaay

1k plo 6max rebuys (rofl)

indeed

Sup Luke?

Hey all,

I'd like to provide a bit more information regarding the upcoming changes.

Rebuys


Hyper-Turbos


New pay table

NEWS ITT EVERYBODY

11111111111

I play mtt sngs mostly and some mtt. I dont know much about hypers but i know there is very little edge in those. However to those that play tournaments that has rebuys whether mtts or those 180 man rebuys, is it really that big of a deal they are raking rebuys and adds on? I know the 3.50 rebuys... its 3.19+.31 rake for rebuy and add on. But does that mean less people are going to pay because they have to pay an extra .31 for each rebuy?


Note i play 180 mans and a slight winning player... I do know this affects me but not that that much. Is that bad?


Also, can someone explain why this is really huge? I mean surely this shouldn't be that big of a deal right for the rebuys? Now if you play say higher stakes, i can see it being a hit on your bottom line. But for me even though i play lot of 180 mans that include 3.50 rebuys, yes it adds up when i add all those i play. But would this mean many players not play these due to it? Im sure recs wouldnt even notice it.


The other thing i wanted to ask is someone said 3x sats will be no more. Can someone explain this? So basically regs will not play these or have less incentive to rebuy? For example you have lot of those low stakes sats... which most sats are. Are ppl really not going to play these because of this reason?


I don't know about hypers but i know there is very little edge in those where the rake means a big deal so i can understand that. But aren't the players we taking this too far about the rake on rebuy/addon?


Also i know this sounds a bit foolish of me of saying it. But whenever i play on stars, i always felt like it was a bargain playing touranments there. The rake seemed perfectly fine for mtt. I mean where else can you play tournaments where the rake is that low and you get these good prize pool on stars? No one else. Would appreciate if someone can answer these questions.

This is fine however it is viewed by the intelligent and reasonable player as an increase in effective rake, and so to not be considered detrimental to the game, should be accompanied with a rake % DECREASE, in order to not be an inferior product/service for an increasing cost.

Raking the game harder, under the guise of creating a better game is an irrational mantra that is getting very old.

back in the day 888 started raking rebuys.

But hey, it was only for the 1$ games and hey, it's 888, one of the most expensive sites, so who cares?

And now we get from stars. Oh yeah.
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Effective Rake

for people not getting what this is:

Think of two SNGs. First one is a 1000$+0$ (heck you even get 50$ for entering as a bonus, so negative rake!) with Phil Galfond, Phil Ivey, Phil Hellmuth. A seat is open for you!

2nd one is a 1000$+500$ and your enemies are a baby, a 95yr old man with a florida cap and somehow who clearly doesn't know poker. Like Baazov or the guy from the WarmDeck topic (Jay, Steve, you name it).

Game A: -50$ Rake
Game B: 500$ Rake

now you tell me which one has the higher rake and which one has higher effective rake.
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3.5$R with raked rebuys.

Let's say you play these games, averaging 1 rebuy and no addon. Your ROI could be 10% so for every 3.5$ you put in, you get 0.35$ back. Since you pay ~6.70$ every game, you get 0.67$ every game longterm.
Now all of a sudden, you have to pay 7$ for getting the exact same 0.67$. So instead of turning 6.7$ into 7.37$ you turn 7$ into 7.37$ or as a cliff
your 67cent profit will become a 37cent profit. Yeah, sounds fair.

Now think about what happens if we rake the addon too. Like a 10% player with 1R1A pays 9.88$ for 10.87$ (0.99$ profit). After the changes he pays 10.5$ for 10.87$

how about 1k plo 6max HYPER rebuys? :P

Really, the first update in a month is something we already knew about?

nooooooo

its complete with DISCOUNTS

Are these ****ty min cash structures in all tournaments now or just bigs and hots?

new pay structure is also deceptive misleading rake increase indirectly. wouldn't hate this too much by itself since it is favourable for recreational players (one of like ten things that are..) but with everythimg else it's obv designed to lower edge don't believe any other reason they say

good job davidv

could someone make a graph about the 3xTs? that's the most popular sat format and with an avg 6 rebuys+1addon, the rake increase is effectively 800%.

also this: