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08-17-2017 , 10:06 PM
Now I just hope there will be ****loads of satellites to the bigger buy-in events and this will be perfect for my first WCOOP.
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08-18-2017 , 04:02 AM
Schedule seems decent.

Just need ok GTDs and good structures and rake.

That the above are legitimate concerns is amusing.
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08-18-2017 , 07:42 AM
WCOOP schedule looking good yeah!

But.. I fear winter (aka rake increase) is coming. That would be sad because it would - in the end - hurt Amaya more than anyone else.
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08-18-2017 , 11:29 AM
Midstakes Series looks nice

But I seriously can't imagine any other reason to publish a .pdf of the series with gtds left out, than that those have been butchered big time.
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08-18-2017 , 01:18 PM
Hey all,

Just a couple more WCOOP notes while I'm going through the schedule:
  • The satellite offering from Monday will be sparse. We want as many players as possible to be aware of the $55 daily satellite with $5,200 added before we start adding satellites to other Events. There will be a $5.50 On-Demand sat to the daily $55 from launch.
  • I wrote in the blog that structures have been rewritten for the series. I urge you all to take a look and provide feedback! They have been designed to provide the same experience as SCOOP, albeit with different blind structures and level times.
  • We continue to expand the usage of dynamic level times. Please check "Level Time Info" in the Structure tab to see when level times change!
  • Total buy-ins for the Series are nearly identical to last year's Series when you discount the difference between the $102,000 Super High Roller last year and the $25,000 High Roller this year. Also, Progressive KO and Re-Entry are on par with last year's Series in terms of volume.

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Originally Posted by NeA
Now I just hope there will be ****loads of satellites to the bigger buy-in events and this will be perfect for my first WCOOP.
What do you want to see? Did you play SCOOP satellites? There wasn't a lot of feedback here about SCOOP satellites (typically a good sign) and performance year-on-year was strong, but if you have satellite suggestions, now is the time!

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Originally Posted by hapunkt
Midstakes Series looks nice

But I seriously can't imagine any other reason to publish a .pdf of the series with gtds left out, than that those have been butchered big time.
For as long as I can remember, guarantees have never appeared on early versions of *COOP schedules. They are usually revealed when the tournaments hit the lobby.
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08-18-2017 , 02:39 PM
What about some nice regular speed STT satelites? Forget about the 10 years old structure that looks like 1500 starting stacks, huge blind jumps and antes starting at 50/100 or whatever. No one likes those.
Give us something like this: 3k starting stacks, 10-12 minute levels with small jumps, antes from start, 2-3 places paid. I bet, these would be quite popular, but even if not, what can you lose? You could also run these in a step-style for the higher buyins.
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08-18-2017 , 05:14 PM
SCOOP was absolutely fantastic for satellites. Binked a $215 scoop sunday milly ticket for $2.20, 3-4 $27 tickets, 2-3 $11 tickets and almost binked a $1050 ticket. Satellites are great for upcoming players who aren't rolled for the bigger events, would be great to see similar opportunities again.

SCOOP satellites were already available weeks prior to the event so it can't be matched this time but may be something to note for the future.
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08-18-2017 , 06:31 PM
scoop 2017 satellite offering was the best for any series I can remember (which should be a decent amount of years).
So keep offering the pink mega sats with the one change that I'd love to see them in two different buy ins.
For a 215$ Wcoop Event this could be a 5$ MEGA sat and a 22$ one
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08-18-2017 , 06:52 PM
Don't understand why there's no 10k HR NLH. Always gets huge turnout. The demand for a 10k HR and 25k SHR (clearly the right price point for a SHR) is definitely there. Party is having a 10k and 25k and will have great turnouts. Just don't get why it got scrapped.
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08-18-2017 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dpeters17
Don't understand why there's no 10k HR NLH. Always gets huge turnout. The demand for a 10k HR and 25k SHR (clearly the right price point for a SHR) is definitely there. Party is having a 10k and 25k and will have great turnouts. Just don't get why it got scrapped.
+1. 10k last year worked pretty well imo
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08-19-2017 , 12:07 AM
Nlhe phase event?
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08-19-2017 , 05:31 AM
Seems to be HORSE phase only this year which is a bit surprising.
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08-19-2017 , 08:19 AM
Ye no phase is a little disappointing those are massive always
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08-19-2017 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Hey all,

Just a couple more WCOOP notes while I'm going through the schedule:
  • The satellite offering from Monday will be sparse. We want as many players as possible to be aware of the $55 daily satellite with $5,200 added before we start adding satellites to other Events. There will be a $5.50 On-Demand sat to the daily $55 from launch.
  • I wrote in the blog that structures have been rewritten for the series. I urge you all to take a look and provide feedback! They have been designed to provide the same experience as SCOOP, albeit with different blind structures and level times.
  • We continue to expand the usage of dynamic level times. Please check "Level Time Info" in the Structure tab to see when level times change!
  • Total buy-ins for the Series are nearly identical to last year's Series when you discount the difference between the $102,000 Super High Roller last year and the $25,000 High Roller this year. Also, Progressive KO and Re-Entry are on par with last year's Series in terms of volume.



What do you want to see? Did you play SCOOP satellites? There wasn't a lot of feedback here about SCOOP satellites (typically a good sign) and performance year-on-year was strong, but if you have satellite suggestions, now is the time!



For as long as I can remember, guarantees have never appeared on early versions of *COOP schedules. They are usually revealed when the tournaments hit the lobby.
Regarding satelittes for Main Event, 55 109 215 reentry should be fine
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08-19-2017 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Ye no phase is a little disappointing those are massive always
Seems wierd not to have them given how successful they gave been in past series
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08-19-2017 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Seems wierd not to have them given how successful they gave been in past series
i hope they read our feedback and have one next year
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08-19-2017 , 09:49 AM
Why do you guys like these phase tournaments during series so much when every single reg makes it to day 2, which makes them run out much tougher than your average event?
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08-19-2017 , 11:55 AM
not a single o8 5card o8 or courchevel h/l with a ko
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08-19-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Erik_212
Why do you guys like these phase tournaments during series so much when every single reg makes it to day 2, which makes them run out much tougher than your average event?
+1 to the phases

in my experiences the phase1 are usually super soft with players playing super loose, so its a soft tourney with a huge prize thats why most players like i think
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08-19-2017 , 04:44 PM
Sure all the regs make it to day 2. But so do thousands of bad players
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08-20-2017 , 09:00 AM
Add $22 Mini Sunday Warmup?
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08-20-2017 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by clapclap
What about some nice regular speed STT satelites? Forget about the 10 years old structure that looks like 1500 starting stacks, huge blind jumps and antes starting at 50/100 or whatever. No one likes those.
Give us something like this: 3k starting stacks, 10-12 minute levels with small jumps, antes from start, 2-3 places paid. I bet, these would be quite popular, but even if not, what can you lose? You could also run these in a step-style for the higher buyins.
I'll pass this on to our Sit & Go manager, but not before I inject some personal opinion!
  • Our strategy for Sit & Go satellites in SCOOP was to primarily focus on 1-in-3 and 1-in-8 for Sit & Gos, and 1-in-5, 1-in-10, and longer shot satellites in MTTs. The most popular formats for 1-in-3 and 1-in-8 are both hyper-turbo speed.
  • Hyper-turbo satellites allow us to run them further into late registration because of their short duration.
  • Players like hyper-turbo satellites and have an expectation for them to be available.

The above are reasons why we'll likely always lean toward offering faster Sit & Go satellites, but I'll request that he finds a spot to test something deeper.

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Originally Posted by NeA
SCOOP was absolutely fantastic for satellites. Binked a $215 scoop sunday milly ticket for $2.20, 3-4 $27 tickets, 2-3 $11 tickets and almost binked a $1050 ticket. Satellites are great for upcoming players who aren't rolled for the bigger events, would be great to see similar opportunities again.

SCOOP satellites were already available weeks prior to the event so it can't be matched this time but may be something to note for the future.
My philosophy for satellites is to keep the offering simple. This results in a higher average guarantee and schedules that are easier for novice players to understand. I think we're aligned here!

Satellites for the Main Events will be available from launch tomorrow, but like I said, it will be a sparse offering so the focus is on the fact that we're punting off $150K+ worth of Main Event seats in daily satellites over the course of the Series.

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Originally Posted by travisohc
scoop 2017 satellite offering was the best for any series I can remember (which should be a decent amount of years).
So keep offering the pink mega sats with the one change that I'd love to see them in two different buy ins.
For a 215$ Wcoop Event this could be a 5$ MEGA sat and a 22$ one
We'll have the same setup with Megas, Deadlines, and Last Chance Hypers. I'll ask the team what they think of having two Megas, but my intuition leans towards offering one with a bigger guarantee. We'll also run Sit & Go satellites to the single Mega, so players with smaller bankrolls will have the opportunity to join. Additionally, the structure for Last Chance Hypers will be updated to be a bit deeper than it was in SCOOP.

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Originally Posted by dpeters17
Don't understand why there's no 10k HR NLH. Always gets huge turnout. The demand for a 10k HR and 25k SHR (clearly the right price point for a SHR) is definitely there. Party is having a 10k and 25k and will have great turnouts. Just don't get why it got scrapped.
We're focusing a lot of attention and resources on the $5,200 Main Event and $25K this year. If we don't see much of an increase in participation, I think it would make sense to bring back some higher stakes Events. If we see a lot of success this year compared to years prior, well we'll have to consider that for our next big Series. You're right that the $10K last year did just fine ($3.6M), but it also had 37 players from satellites. I'd much rather take that $370K and put 15 players into the $25K. If you have any idea for $25K satellites, please let us know.

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Originally Posted by the sauce man
Nlhe phase event?
This was decided before I even drafted the first version of the schedule.

Last year, the Phase Events were both $109. I don't know the impetus for the $109 buy-in, but I imagine it was to create a more accessible price point for those who couldn't afford bigger WCOOP Events. Since it was a Phase, it also created a big enough prize pool that regular players would play on the side. This year, however, we have WCOOP Low. We'll have a variety of mid-stakes buy-ins and I don't want to take focus away from that.

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Originally Posted by Afteryastack
Seems to be HORSE phase only this year which is a bit surprising.
Event 58 is also HORSE. The buy-ins are $2,100 for High and $109 for Low.

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Originally Posted by Cheever L.C
Regarding satelittes for Main Event, 55 109 215 reentry should be fine
Yep, this is approximately what I was thinking as well. It is aligned with tickets we'll be awarding in Spin & Gos, so it will create some real liquidity.

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Originally Posted by whiskylover
not a single o8 5card o8 or courchevel h/l with a ko
Sorry, not this time. When I read this thread in preparation for the next Series, I'll read this bit of feedback again!
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08-20-2017 , 11:10 AM
Can we get that mini Sunday Rebuy I mentioned a while ago after WCOOP? Also, what speaks against a mini warm-up?
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08-20-2017 , 11:52 AM
Mini warmup is double deuce thats what I recall Luke saying.

Also Luke my HORSE phase comment wasn't regarding the lack of HORSE - I dont even play it. I was saying the only phase is HORSE. But youve explained why theres no NLHE phase and I would for sure take WCOOP low over a phase, so it's cool.
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08-20-2017 , 05:02 PM
I just noticed some satellites have a small bounty. I think this is great as it dramatically improve the bubble play, which was rather boring.
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